Mini 1451: A Memory of Light (Game Over)


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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 2:53 pm

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milkshake 4
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Ghostlin 2
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 3:02 pm

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Ghostlin, if you mean that they're sucking up to me and I suspect them, well, yes, that's true, but I haven't decided if it's genuine or not. It's something scum might do to town that enters the game strong and it's also something town might do with a town read, so...
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 3:02 pm

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Please tell me what you saw, Ghostlin.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 3:45 pm

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In post 226, Amrun wrote:Ghostlin, if you mean that they're sucking up to me and I suspect them, well, yes, that's true, but I haven't decided if it's genuine or not. It's something scum might do to town that enters the game strong and it's also something town might do with a town read, so...
That was it. The kind of sucking up+the not a defense.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 4:13 pm

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In post 228, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 226, Amrun wrote:Ghostlin, if you mean that they're sucking up to me and I suspect them, well, yes, that's true, but I haven't decided if it's genuine or not. It's something scum might do to town that enters the game strong and it's also something town might do with a town read, so...
That was it. The kind of sucking up+the not a defense.
I am usually pretty vocal about my town reads. orcinus is not so free with them.

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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 4:22 pm

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Summarize your opinion of Selkies for me, Ghostlin.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 4:48 pm

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Amrun,

You have talked a fair bit about us, but I can't find anything you've actually asked us about.

If we are that big of a concern, why aren't you trying to engage?

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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:00 pm

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I'm more concerned with Ghostlin atm, and I was waiting for you to give some semblance of reply to my post that featured you, which you have so far failed to do.

And it is my experience that engaging with disorganized hydra such as yourself is fairly unproductive. That being said, when the time is right, I will engage as I see fit.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:04 pm

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In post 216, sword_of_omens wrote:on my phone...
coming back from fibishing up my trip...

hey Miss Des:
how do you go from this:
MsDes wrote:I actually like Omens post, it has good questions and I feel that his vote is one of the few on the wagon that has some merit
to this:
MsDes wrote:I'll talk to HD about where to place our vote, but right now my favorite people to vote are Ghost, Demon,
and SoO
with no in between?
Don't remember, but it wouldn't be the first time I had a sudden change in opinion on my scum-spects, you specifically :P

Nero, I have a problem because you called them out specifically while ignoring everyone else who was lurking in the game, some with less posts than Cops IIRC. It's strange that you're selective in who to call out on lurking.

I had even forgotten that Beli was in this game, which isn't good :T
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:06 pm

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I did actually ask you a question that you didn't answer, though.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:07 pm

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In post 232, Amrun wrote:I'm more concerned with Ghostlin atm, and I was waiting for you to give some semblance of reply to my post that featured you, which you have so far failed to do.

And it is my experience that engaging with disorganized hydra such as yourself is fairly unproductive. That being said, when the time is right, I will engage as I see fit.
I read your post. For the most part you were asking about orcinus' posts. I believe I did say something about the post of mine that you pointed up. orcinus should be posting in this thread later today. I've told him he'll find some of Nero Cain's posts interesting. IMO Cain is doing exactly what he accuses me of doing. He's sucking up to you.

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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:08 pm

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In post 235, fferyllt wrote:
In post 232, Amrun wrote:I'm more concerned with Ghostlin atm, and I was waiting for you to give some semblance of reply to my post that featured you, which you have so far failed to do.

And it is my experience that engaging with disorganized hydra such as yourself is fairly unproductive. That being said, when the time is right, I will engage as I see fit.
I read your post. For the most part you were asking about orcinus' posts. I believe I did say something about the post of mine that you pointed up. orcinus should be posting in this thread later today. I've told him he'll find some of Nero Cain's posts interesting. IMO Cain is doing exactly what he accuses me of doing. He's sucking up to you.

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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:09 pm

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Oh, oh wait, now I remember

Swords, I initially liked your reason because it was the most detailed on of those on the Milkshake wagon and I had glazed through it. there are nearly 2 pages of between those two posts you have stated and a few people have made good points on you as well, which caused me to reconsider. That, and I had taken a closer look at that post and realized it wasn't as good as I had originally thought

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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:13 pm

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and by above, I mean 233, lotta ninja posts...
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:15 pm

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In post 236, Selkies wrote:IMO Cain is doing exactly what he accuses me of doing. He's sucking up to you.
I accused you of sucking up to Amrun? no. I think I rather kill this today instead of Milkshake. Make it so guys.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:17 pm

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In post 237, Miss Destroyer wrote:Swords, I initially liked your reason because it was the most detailed on of those on the Milkshake wagon
except that it was just a bunch of the same reasoning that had already been pointed out.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:25 pm

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In post 239, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 236, Selkies wrote:IMO Cain is doing exactly what he accuses me of doing. He's sucking up to you.
I accused you of sucking up to Amrun? no. I think I rather kill this today instead of Milkshake. Make it so guys.
Apologies. I got you confused with Ghostlin.

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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:26 pm

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In post 241, fferyllt wrote:
In post 239, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 236, Selkies wrote:IMO Cain is doing exactly what he accuses me of doing. He's sucking up to you.
I accused you of sucking up to Amrun? no. I think I rather kill this today instead of Milkshake. Make it so guys.
Apologies. I got you confused with Ghostlin.

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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:29 pm

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In post 223, Amrun wrote:Why do you think milk and selk are grouped together? I find that unlikely, though not impossible.
I think they're both independently scummy and since I know we don't have two scum teams and its not confirmed if we have an sk or not so it does make me want to put them together. I mean the whole "Nero votes Selk, Milk tried to get Nero to unvote Selk" seems a lil' weird but maybe you're right and its just a big coincidence.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:30 pm

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Yes... Which is part of the reason why I reconsidered my thoughts on him Nero...

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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:31 pm

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In post 244, Ms Marangal wrote:Yes... Which is part of the reason why I reconsidered my thoughts on him Nero...

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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 5:34 pm

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I'm sorry it's contagious. I've been terrible today.

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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Thu May 16, 2013 10:50 pm

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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 2:50 am

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In post 184, Amrun wrote:
In post 80, Nero Cain wrote::facepalm:

I'll always be wary of Matt. Him lying/gambiting/reaction fishing is null but I'd strongly consider his lynch in a few days if we seem to not be hitting on scum. My vote is on Selk and yea it was RVS.
I wouldn't consider a Selk lynch at all.
I haven't found anything to yell at yet hence why I'm sitting on my RVS.
I interpreted that as a town read, as only people I read as town are people I "wouldn't consider a lynch at all."
In post 185, Nero Cain wrote:No. I had no reason to suspect Selk yet. They weren't a "town" read but they weren't a scum read and I try to lynch my scum reads and not my null reads.
No, that's not how that post works. When you say you wouldn't consider somebody's lynch at all, you imply that you wouldn't consider them being scum (assuming you want to lynch scum).

Forced misrepresentation of own post to make your OMGUS on us seem more natural. Pretty sure scum intentions.
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 2:53 am

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In post 181, Amrun wrote:This post pinged my scumdar hard. Demon is right on the money that Selkies is saying a lot without having any firm opinions, and this post (while it gets points for being unapologetic about it) only makes matters worse.

Matt is null, but I'm voting him while criticizing others for not voting scum reads, "but I think we can figure him out."

Tell me, HOW is making a vote and then declaring that you only read him as null going to help you "figure him out?" You haven't engaged Matt in any way. You are NOT trying to figure him out.

And early image consciousness.

Yup, definitely liking Selkie for scum at this point.
What firm opinions do you want me to have on like page 3

That's why I throw my vote around and see what sticks. To establish those firm opinions.

In retrospect, my answer to that question probably wasn't optimal wrt scumhunting or determining Matt's alliance. But I was asked it straight up by a person who was scumreading me, so I thought it best to be honest in that situation.

Anyways, you've shown it to be bad town play, but not scummy. Where's the scum intention?
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