Open 493 - Jungle Republic. (Game Over - Werewolf Victory)

[Princess Proton]

VOTE: Klick

Well. THAT was easy. Klick is the other werewolf. Now we just have to find the mafia goons.

[Klick]

VOTE: Klick

[Princess Proton]

^Good Voting^

[zabriel]

VC 2.04

Autti (Goodmorning, Syryana) - L-2
Egg (Bulba)

Klick (Egg, Bacde, TNE, DBK, Princess, Klick) - lynched

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Please stand by.

[zabriel]

Spurred on by their successful werewolf hunt, the town surrounded Klick, fully confident that they had caught the remaining wolf. Sensing that the crowd would not see reason, Klick calmly reached into his pocket and pulled out a small capsule. Before the crowd realized what was going on, Klick had bitten into the pill, and moments later lay dead on the ground with the town in a circle around his body.

A previously unnoticed tattoo on his upper arm revealed his allegiance to the Mafia.

Mafia Goon Klick

has been lynched. Night 2 will end in (expired on 2013-05-16 19:00:00).

[zabriel]

He knew they were supposed to stay inside and wait for the all-clear. The werewolves would thin out the town, the town would eventually catch the remaining wolf, and then they'd move in and take control of the town. He just wanted to see if he could catch a glimpse, anything that could give them an advantage.

In the distance he saw somebody moving. He crouched low, attempting to make himself as small as possible to avoid detection. As the figure came closer, the identity of the remaining werewolf dawned on him. Unfortunately for him, he would never get to tell anybody.

Werewolves have a very good sense of smell.

Mafia Goon -Does Bo Know - Killed Night 2

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2013-05-30 23:00:00). With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

[goodmorning]

What in the actual fuck.

Also

V/LA. I return Tuesday.

[Bulbazak]

Well, this game just got 10 times easier. Egg is the last werewolf. Princess is the last mafia. We lynch Egg today, Princess tomorrow, and bam, town wins.

[Bulbazak]

Vote Egg

Almost forgot...

[Mac]

Why is Egg wolf and Princess mafia?

Also surprised cos I had Bo pegged as the werewolf or town.

[thenewearth]

I can buy the Egg thing.

But bulba would be my mafia lynch

[Bacde]

[Bacde]

I'm at bulb for last mafia and princess for last werewolf

what do you guys think?

[thenewearth]

Bulb, yes

[Egg]

It's bulb and thene.

vote bulb

Bulb, tell me why I would have shot bo if I was werewolf.

[Princess Proton]

Why is Egg wolf and Princess mafia?

This?

[Mac]

Here's a fucking thought, chaps. How about we explain why it's person X and person Y, instead of just stating it's them? Or else we are going nowhere today.

[thenewearth]

and wait... I just realized.

Did you guys lynch klick as a werewolf lynch or as an actual scum lynch?

[Egg]

Here's a fucking thought, chaps. How about we explain why it's person X and person Y, instead of just stating it's them? Or else we are going nowhere today.

I gave reasons for both earlier in the game. The only thing that has changed is that thene was being coached in thread by Bo and Bo has now flipped scum.

I've been wrestling with this a bit in my head all morning. I'm more sure thene is scum than I am with bulb. However, as much as I didn't want to deal with "which scum group should we lynch?", I'm confident in thene being mafia rather than werewolf. And yes, werewolves can and should shoot mafia. And yes, they did so last night. However, with one mafia left, their odds of doing so are much less now. Also, we don't know if the Bo shot was an attempt at mafia or not because some people had him as town. I think it's better to try to eliminate the NK now.

[Princess Proton]

Did you guys lynch klick as a werewolf lynch or as an actual scum lynch?

I lynched him thinking he was the other werewolf. My goal was to take out one killing faction if at all possible. He was anti-Town so it didn't really matter to me as Town. I knew there was a chance of cross kill but figured the kill was more likely to land on Town. So I was hunting the other wolf. At this point my understanding is that there is one wolf and one mafia in the game. So, as long as we lynch anti-Town today we reduce the number of night kills by one tonight thus lowering the chance of another Town dying.

Why does it matter, TNE? For reads?

[Princess Proton]

The case on Mac isn't very concrete (I read most of the case as RVS instead of actual scum tells), plus Mac has been pretty townie to me the whole game.

This indicates to me that Mac is not the last werewolf. Mac would want to keep Bo around to defend him.

Bulb, let's be real, you're not getting your Egg lynch today. No one else has given him a large scumread.

Reason he's Mafia and not Wolf: he's avidly hunting for the wolf. Well, firstly, it's not unlike Bulb to try to abolish a NK before focusing on Mafia (ANY Nightless is better than something with a NK), because I know that Bulb is the type of player willing to do anything to make his wincon easier.

Maybe defending Egg? I have to keep reading.

If Bulb votes Autti I'll switch back to Autti. Still standing by whichever wagon is bigger from Klick/Autti I'll be on.

Possible coaching Bulb? In either case, it likely clears Autti as last Mafia.

This is what I have so far.

[Bacde]

Here's a fucking thought, chaps. How about we explain why it's person X and person Y, instead of just stating it's them? Or else we are going nowhere today.

So...

bulb because he kept trying to keep me from lynching klick yesterday

I was like "we should lynch klick and here's the reason why"

and he was all like "thats not a good reason, why not lynch mac?"

and I'm like "no mac is town, we lynch klick"

and he goes "why not mac? or why not anyone else who isn't klick? Also DBK is a townread of mine"

And I think Princess is likely the last werewolf:

1) Because I think Princess is scum (residual from Autti)
2) She randomly said "Klick is the last werewolf" which is weird because I've been calling him as mafia for a while now (and I'm pretty sure a couple other people have too), so I'm not certain how she'd arrive at that conclusion by rereading unless she was trying to force a not-werewolf tell (which would make her a werewolf)
3) She seemed motivated to lynch Klick by me saying that she might get lynched as a compromise which is survivalistic which tends to be scummy

[Princess Proton]

Your case on Bulb is reasonable.

Your case on me is awful.

1. "Survivalistic is scummy" is a bogus tell people create to make someone look scummy. I don't know why you had Autti as scum. I don't care. I'm not Autti and I'm Town. Also, I helped lynch a non Town as my very first vote. That buys me at least one opportunity to be wrong. So stop tunneling on me because of the former occupant of this slot. Otherwise, I will have to show you all the examples of Town playing "survivalistic" and I'm really too lazy to show you that it is equally likely to come from either alignment. Finally, I wasn't playing survivalistic. I came in and voted my scum read. It was that simple.

2. There was nothing "random" about calling Klick the last werewolf. I saw a relational tell between Klick and FBN. FBN had 4 posts in a row [via ISO] beginning with 806 where he swears up and down that Klick is mafia. Sounded like a bus attempt.

3. Finally, you didn't motivate anything. I came in. I read. I voted.

[Bacde]

Ok what about this piece of evidence:

I sincerely doubt that DBK was killed to purposely take out a mafia. That doesn't seem like optimal scum play to me--the werewolf should have been aiming for town until maybe tonight or the night after (and still try to lynch mafia)

But when I look at DBK's top two scumreads (or stated scumreads) he lists Autti and Klick

In fact, he was tunneling on Autti pretty much all of yesterday

[Bacde]

Another reason I doubt that the werewolf tried to take out mafia last night--most people had DBK as town. I was one of the only few who expressed reservations about his alignment