NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

Seanald · Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 9:00 am

Original image that was supposed to go with that post above.

mastin2 · Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 9:02 am

Thirty-fifth Votecount

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AKA, the "I feel so ashamed" votecount

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Nachomamma8 - 8 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Slandaar, Desperado, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Amethyst Kitty)

fuzzybutternut - 3 (thezmon221, Cephrir, Oversoul)

Bacde - 2 (Om the Destroyer, Bulbazak)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 2 (Kublai Khan, Thor665)
Red Ryu - 2 (Syryana, ArcAngel9)
Cephrir - 1 (Baby Spice)
ArcAngel9 - 1 (DLG)
Desperado - 1 (Nachomamma8)

Not Voting - 3 (Hanzo_5, EddieFenix, BeautyAndTheBeast)

With

24

players alive, it's

13

to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

Red Ryu is V/LA from Friday, May 17th until Monday, May 20th.
At least half of the Amethyst Kitty hudra is V/LA until Tuesday, May 21st.

DLG has been prodded.

Spoiler: changes from last official votecount

Spoiler: Player Vote History

Spoiler: Voting History

Syryana · Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 9:25 am

In post 1616, Cephrir wrote:Okay, now that AA9 has made a post I can definitely respect, I'll tell. The major difference I noted between her town and scum games was that she tends to play more thoughtfully as town, state more and better reads, and they usually go against the grain of the town. Which is exactly what I just saw. You can be town for a good long while. Whereas scum-AA9 doesn't have as many reads and they tend to not be as well thought out and/or to go with the flow.

Scum with AA9.

In post 1617, Amethyst Kitty wrote:we only have a little over a week and the Nacho wagon took a while to build. Despite the cases being built on him, and despite people calling him out as scum, there are people who are quietly trying to oppose it

Ryu pinged for me earlier too Angel

VOTE: Nacho

I pretty vocally oppose it. Some of his recent posts make me start doubting myself though. Why are you so concerned about a deadline that's over a week away?

In post 1623, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1516, Bacde wrote:Nacho isn't playing to "out his reads" or "find scum" this game, he's manipulating people (and he can do it with one word even as shown w/ the pride post)
Something is off. Oversoul did a retarded "gambit", then was lazy and didn't follow the game, then posted a useless "analysis" post. Then immediately makes a soft-claim about the dangers of vigging him.

Your case on Nachomamma8 is decent. Maybe even lynch worthy. But if he's scum, then where is the scum-led counter-wagon on Oversoul, who has been far scummier?

Either Nachomamma8 is scum with Oversoul, or scum are pushing along the Nachomamma8 wagon to try to get Oversoul to live another day.

I really like this post. Which of your Nacho/OS scenarios do you think is more likely?

In post 1626, Bacde wrote:Although why isn't nacho voting OS anymore?

And why wasn't he explaining why to vote OS to me better?

Them being scum together would actually make sense

plus AA9 looked townier

Why does AA9 look townier?

In post 1643, Nachomamma8 wrote:All while I've been getting wagoned to hell, what has Desperado been doing? Responding to my case on him, not really pushing anything else. His activity is literally linked to mine; he waits for me to post, then he responds. Even the way he's been defending recently is scummy as fuck... all he's doing is trying to get the case on himself to go away by comparing parts of my case to other people. There are tiny little potshots everywhere else, nothing significant. I also like him so casually dismissing DLG's quadpost. He said that he didn't find anything interesting, but he could've easily followed up on the reads that DLG gave in those posts (which included him in his scum list), but instead he said nothing.

Slandaar is also chilling on my wagon scummy as fuck, potshot here, potshot there, empty reads list.

I'm thinking DLG is town because Desp is scummy as fuck and he just sort of lurked out in a really quiet way. He needs replacement like a motherfucker though and I find it sort of suspicious that CTD forgot to check up on his top suspect for over a week?

I agree with you on Desp. Slandaar not so much.

In post 1652, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1644, Oversoul wrote:No, a townie who really hasn't put as much effort as he should into the game
Yeah, that bugs me. People who do fake claim gambits don't lose interest in games. There was only about 3 days between your informed townie claim and your reveal that it was a gambit. And you posted 37 times in the interim.

At what point did you lose interest in this game?

So. Much. This.

In post 1676, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1674, Bacde wrote:I'm clawing for reasons to unvote you and vote for desperado you know

I'd so much prefer it for both of us to be town and I want to believe

but you aren't helping me here

you feel like scum to me love
My definitely scum read is Desperado. Normally it would be baby spice, but I'm still sort of trying to sort her out. I don't think Red Ryu is scum, but I've been deceived by people going head-first at me for stupid reasons before. Slandaar, AK, Kublai, BS, fuzzy could be scum.

Why Kublai, AK, Slandaar?

In post 1680, Nachomamma8 wrote:I think that scum hopping onto my wagon in such an awkward way wouldn't immediately posture to hop off it again with a "I don't think you deserve something as insulting as a D1 lynch", and the reason for finding this game to be boring was actually decently thought out, calling for more cheekiness in the game... It rung right to me because yeah the game was exactly that way to me before I found Desp, and it makes sense that his activity would drop off after his Informed Townie claim didn't come to anything interesting and he doesn't really have any strong scumreads from the whole thing when it's all said and done.

Wait, you're willing to drop the whole Oversoul thing because of one genuine-sounding post? WHAT?

In post 1696, Bacde wrote:Yeah that was when I was highest energy was when you were more supportive

now you're off the wagon and I'm feeling insecure again

tbh I'm willing to lynch hanz, he hasn't been posting since that one debacle at all has he

its just that I feel like I have scum by the throat right now in nacho, and I don't want to give it up, and I don't understand why others aren't either

1) seeing what I'm seeing

or

2) Trying to show me why I'm wrong rather than take the bulbazak approach and say that I'm faking it and calling me scum

or

3) Trying to show me a better scum candidate

which actually you are doing mollie. You are doing number 3. Did I mention to you that you're a townread of mine?

Bacde, go read my #1540.

Syryana · Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 9:31 am

So, I'm quite bothered by Nacho's change of heart from Oversoul. One "I don't care" post is enough to change a two week tunnel on the slot? Granted you seem to find Desp scummier at the moment (and I do agree with that scumread) but are you really changing your mind on OS due to the one post?

Bacde, why do you want to lynch Hanz (in the event you stop on Nacho)?

AK's wagon hop onto Nacho has me highly suspicious.

Might go back and look harder into/make a case on Desp later.

Bulbazak · Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 10:41 am

In post 1626, Bacde wrote:Although why isn't nacho voting OS anymore?

And why wasn't he explaining why to vote OS to me better?

It's amazing how much you miss when you're stuck in a dark tunnel...

In post 1650, Oversoul wrote: I kinda don't want to lynch you Day 1 because I find Day 1 lynches to be disgraceful and a slap in the face and I don't think you deserve that but I haven't been paying attention enough to really name a probable suspect

Wait, what? When did this start to become more about people's honor and not about lynching scum? Is it only the older players' honor that we have to protect, and if so, does that mean that a less experienced player must be lynched to protect it, regardless of the outcome? Does the lynchee have to commit hari kari if lynched d1? Inquiring minds want to know!

In post 1665, Desperado wrote:Don't call me kiddo...although the unnecessary condescension might help get you lynched so on second thought, keep patronizing me

If that was a serious reason to lynch someone, half of the player list would be dead.

In post 1696, Bacde wrote: which actually you are doing mollie. You are doing number 3. Did I mention to you that you're a townread of mine?

Back off Bacde! Three is company, four's a crowd!

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 11:25 am

In post 1636, ArcAngel9 wrote:this must be majiffy

Caught me!

Nacho - Seanald lynch?

Baby Spice · Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 11:46 am

Lol Nacho.

It wasn't crap as it wasn't even there, with scum reads voting you.

But by about Bacd's iso #80 there actually started to be one so my read on you develope some.

Now though with Bc making noises about shifting his vote I'm wondering what's happening.

Didn't get my iso read done though. Nanna nap won out

Bacde · Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 12:12 pm

In post 1703, Syryana wrote:Bacde, why do you want to lynch Hanz (in the event you stop on Nacho)?

honestly, I don't "want" to lynch him if that makes any sense

I'd just be willing to lynch him

I want to lynch nacho

and I agree with you that it doesn't make any sense that nacho dropped the OS case

I'ma be discussing a lot of this game w/ you/B&tB I think because trying to talk to anyone else is driving me crazy

Seanald I appreciate the moral support but the way you are doing it looks really scummy fyi, I'm giving this to you as a gift just in case you are actually scum because I actually really enjoy your posting

Bacde · Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 12:14 pm

In post 1704, Bulbazak wrote:Wait, what? When did this start to become more about people's honor and not about lynching scum? Is it only the older players' honor that we have to protect, and if so, does that mean that a less experienced player must be lynched to protect it, regardless of the outcome? Does the lynchee have to commit hari kari if lynched d1? Inquiring minds want to know!

first thing bulbazak has posted in a game I'm in that I've truly enjoyed

Bacde · Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 12:15 pm

Syr I'm willing to work with you on AA9 scum

I'm in a "could be scum could be town" headspace with AA9 right now

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 1:11 pm

In post 1709, Bacde wrote:Syr I'm willing to work with you on AA9 scum

I'm in a "could be scum could be town" headspace with AA9 right now

wait you had her for a sure scum read like 5 minutes ago and now you are bargaining

Bacde · Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 1:33 pm

Yeah but then she made the long reads post and everyone was like "wow AA9 so town" and I got caught up with the crowd

Bacde · Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 1:34 pm

mollie I can tell that recently you are feeling unsure about me

trust me this is the same bacde that you saw in pikmin mafia

Bacde · Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 1:34 pm

FUCK ONGOING GODAMNIT WHY DO I DO THAT

EDIT OUT OR MODKILL ME OR DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO I GET IT

Bacde · Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 1:35 pm

Sorry mastin didn't mean to do that

<<< It's okay, I'm a fairly lenient mod. You get off with only a warning, but if it happens again, the punishment will be more severe. >>>

Baby Spice · Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 1:54 pm

Thor and one of the Hydra's I think it was got away with it and that was far more egrarius than your comment Bacde.

<<< This is incorrect. If a warning was delivered, I would have notified everyone of the warning and the reason it was delivered. >>>

Bacde · Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 2:00 pm

thx baby,

do you have anything game related to say?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 2:04 pm

In post 1713, Bacde wrote:FUCK ONGOING GODAMNIT WHY DO I DO THAT

EDIT OUT OR MODKILL ME OR DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO I GET IT

Er, I don't want to take any action without mastin2's approval, but I don't think what you did is a modkillable offense.

Majiffy · Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 2:14 pm

USER WAS MODKILLED FOR THIS POST.

<<< Not a good joke, Majiffy. You receive a warning yourself. >>>

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 3:58 pm

............
Wtf happened?

EddieFenix · Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 4:46 pm

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.... FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! READS MAN!!! I WANT YOUR READS AND COMMENTS!!!

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 4:52 pm

Yes, Yes, I know.
Can someone explain to me wtf happened and who got modkilled?

I'll have reads up this weekend. I PROMISE.

Bulbazak · Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 5:19 pm

In post 1721, fuzzybutternut wrote:Yes, Yes, I know.
Can someone explain to me wtf happened and who got modkilled?

I'll have reads up this weekend. I PROMISE.

Nobody was killed. It was all snark.

I look forward to your amazing insights.

Syryana · Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 5:20 pm

Bacde wrote:Yeah but then she made the long reads post and everyone was like "wow AA9 so town" and I got caught up with the crowd

People that thought AA9's post was "good" or "townie": Bulbazak, Cephrir, AK, Slandaar

People who didn't: B&B, me, Thezemon

Hmm...

Slandaar, why do you think AA is town? You were in Tenements too; this is nothing like her town play was there.

Bacde. Let's assume for a moment that the Nacho slot doesn't exist. Who are your top three scumreads, and why?

B&B, what are your general thoughts on current events? (E.g. Bacde's sudden Nacho waffle, Nacho v. Desp)

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2013 5:39 pm

In post 1715, Baby Spice wrote:Thor and one of the Hydra's I think it was got away with it and that was far more egrarius than your comment Bacde.

gee

I hope you are not talking about me

cos this was the game I was referring to wrt the cult game:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=24690

also I don't think thor has mentioned any ongoing games he wouldn't do that

lol, I think I argued about something similar to this in that very same game!

the irony