Newbie 1367: Maestro's Newbie Newbie (SCUM WIN!)

[jmo16mla]

Tunneling is a null tell.

Do you not realize how anti town it is to role fish?

[TheIrishPope]

Tunneling is a null tell.

Do you not realize how anti town it is to role fish?

Tunneling is a scum tell for me. Town should look at everyone, in my opinion, like I am looking at four of you right now.
It is not anti town. It is a simple RQS. I see no harm in it. Role fishing really only works if they claim, which no one has.
Why do you think it is anti town? Also, do you think I am scum?

[jmo16mla]

If you go fishing and don't catch any fish, did you still go fishing?

If tunneling is a scum tell, then you may need to reevaluate.

Asking someone if they are a PR is not RQS at all.

I think your just not smart.

[TheIrishPope]

If you go fishing and don't catch any fish, did you still go fishing?

If tunneling is a scum tell, then you may need to reevaluate.

Asking someone if they are a PR is not RQS at all.

I think

you're

just not smart.

Alright, I see what you're saying. You must look at intention:

why

did I go fishing? Ask yourself that question.
Scum tunnels so hard. They pick the weak bond and tunnel them until Day ends with a town lynch.
What is the scum motivation behind asking this? In its most basic state, it is a reaction test. How would someone react if they were asked this all of a sudden? I derived my read from that. I confidently say that he is town. For now. If he doesn't screw it up.

[TheEsquire]

I understand the want for lynching me today because I'm the one who hammered. If you guys feel that's the way you need to go, I'll bear no ill will. However, that said, it'd be a mistake because I'm a townie and it would put you guys at a lynch or lose situation the next day.

[TheEsquire]

Anyways, to answer MM's question. You may be the IC, but I completely forgot about it. Never even crossed my mind. Cabd seems to be doing the most talking and seems to be the most aggressive at scum hunting, and he came to mind immediately when the night kill didn't turn up him. He's just more out there by his actions alone, and that makes for a more inviting target in my eyes.

But WIFOM isnt useful to town, especially this early. Its all about what ifs and such. There is really no concrete evidence behind it.

VOTE: esquire

He's talking about the NK. Town has no reasons to really try to justify te NK like he is doing. He is trying to make sense of it as if he did it. Happy with my vote and wish others would partake in it also.

Well, yeah. To catch scum you gotta think like scum. I always ask myself "What if I were mafia this game? What would I do?" They may not always think like I do, but the basic idea of it stands. Like I said, I'm well aware it's WIFOM, hence why I didn't throw down a vote.

TheIrishPope, nice to see you come into the game.

[TheIrishPope]

I understand the want for lynching me today because I'm the one who hammered. If you guys feel that's the way you need to go, I'll bear no ill will. However, that said, it'd be a mistake because I'm a townie and it would put you guys at a lynch or lose situation the next day.

Why don't you defend yourself? Are you admitting you are scum?
Why do you suddenly change your stark tone to a more defensive one?
Give us two reasons as to why we shouldn't lynch you, and we might take you seriously.

[TheIrishPope]

TheIrishPope, nice to see you come into the game.

Why thank you.

[TheEsquire]

I understand the want for lynching me today because I'm the one who hammered. If you guys feel that's the way you need to go, I'll bear no ill will. However, that said, it'd be a mistake because I'm a townie and it would put you guys at a lynch or lose situation the next day.

Why don't you defend yourself? Are you admitting you are scum?
Why do you suddenly change your stark tone to a more defensive one?
Give us two reasons as to why we shouldn't lynch you, and we might take you seriously.

I never once said I'm LETTING you lynch me. I said that I won't hold it against you if you do...

And the stark tone was to make people realize the seriousness of the situation if they decide to simply policy lynch me. If you guys do decide to lynch me, you gotta guess right tomorrow.

Anyways, two reasons you shouldn't lynch me? The obvious reason (at least to me) is that I'm a towny. Second, a hammer isn't the be all end all for anything. If he had of flipped scum, you wouldn't be scrutinizing me so hard right now. Someone had to take the hammer at some point. I sucked it up and did it knowing full well the implications of such. I announced my intent. It wasn't a sneak attack or me jumping for a quick lynch. Hell, I even put off the hammer for a few extra hours to wait for people to talk about it, but no one came. I did what I thought I had to do.

Yes, it sucks I hit the cop. Yes, I'm pretty pissed off about it too. And Yes, I knew the moment I saw the flip that everyone would jump me. What else do you want to hear from me, because I've got nothing. If anything, look at the people jumping on the easy bandwagon here. They currently have my eye.

[TheEsquire]

And I coulda sworn I saw three votes on me, not two... Damn I'm tired. A bandwagon really doesn't exist here yet, but I'm still the easy target. Not to sound OMGUS-ish, but I don't like the votes on me. It'd be saying the same thing if someone else was in my situation.

[Cabd]

^ATE is bad and you should feel bad.

More to come, just got back from the local Swedish Food Festival, gotta catch up and get some drinks.

[TheIrishPope]

TheEsquire, proof your statements and we will believe you. "I am towny" is not a good reason. Feeling sorry is not a good reason.
We are not talking about policy lynching. We are saying you are scum.

[TheEsquire]

Wasn't purposely trying to appeal to emotion (had to look that abbrv. up). Just the way I am in my posts, and always will be. I don't feel bad for being me. If you dislike it, that's fine. Anyways.

TheEsquire, proof your statements and we will believe you. "I am towny" is not a good reason. Feeling sorry is not a good reason.
We are not talking about policy lynching. We are saying you are scum.

If I could prove my statements, this wouldn't be a very interesting game of mafia. Why do you think I'm scum other than the fact that I hammered?

[TheIrishPope]

AtE, not giving reasons, saying we are policy lynching you out of the blue, basically all of #308 which is full of worthless words.

[Klazam]

ok.

still not posting. things turned to shit in life,

but one thing I know- theirishpope is terrible. that role fishing was horrible. I mean horrible.

I promise that a good post will be up tomorrow.

[Cabd]

So we have…

From Esquire:

Appealing to Emotion
Trying to paint the next vote for you as scummy
Claiming to have solid reads with a lack of a vote out
Change in posting style
Justifying the NK
“Oh crap” lynch/NK reaction


From Irish:
Role-Fishing
Richard being all IIOA
Trying “
From Klazam:
“oh crap” reaction to NK
Lack of new content



Well damn, telling me it's scummy to vote you makes me want to vote you.
Not to mention how much more stuff you have than they have reason wise.
L-1.

UNVOTE: irish
VOTE: esquire


Re post 297 by Irish; the time for RQS is early day one in lieu of RVS. For all I know Laz could have been a PR and noobish enough to say as much. Obviously that didn’t happen, but you had no way to know that in advance, so it’s not a good idea as town.



More from me when I’m not under the effects of these three glasses of tequila I just downed.

[TheIrishPope]

Re post 297 by Irish; the time for RQS is early day one in lieu of RVS. For all I know Laz could have been a PR and noobish enough to say as much. Obviously that didn’t happen, but you had no way to know that in advance, so it’s not a good idea as town.

Given I have just replaced in, I think I am entitled to RQS. Laz is not a PR, I know that now. It would have been silly for him to claim if he doesn't have a PR.
Who do you think is TheEsquire's scum partner?

[Cabd]

Given I have just replaced in, I think I am entitled to RQS. Laz is not a PR, I know that now. It would have been silly for him to claim if he doesn't have a PR.

Establishing that, if it is in fact true, is the bad thing in the first place. If there is a second town PR, they now have one less place to hide from the NK, and if you keep RQS-ing away those palces, you're hurting the town, not helping us.

Who do you think is TheEsquire's scum partner?

Dunno. I'll have to re-read and or ISO him, but it's probably not you. I get that feel for now, but you never know. This entire expedition feels like a replaced in player trying to make himself memorable since his previous slot player was anything but. Still don't like that you did it though.

[TheIrishPope]

Given I have just replaced in, I think I am entitled to RQS. Laz is not a PR, I know that now. It would have been silly for him to claim if he doesn't have a PR.

Establishing that, if it is in fact true, is the bad thing in the first place. If there is a second town PR, they now have one less place to hide from the NK, and if you keep RQS-ing away those palces, you're hurting the town, not helping us.

Who do you think is TheEsquire's scum partner?

Dunno. I'll have to re-read and or ISO him, but it's probably not you. I get that feel for now, but you never know. This entire expedition feels like a replaced in player trying to make himself memorable since his previous slot player was anything but. Still don't like that you did it though.

1. Well, you kinda tore my entire technique away. Thanks. Scum would have thought that he was the PR, when in fact he is not, saving the actual PR in the process, and giving him one more night. But your questioning dismantled it.
2. I would have unvoted knowing he was at L-1.

[Klazam]

Jesus. irishpope- you're just horrible.

finding out if a person is a pr or not a pr is equally bad.

[Cabd]

If it took me ten seconds of thinking clearly to "tear your entire technique away" then it's bad and you should feel bad.

[TheIrishPope]

Jesus. irishpope- you're just horrible.

finding out if a person is a pr or not a pr is equally bad.

If you could post with more content, that'd be great.

If it took me ten seconds of thinking clearly to "tear your entire technique away" then it's bad and you should feel bad.

Town is smart. Scum is dumb.
Town uses the superego. Scum uses the id.
Congratulations. You are Town.

[Ms Marangal]

^ATE is bad and you should feel bad.

More to come, just got back from the local Swedish Food Festival, gotta catch up and get some drinks.

No.

Tunneling is a null tell.

Do you not realize how anti town it is to role fish?

Tunneling is a scum tell for me

. Town should look at everyone, in my opinion, like I am looking at four of you right now.
It is not anti town. It is a simple RQS. I see no harm in it. Role fishing really only works if they claim, which no one has.

Why do you think it is anti town? Also, do you think I am scum?

No to the bolded

Fuck the Italicized part, but this is a town post

ok.

still not posting. things turned to shit in life,

but one thing I know- theirishpope is terrible. that role fishing was horrible. I mean horrible.

I promise that a good post will be up tomorrow.

and we now lynch this fuck

VOTE: Klazam

[TheIrishPope]

Klazam is another scumread of mine; he talks and talks but doesn't take action. Vote for me, Klazamscum. Do it.
My read is stronger on TheEsquire anyway, so my vote will stay there.

[Cabd]

On my phone but you disagree with the claim that ATE is scummy, Mara?