Micro 177: Goonies Mafia - GAME OVER

Selkies · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 3:46 pm

In post 74, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 73, RachMarie wrote:Orc we really are not gonna do this dance again are we?
Give me one reason not to.

You are impossible to read because all you do all day long is sit on the sidelines and cheerlead.

All you do all day long is sit on the sidelines and cheerlead so what exactly are we losing by lynching you.

You act anti-town by prematurely claiming in the last two games we've been in.

i'm terrible with this hydra thing

Torcinator · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:27 pm

Orc, let me explain.

That's just the way she rolls. If she's Mafia, she's doing a good job of it. If she's Town, she's just preventing the Mafia from getting any info on her role.

You have a townie (and a day/night phase) to lose in the process.

Other games have absolutely no influence on this game.

I smell scum...

Selkies · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:32 pm

nah. you smell town orcinus. Some players bollix up their town game to benefit their scum game. I haven't figured out if Rach does that intentionally, or if it's just her personality to hang back and be noncommital.

- fferyllt

Torcinator · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:35 pm

Still, asking, "What do we have to lose by lynching you?" is pretty scummy in my book.

Selkies · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:35 pm

Oh my god 76 just reeks hilariously of newb town

Give me a meta link so I don't do the same thing I did in polygamist though.

Selkies · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:36 pm

In post 78, Torcinator wrote:Still, asking, "What do we have to lose by lynching you?" is pretty scummy in my book.

Okay.

So why aren't you voting me

Selkies · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:37 pm

I'm going to try and be as un-abrasive as possible.

In post 76, Torcinator wrote:Orc, let me explain.

That's just the way she rolls. If she's Mafia, she's doing a good job of it. If she's Town, she's just preventing the Mafia from getting any info on her role.

So hypothetically, not posting anything but "a" every day is by your definition good play for Mafia and town.

You have a townie (and a day/night phase) to lose in the process.

Why are you assuming rach is town?

Other games have absolutely no influence on this game.

Bullshit. It's the same player playing in both games. If I think somebody's town play was crap in game A, I'll be more inclined to lynch them the next time I play with them.

I smell scum...

Try again.

RachMarie · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:40 pm

he cant cause he played on another site not here.

However dont be too sure he is town there I am always suspicious when someone jumps to my defense ever since my first game on site when Meta did it and it helped him and LS win the game.

yeah I was thinking orc was being his towny self can you rein him in a bit so we dont end up outing PRs so soon? The idea is to catch the scumz....

Selkies · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:41 pm

In post 78, Torcinator wrote:Still, asking, "What do we have to lose by lynching you?" is pretty scummy in my book.

Let me just clarify this.

Because Rach is such a pain in the ass to read, we'll end up lynching her at one point or another in the game. And since I doubt she will contribute anything to the game (beside maybe free pom-poms), we might as well make it day 1.

This will change when I get a scumread.

And wait.

wait.

You have a

book

that you go by?

Tell me about this book.

Selkies · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:41 pm

In post 82, RachMarie wrote:he cant cause he played on another site not here.

However dont be too sure he is town there I am always suspicious when someone jumps to my defense ever since my first game on site when Meta did it and it helped him and LS win the game.

yeah I was thinking orc was being his towny self can you rein him in a bit so we dont end up outing PRs so soon? The idea is to catch the scumz....

I am very fine with him linking to offsite games.

Hi Rach. Can you promise me that you will claim only
1). When you are at L-1 AND
2). When somebody offers to hammer

thank you?

Selkies · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:42 pm

@Mod: requiesting prods go out for players that haven't posted in 48 hours.

yates and anorway have one post each.

- fferyllt

Torcinator · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:47 pm

I have not seen rach play before, and you specifically said, "Cheerleading," so I assumed that you meant the meaning of the word.

I am assuming that because she is unconfirmed either way, and therefore is more likely to be Town than Mafia.

Yes, but until the player actually plays, you have no reason to lynch them (unless it's a running gag).

No, you try again.

Torcinator · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:49 pm

I put links to my completed games somewhere in the Micro Signup, page 156 or 157, I believe.

Selkies · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:52 pm

In post 86, Torcinator wrote:I have not seen rach play before, and you specifically said, "Cheerleading," so I assumed that you meant the meaning of the word.

How exactly is cheerleading pro-town, and how exactly saying "good job catch scum go town!" every game for like 50 times more productive than the hypothetical I gave?

I am assuming that because she is unconfirmed either way, and therefore is more likely to be Town than Mafia.

Wow. So everyone is unconfirmed...so...we should no-lynch, right?

Yes, but until the player actually plays, you have no reason to lynch them (unless it's a running gag).

If somebody demonstrates to have poor town play in another game, it's not exactly a crazy extrapolation to assume that they'll have poor town play in this game. And since risk/reward, and the risk of losing a bad town player is a bit less than usual, I would be more inclined to lynch them if all other factors were held equal.

No, you try again.

Tell me about this
book
that you own. Do you have a
thing
that you do along with it? come on man I'm interested

Shadi1337 · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:58 pm

In post 49, RachMarie wrote:hmm well it seems a bit odd that a newbie would come out and halfway accuse himself like that? As Fu said I could see someone who is very experienced say a Thor or a Nacho doing that, but a newbie?

I'm not a noob, just didn't have several games on this specific forum.

In post 49, RachMarie wrote: Probably not, so yeah Shadi is prob newbtown instead of newbscum. As for his comment on Torc, I took that as a joke especially since in a previous game Fu lost his avatar somehow and I commented on it.

I wish to be read as an experienced player, there's no reason to have sympathy on a new player in this game. It's a detective game and you have all the rights to jump on every slip. Whose idea was it to protect noobs in this game in the first place?

In post 49, RachMarie wrote: I have a good reason (besides being an IC type lol), for wanting avatars. It makes it much easier for me to read peeps. I am 70% blind.

Agreed, makes the user seem more unique and you'll easier remember whom it is.

However, I do not understand why crackin' an obvious joke in the start of a game due to my name really seems scummish. It's not WIFOM if it's not even slightly game related.

And to disprove that we're scum together with Rach I will now tunnel her as it seems like she often escapes cheaply by whatever the guy's name with meta experience on her was called.

In reality the vote is very randomly put, but I'm quite blank at this point and most reads are null/neutral and tilt not to left nor right.

So yeah, let's see how Marie handles pressure.

Shadi1337 · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:59 pm

Ffs forgot the vote itself..
VOTE: RachMarie

Torcinator · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 5:02 pm

I stated arguments as to why rach would play like that for either side.

Not that, but she's more likely to be town as opposed to Mafia.

Okay, I will agree to this.

It's called philosophy, now deal with it.

Selkies · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 5:04 pm

Can all people with offsite meta just link to them now

I think it's stupid and maybe even scummy to not consider a persons prior experience in a Mafia game. You're trying to evaluate whether or not a person is town or scum. It would be naive to judge a persons posting by a benchmark that does not apply to them. For instance, calling a new player scummy for being clueless about the game is something I frown upon because it makes no freaking sense. It's a new player. You don't expect them to come in and lead the town. Scum typically need to fabricate reasons for scumreads and this is one of the easiest.

And to disprove that we're scum together with Rach I will now tunnel her as it seems like she often escapes cheaply by whatever the guy's name with meta experience on her was called.

In reality the vote is very randomly put, but I'm quite blank at this point and most reads are null/neutral and tilt not to left nor right.

Oh god.

VOTE: Shadi

Hi Fudu you were wrong

Selkies · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 5:07 pm

In post 92, Selkies wrote:Can all people with offsite meta just link to them now

Nope. Not doing that

- fferyllt

Selkies · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 5:08 pm

In post 91, Torcinator wrote:I stated arguments as to why rach would play like that for either side.

Not that, but she's more likely to be town as opposed to Mafia.

Okay, I will agree to this.

It's called philosophy, now deal with it.

"a"

So wait. You're town reading rach by dint of...there are more townies than scum in the setup? Hi okay youre not supposed to do that.

Are you doing your

thing[/] right now?

Selkies · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 5:08 pm

In post 93, Selkies wrote:
In post 92, Selkies wrote:Can all people with offsite meta just link to them now
Nope. Not doing that

- fferyllt

VOTE: Fer... wait

RachMarie · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 5:09 pm

Umm I get lynched a LOT so yeah that does not fly there Shadi.

When I said newbie it was not meant to be offensive, just that on this site you are a newbie based on your start date. I can only judge based on that since I have no clue how many games and what other sites people have played on. I do know there are several significant differences between this site and others like length of day/night. being anti NL early on which some other sites encourage on day 1, and so on. So not an insult by anymeans after all we all start out here at some point.

I am an IC so I play with a lot of newbies in the Newbie games.
'
Orc I miscounted in 487 and I thought I was at L-1 when I claimed not L-2.

PEDIT let me post you two

Selkies · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 5:10 pm

In post 80, Selkies wrote:
In post 78, Torcinator wrote:Still, asking, "What do we have to lose by lynching you?" is pretty scummy in my book.
Okay.

So why aren't you voting me

Or are you townreading me because there are more town than scum in the setup

RachMarie · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 5:11 pm

Also Shadi

Who is Marie?

Selkies · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 5:12 pm

In post 96, RachMarie wrote:Umm I get lynched a LOT so yeah that does not fly there Shadi.

When I said newbie it was not meant to be offensive, just that on this site you are a newbie based on your start date. I can only judge based on that since I have no clue how many games and what other sites people have played on. I do know there are several significant differences between this site and others like length of day/night. being anti NL early on which some other sites encourage on day 1, and so on. So not an insult by anymeans after all we all start out here at some point.

I am an IC so I play with a lot of newbies in the Newbie games.
'
Orc I miscounted in 487 and I thought I was at L-1 when I claimed not L-2.

PEDIT let me post you two

Hi Ms. IC you're not doing a fantastic job of explaining to torc why more town than scum in village doesn't make everyone town