Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[GuyInFreezer]

Huh, interesting.

Elaborate on this plz.

[Svenskt Stål]

Vote: Sven

because i claim to be in a meeting?

[Cabd]

Vote: Sven

because i claim to be in a meeting?

Right, so the meeting only allows you to make tiny posts with no content, gotcha.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Vote: Sven

because i claim to be in a meeting?

Right, so the meeting only allows you to make tiny posts with no content, gotcha.

nvm about that town read

[Svenskt Stål]

i wanna vote cabd

no meeting ended

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Huh, interesting.

Elaborate on this plz.

Yes please.

Cabd was looking town riiiight up until 102.

I'm starting to see Sven town.

Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven

UNVOTE: really really going now asogih34oin

[Cabd]

i wanna vote cabd

no meeting ended

What, you need permission now?

Vote: Sven

because i claim to be in a meeting?

Right, so the meeting only allows you to make tiny posts with no content, gotcha.

nvm about that town read

I just dislike excuses made on the fly where somebody claims "oh I can't post" and then they post anyways. Chalk it up to my own personal meta if you wish, but town doesn't do that.

[Svenskt Stål]

trying to find a post of someone sponging orc, it was about his a b c cases

cant find it, making me furious


@cabd, where did i state i couldnt post?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

*Sorry, I'm starting to see GiF town. Thought typo.

I'll just go ahead and go back to VOTE: Metal Sonic and I hope I wake up to a wagon on him.

Pedit: Oh okay. So sort of like Buld hating on people who use "I have a life" as a dodge-reason.

Eh. Bad town =/= scum I guess.

I think most of us are town here.

GOOD NIGHT.

[Cabd]

trying to find a post of someone sponging orc, it was about his a b c cases

cant find it, making me furious


@cabd, where did i state i couldnt post?

In response to this:

Sven, where did you go? I expected you to do things while I gave you space.

you said this:

i have a skype meeting

Which would imply you were telling us you could not post.

[Svenskt Stål]

no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.

Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.

There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in

A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.

Why are you not considering maybe

C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^


Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.

Pretty much my thoughts as well. Forcing it into Black or White is really bad when Gray exists. I've also seen plenty of wolves claim miller and make it to a win in endgame, sooo...

VOTE: sven

here it is.

i dont like it because he is rewording orc´s thoughts just because, or so it feels to me. and i never said gray didnt exist, i just assumed that i would either be lynched or nk and not live to long.

If sven is town,

mafia would be staying far away

from this entire thing, IMO.

Let us whip ourselves

into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.

This is odd aswell and just feels like he is getting a chance to "put himself" inside town and distancing from threat.
it lacks natural flow... cant precise it more then that

VOTE: cabd

[Svenskt Stål]

trying to find a post of someone sponging orc, it was about his a b c cases

cant find it, making me furious


@cabd, where did i state i couldnt post?

In response to this:

Sven, where did you go? I expected you to do things while I gave you space.

you said this:

i have a skype meeting

Which would imply you were telling us you could not post.

it might imply it, but i was merely stating why i was abscent.

also it should be clear to you that i should be able to make small posts and not large thoughtout posts under these conditions

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven

Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.
Sven isn't towning hard enough for me yet.

[Nachomamma8]

And I think that Cabd vote is horrible, but that's a more recent thing.

[BROseidon]

Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.

Why is this stupid? If it's generally true that miller claims on day one are legit, then we should not lynch Sven, right?

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Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.

Why are Cadb and GiF town as fuck, and what does a "boring" vote even mean?

I'll buy Sven's miller claim for now. The miller claim early is super risky for scum, and for the miller it's a reasonable choice to make (I've day one claimed miller on the other site where I play, and it's standard there for millers to claim day one there). I don't think the fact that Nacho and Orc were so aggressive in questioning the claim makes them either town or scum (on the other site where I play it tends to be both that attack D1 miller claims), but I like the way in which both of them did it. Thinking both are town. Unsure about the rest.

Don't agree with 76 though. I don't think that everyone who chimed in on the miller claim is auto-town, and now that that post has been made it is definitely not an assumption we can make.

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Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven

Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.
Sven isn't towning hard enough for me yet.

Reminds me. Why no negotiation with buldermar this game?

[Nachomamma8]

Yeah, because heaven forbid I agree with anyone that makes a good point. I voted for sven because I'm calling bullshit on the miller claim. Orc typed up the logic behind it pretty well, so why the hell would I need to re-invent the wheel when it's right there to quote?

Usually scum that feels the need to sheep someone else to take a stance aren't this aggressive when someone calls them out for sheeping. I purposely had a bit of a reaching attack, so the emotional response is pretty unwarranted at all. GiF's a little harder to explain, but his bias of MS isn't necessarily in a scum mindset. I'll be a little suspicious of him if MS turns out to be scum (since the claim of bias could actually just be covering up him being uncomfortable putting forward a read on his scumbuddy), but otherwise there's not really a scum advantage in having trouble reading what might be an easy lynch.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.

Why is this stupid? If it's generally true that miller claims on day one are legit, then we should not lynch Sven, right?

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Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.

Why are Cadb and GiF town as fuck, and what does a "boring" vote even mean?

I'll buy Sven's miller claim for now. The miller claim early is super risky for scum, and for the miller it's a reasonable choice to make (I've day one claimed miller on the other site where I play, and it's standard there for millers to claim day one there). I don't think the fact that Nacho and Orc were so aggressive in questioning the claim makes them either town or scum (on the other site where I play it tends to be both that attack D1 miller claims), but I like the way in which both of them did it. Thinking both are town. Unsure about the rest.

Don't agree with 76 though. I don't think that everyone who chimed in on the miller claim is auto-town, and now that that post has been made it is definitely not an assumption we can make.

Is the fence leaving an imprint on your butt yet

[orcinus_theoriginal]

It's stupid because "oh because he doesn't have a meta of fake claiming miller so this miller claim must be real!" makes a surprising amount of nonsense. Sven's meta wrt miller claims shouldn't be considered when evaluating it.

What are your opinions on cabd and GiF?

Do you have a scumread?

Why is everyone jumping on Cabd for his answers to my questions and ignoring the fact that they are, in fact, ANSWERS. To MY questions.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Here. Have a cookie.

VOTE: BRO

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven

Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.
Sven isn't towning hard enough for me yet.

Reminds me. Why no negotiation with buldermar this game?

I was sorting hoping you two would roll scum this game and I could get you lynched D1.
Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case.

[Nachomamma8]

Here. Have a cookie.

VOTE: BRO

Wait are you seriously reading him as scum?
Why are you reading Sven town recently?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Why would you ask me the first question now?
Because fery is town reading sven

[Nachomamma8]

Why would you ask me the first question now?
Because fery is town reading sven

There's no reason to waste useless pressure on him when he's going to be obvious town regardless of whether you put votes on him or not. It'd probably be better if you didn't go psycho aggression on him because he is new, he is obvtown, and you might lock down his scumhunting.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

You see obvtown on him?