Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

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no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.

Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.

There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in

A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.

Why are you not considering maybe

C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^


Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.

Pretty much my thoughts as well. Forcing it into Black or White is really bad when Gray exists. I've also seen plenty of wolves claim miller and make it to a win in endgame, sooo...

VOTE: sven

here it is.

i dont like it because he is rewording orc´s thoughts just because, or so it feels to me. and i never said gray didnt exist, i just assumed that i would either be lynched or nk and not live to long.

If sven is town,

mafia would be staying far away

from this entire thing, IMO.

Let us whip ourselves

into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.

This is odd aswell and just feels like he is getting a chance to "put himself" inside town and distancing from threat.
it lacks natural flow... cant precise it more then that

VOTE: cabd

I'm pretty sure steel is town. Firstly, this perfectly lines up with my thought. Secondly, if he was a scum making a miller gambit, I'd think he'd be more preoccupied contemplating what to do next and tunnel on self-meta stuff.

- b

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.

Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.

There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in

A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.

Why are you not considering maybe

C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^


Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.

Pretty much my thoughts as well. Forcing it into Black or White is really bad when Gray exists.

I've also seen plenty of wolves claim miller and make it to a win in endgame, sooo...

VOTE: sven

cite plz. cos I haven't.

fery can you?

I don't know what to make of sven he seems kind of crazy. scum nking a miller doesn't make sense unless the miller isn't a really good job at pushing scum.

or universally town read?

yes.

also the above should read "unless the miller is doing a really good job at pushing scum"

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Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven

Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey

on Day 1

because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.
Sven isn't towning hard enough for me yet.

How is Cabd town as fuck?

Also fixed your post.

- b

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I don't understand your cabd town read

I think I explained it earlier.
If I didn't, you can explain that Sven townread first!

be patient I am still trying to catch up

[GuyInFreezer]

@Sajin: sven's not new. Will it change your view? (Omg rhyme)
Also, I don't see what you say in that post. Is it jjust my english?

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Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven

Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.
Sven isn't towning hard enough for me yet.

Reminds me. Why no negotiation with buldermar this game?

I was sorting hoping you two would roll scum this game and I could get you lynched D1.
Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case.

When was the last time you got me lynched on day 1?

In fact, when was the last time you got me lynched? You like me as town and you know it.

- b

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You see obvtown on him?

(Just in case it wasn't clear I sort of want you to explain this)

Hell yeah. He just came off a game where I was his IC and we cleaned house pretty harshly, and his first instinct was to latch onto me a bit, figure out why I'm thinking what I'm thinking. I'd guess that he would be far more afraid of me as scum, maybe try to avoid me a bit; the way that he called us both town was also pretty genuine, with the "the aggression doesn't make them town but I think that the way things went down was pretty town" and all. He also has three townreads, which is more of a stance than most.

Was this the game with a perfect town win? I've heard stories and songs about it.

Btw, orc is probably town because f's usually right about him. We also agree that Nacho is likely town.

- b

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Can somebody just claim scum already this is getting ridiculous

How does one claim scum? I've tried several times unsuccesful.

- b

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So

Nacho is town
Cabd is town
GiF is probably town
Fery is probably town, meaning Sven is also probably town
BRO is probably town

This is the second most depressing type of list there is, right behind all scum.

Maybe we should go policy rach or something.

What the fuck why am I not sleepy

Why is Cabd town?

- b

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You see obvtown on him?

(Just in case it wasn't clear I sort of want you to explain this)

Hell yeah. He just came off a game where I was his IC and we cleaned house pretty harshly, and his first instinct was to latch onto me a bit, figure out why I'm thinking what I'm thinking. I'd guess that he would be far more afraid of me as scum, maybe try to avoid me a bit; the way that he called us both town was also pretty genuine, with the "the aggression doesn't make them town but I think that the way things went down was pretty town" and all. He also has three townreads, which is more of a stance than most.

Was this the game with a perfect town win? I've heard stories and songs about it.

Btw, orc is probably town because f's usually right about him. We also agree that Nacho is likely town.

- b

yep. that game. We will have words if you think BRO is scum.

- f

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ffer is right on me, that dont make her town.

she is just sucking up to the great svenskt until i decide that she isnt.

nacho wtf are you talking about

i get the "fucking with town reads" but i am just saying that i dont get the ffer=town after so few posts and so early.

For someone who doesn't understand how fake-claiming miller as scum can be viable you surely have high thoughts of yourself.

- b

[Svenskt Stål]

i do, i try my darnest to limit myself thou

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But I think if Fery's read is truly in development she doesn't like to voice them at all.

I mean, after calibration, "seems townish" is at least to me a decently solidified read

Unless someone in 2 wants to correct me

This is true.

- b

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Also, when you guys make references to plays not in the game by their nicknames it makes it hard to follow. Can somebody give me a cheat sheet of who is who here?

I am buldermar - one of the two heads of this hydra. I will try to sign all of my posts like this:

- b

[dntfkingcare]

i do, i try my darnest to limit myself thou

Don't try too hard. You might hurt something.

[Mac]

i do, i try my darnest to limit myself thou

Don't try too hard. You might hurt something.

Hi, got anything more to add?

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kid, you crack quick.

i just cant stand how bad you are.

So you decided to be worse?

- b

[Svenskt Stål]

i think i have done awesomely

i am almost lock clear

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orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?

- f

you went back on me before that, why was that?

you are scummy.

This was the first post in this thread I didn't hate.

thats kinda objectively bad on your part... alomst all of the shit i have posted is kind of towny for me.

You'd be a pretty awful scum if it wasn't, don't you think?

- b

[dntfkingcare]

kid, you crack quick.

i just cant stand how bad you are.

So you decided to be worse?

- b

Um, no not really. It looks like a buncha townies arguing to me. Are D1 lynches typical here? I rarely get anything solid off of D1.

[Nachomamma8]

D1 is the best time to lynch scum. It's the only time you're guaranteed to be around, which is nice and reassuring.

[dntfkingcare]

And wow.. Wrong post to quote. Sorry. Still getting used to these forums. Meant to quote this one with that post.

i do, i try my darnest to limit myself thou

Don't try too hard. You might hurt something.

Hi, got anything more to add?

[Mac]

kid, you crack quick.

i just cant stand how bad you are.

So you decided to be worse?

- b

Um, no not really. It looks like a buncha townies arguing to me. Are D1 lynches typical here? I rarely get anything solid off of D1.

Yes, they are and this seems like a weak excuse to not get involved. Like Nacho says, it's the only time you can be guaranteed to get your point across and heard for all to see.

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My thought process here is pretty simple guys, I voted nacho because he felt opportunistic springing on something I'd never seen happen before, but have seen scum try to get a lynch out of. He proved me wrong, so I unvoted. Now I am going to revote because of the wifom shitstorm that sven has created.

vote sven

I've been close to comment on literally every single post you've made because they have all been awful, but this probably beats the rest of them. I'm fine with a Tiphaine lynch as long as f doesn't oppose it.

- b

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Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven

Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.
Sven isn't towning hard enough for me yet.

I don't understand your cabd town read

Good, I'm not the only one.

- b