Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[Nachomamma8]

Is the fence leaving an imprint on your butt yet

she's town, stop

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

i am gonna deal with buldey.
i have been waiting for him to draw scum D1 for years and for years.
he can take me no matter how aggressive i get.

lol, I <3 you

but tbf he was scum in the game where you were sole survivor SK

[GuyInFreezer]

GiF needs to post MORE

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Is the fence leaving an imprint on your butt yet

she's town, stop

How do you read rach?

[Nachomamma8]

i am gonna deal with buldey.
i have been waiting for him to draw scum D1 for years and for years.
he can take me no matter how aggressive i get.

lol, I <3 you

but tbf he was scum in the game where you were sole survivor SK

i know.
but i need to catch him as scum before he catches me as scum, though.
this game doesn't count, but it will be good for a scum buldey baseline

[Nachomamma8]

Is the fence leaving an imprint on your butt yet

she's town, stop

How do you read rach?

i fucked up last game because i got too cocky about reading her
but the key is when her reads happen; she likes leaving her doors open as scum

[Nachomamma8]

you can sure as shit make sure that i'm going to be watching her all game (fool me once, shame on you fool me twice, FUCK NO)

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

i am gonna deal with buldey.
i have been waiting for him to draw scum D1 for years and for years.
he can take me no matter how aggressive i get.

lol, I <3 you

but tbf he was scum in the game where you were sole survivor SK

i know.
but i need to catch him as scum before he catches me as scum, though.
this game doesn't count, but it will be good for a scum buldey baseline

why wouldn't this game count?

[Nachomamma8]

because i read ffery, not buldey

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

ah

[Nachomamma8]

3. Andrius
4. BeautyAndTheBeast (Majiffy + pirate mollie)
5. BROseidon
6. Cabd
9. GuyInFreezer
11. Mac
13. orcinus_theoriginal
14. RachMarie
15. Sajin
18. TiphaineDeath
20. Varsoon

11/20 townreads

[Nachomamma8]

AJ, buldey, TMTOPBTWNTOF, Sven all scumreads.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Spoiler: Pgs 1-10

Don't like Orci's 29.
Don't like Tiphane's 35.
Nor his 52. First scum read.
Cabd 69 IGMEOU
Nacho is probably town.
Same with GIF.
Cabd 82. Second scum read.
Orci is dumb. So probably town.
Cabd 102. Can we lynch this?
Orci 103. Yey.
Sven finally earns his townwings. 110.
Orci's 158.

Yes

.
Nacho your (town) reads (on my scum reads) suck. Go spend an hour in the hyperbolic mafia chamber.
Agree with Sven's 171. Cabd can go to null-leaning-scum.
223. No. Not with this many meta-heavy players.
GIF 246. Vote is bad and you should

feel

bad.

Town
{Nacho,

GIF

,

Orci

,

Sven

}

Scum
{

Cabd

, Tiphane}
Bolded are stronger. italicized are weaker.

[Ghostlin]

I got on maybe an hour ago, and I'm up to page 5. I'm trying to catch up, but here are my notes.

TD's #52, Miller post or not withstanding was probably the dumbest/opportunist post of this game. If everyone clears an early claiming miller as innocent in every game and it's known site meta, scum will catch on and adapt. It's what scum -does-. Voting Nacho because Nacho pressured Sven is counter-intuitive. It needs to be checked.

Orc's #64 shows he actually thought about what would actually happen, particularly if Sven is a weak player.

Sven #71. I hate WIFOM and you should too. Having one scum in front often can allow other scums to hide. Having an alibi of 'I'm a Miller, don't waste your time investigating/lynching me' is also a possible play, particularly if you bother looking townie.

Cabd #76. Wrong answer. Scum would probably monopolize the confusion or even risk lynching a scum buddy for free Town points.

Nacho #89, Cabd did pull a stance, but his conjecture's wrong. It also clears him.

TD #99, WHY IS NO ONE CALLING TD ABOUT HIS REMOVING HIS VOTE FROM NACHO?

GIF #100 I retract statement on #99.

Nacho #113, his logic is horrible, but that doesn't mean he's scum. By the way, TD, how you feel about that?

BRO #114: Generally, yes, Miller claims are town. The problem with this post is the logic almost goes back and forth. Not entirely fencesitting, but..

That's it for these sets of pages. I'll try to super fast read from here on out.

[²]

when is the last time you read me as scum in game where I wasn't? you usually swat me aside with no worry cos you read me as town and I am the one who is trying to push for a solid town read.

on this site you have said that your playstyle is different and I have been trying to give you room

what part of that do you not understand. <----- do you see what I had to do right then I had to repeat myself AGAIN and I swear I think that I would not have to repeat myself THIS MUCH if you were town.

I don't know what you expect as an answer. I am what I am. My reactions are what they are.

I think you expect me to be playing here at MS at the level I was playing when I essentially stopped playing elsewhere. Given the environment here - the fact that players I have some meta on (and in many cases a ton of meta) are playing against a backdrop of unknown players moving in patterns I don't know yet - I am not playing at that level. In my first game with Nacho, I had an erroneous town read on him. I've adjusted. Majiffy nearly got past me in the borkgame. I dunno if I've adjusted. I think so. buldermar turned me into a freakin project in the BSG game. I won't know if I've adjusted until I play in a game where he is scum. I haven't played a game with you as town here so neither of us have a MS baseline.

You're pushing me for a town read on you. I still have a ton of adrenaline to get out of my system. You're not going to get one until and unless I'm comfortable you are town. Or not. In the meanwhile, I'm backing off until I am comfortable. Maybe we both need a little space.

[²]

And that's it from me on this shit for now.

- f

[Nachomamma8]

Do you wanna post on everything else?

[²]

Do you wanna post on everything else?

Yes. I'm going back however many pages and reading what was happening around this crap.

[Nachomamma8]

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

when is the last time you read me as scum in game where I wasn't? you usually swat me aside with no worry cos you read me as town and I am the one who is trying to push for a solid town read.

on this site you have said that your playstyle is different and I have been trying to give you room

what part of that do you not understand. <----- do you see what I had to do right then I had to repeat myself AGAIN and I swear I think that I would not have to repeat myself THIS MUCH if you were town.

I don't know what you expect as an answer. I am what I am. My reactions are what they are.

I think you expect me to be playing here at MS at the level I was playing when I essentially stopped playing elsewhere

.

except...I don't. that is why I have repeatedly said THAT I WAS GIVING YOU ROOM TO ADJUST TO A DIFFERENT PLAYSTYLE WHICH IS WHY YOU VOTED ME. YOU SAID THAT I WOULD NOT DO THAT IF I WERE TOWN AND I SAID YES I WOULD COS I SAID SO IN THE PJ GAME.

do you see how this does not add up?

Given the environment here - the fact that players I have some meta on (and in many cases a ton of meta) are playing against a backdrop of unknown players moving in patterns I don't know yet - I am not playing at that level. In my first game with Nacho, I had an erroneous town read on him. I've adjusted. Majiffy nearly got past me in the borkgame. I dunno if I've adjusted. I think so. buldermar turned me into a freakin project in the BSG game. I won't know if I've adjusted until I play in a game where he is scum. I haven't played a game with you as town here so neither of us have a MS baseline.

You're pushing me for a town read on you. I still have a ton of adrenaline to get out of my system. You're not going to get one until and unless I'm comfortable you are town. Or not. In the meanwhile, I'm backing off until I am comfortable. Maybe we both need a little space.

okay

probably would have fitted your purposes earlier WHEN I SAID I WAS GIVING YOU SPACE <----- do you see how much I need to repeat this? this is why the progression of your read looks forced. you are worrying about what you look like and

that is not town fery that is scum fery

I am waiting for majiffy to catch up

[Nachomamma8]

mollie let's talk about my other reads for a minute.
i'm holding my tongue about 2 because I want to give time for people in my middle road to check in and this is definitely going to be revisited when i come back.

[Nachomamma8]

but I can tell already that i probably won't enjoy lynching 2-scum as much as i would lynch buldey-scum, so my aggression levels will probably be off the charts when buldey comes in and can handle it.

[²]

I like where mac's head is at

You still feel this way? I remember thinking that Mac was asking peripheral questions.

[²]

1+1=sven

This is my kind of math.

Miller-tracker in non-bastard game? Eh... I really don't like it at all. One part is always mafia (red investigation) and the other is mafia-capable (tracker). But, at the same time, I really think this is the better vote.


VOTE: TiphaineDeath

Too many bad posts. Voting Nacho immediately because no scum would ever miller claim? Bad. If you don't think scum would do it, they'll try it. Unvoting with "Huh, interesting". Also bad. Bad scum must die, and I wish I could do math with that name but I can't.

I can hardly do math anyways.

Too many? More than two?

Why are we still on the Miller/tracker thing and not lynching scum TD? I am very mildly put off that we have yet to focus the minute attention needed to lynch that motherfucker.

Let's face it, TD is scum. If you want Sven to be scum in your happy world, that's fine, too. But confirmed scum die first.

Maybe you could make a bit more of a case.

[Ghostlin]

Up to Page 10:
Var #136: That usually means there's a 50/50 chance you ain't town
Sven #139: Why would you ask the first question?
Orc #141: Yes. I will lynch half a dozen reaction test guy with you too. I fucking hate reaction tests.
Sven #149: If you've ever played with Nacho he's not acutally 'being bad at this' right now.
Orc #158: GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
Mac #161: This is true of almost every claim. If you're townie, you get killed. It's why Townie's can't afford to let themselves die. Why did you feel the need to post this?
TD #168: Someone asked you a question. Please answer the question. Plus, why did you feel the need to post this?
Mac #177: WIFOM is bad, but you not giving any sort of read is more bad. (Badder?)
Mac #179: You going to be this lazy during the game? Let me know know so I can vote you.
Fuck it.

Vote: Mac

\Sven, 187: WHY WOULD YOU FULLCLAIM NOW?
Mac, 188: ....Yeah, I still like my vote on you.
Sajin, 190: Was this an RVS or a serious vote?
Andrus, 199: GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
AJ, 201: The bad: You bothered to do setup speculation in a Large Theme. The good: The TD vote isn't bad if albeit predictable.
Sajin, 202: Seeing this is not a bastard, what's the use of this question?
Varsoon, 210: I don't like this post. I think it's the whole 'gee, it'll be hard to find scum' and the 'flipping based on information' bits.
Sajin, 232: I don't think you understand what the word 'Miller' means...
GIF, 239: Not sold on that.
GIF, 246: *Groans. Expects some sort of labyrinthine reasoning involving a scum slip, or simply not reading the thread.*