Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[orcinus_theoriginal]

do you think Nacho/mollie and others who regularly play with you would be able to differentiate your town game from your scum game?

Well I wouldn't know

I hope not

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i would be suprised if varsoon was scum

i would be very suprised if orc was scum

so can we shift focus.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i would be suprised if varsoon was scum

i would be very suprised if orc was scum

so can we shift focus.

Do you see his explanation for the sheeping Aj remark

"I was trying to get a reaction"

and yet he doesn't bring it up until now?

Like

hello?

[Mac]

i would be suprised if varsoon was scum

i would be very suprised if orc was scum

so can we shift focus.

what part of ghost's catchup did you not like?

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beauty and the beast, start signing your post.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh yeah Mac is town

Sven how do you not tell them apart?

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i would be suprised if varsoon was scum

i would be very suprised if orc was scum

so can we shift focus.

Do you see his explanation for the sheeping Aj remark

"I was trying to get a reaction"

and yet he doesn't bring it up until now?

Like

hello?

i remember that from somewhere else.

i also remember you promising to vote him if he did it this game, so i guess its okay.

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i would be suprised if varsoon was scum

i would be very suprised if orc was scum

so can we shift focus.

what part of ghost's catchup did you not like?

the superficial structure, the easy reads allready stated not contrubuting to anything

easy for scum to make

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Oh yeah Mac is town

Sven how do you not tell them apart?

i dont want to haave to tell them apart, they should sign their fucking posts.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh yeah let me just explain my history with varsoon.

We played together in Selkies' first game, Borkgame. Varsoon and scum-Majiffy made cases on us, and Varsoon consistently deflected my responses to his case. When we called him out for some of his scummy actions, he said that they were reaction tests, and that he purposely did them so that he could determine alliances.

Now obviously this makes no sense. If you put something scummy in your post, you expect to be called out for it. It's retarded. In this game, if you put something scummy and off-color like "I'm sheeping Aj" in your post, you are going to be called out for it, by town and scum alike.

Varsoon was lynched d2 in borkgame. Which is why I made my 141.

I'll claim town,
hey guys.

If you pull a dozen half assed 'reaction tests' again

I will make sure you are today's lynch

I do not give a shit about meta

I am not kidding

Oh, that's what I did in a different game. Don't worry so much about that, Orcinus. I'll be playing pretty regular town today with a bit of sleuthing if I find time for it.

So I find Varsoon's defense for "sheeping aj" scummy for the same reasons again. However, I would like to add to this that even AFTER varsoon said that he wouldn't do that shit again, he did.

So this is scum making excuses.

His case on me reminded me a bit of borkgame which was why I townread him for a bit but this is too much.

Happy wagoning.

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i think the fact that varsoon goes up against you speaks in his favor.

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without having zero knowledge of his case lol

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Mac, why haven't you replied to ghost's catchup given that he scumread you in it...?

Pedit: Not really. If I'm right and all four of me/nacho/moljiffy/2 are town, scum need to break that group or at least scumread some members of it

[Varsoon]

Keeping my vote where it is.


Also,
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Miller

Wiki says that a Miller claim D1 is an approach, which makes me think it's a common enough thing.


Copied the post list, sorry about having feryllt in there.
Although, you should be aware of my own position regarding Hydras--I don't know who make them up.


WIFOM: Any reasoning can be argued as 'fake' reasoning for scum to push a town wagon. You can paint things whatever way you want to, but at the end of the day, I feel that the reasons I had for voting TD were sound, as town.

There's a difference between confidence and what's going on in your posts.

"Anyone decently experienced in mafia knows what a miller is"
I don't. Well, didn't.
Also, what was that thing you said about absolutes?

Holding to the same reasons I had in 684.
I'll put my vote elsewhere when I feel stronger about another one of my scum-suspects.
I'm interested to see how you play from here until the end of D1.


P-EDIT:

Orc's gonna Orc, I suppose.

@Sven: I agree. You think Ghostlin's a good candidate?

@Mac: Previous scum games for me? Only in http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=27133 and http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=28111. So far, I've just tried to play really hard town as scum, whereas, with town, I've been trying different approaches on this site. Orc's not that happy with one of my approaches, because it scares him. Also, because he pressured the -same- wagon on me before and he's thinking maybe this time it's gonna flip him a -different- result. Regardless, I would care less about how anyone, especially me, has played before this game. What's important is what I've done in this game alone. That'll let you know what my true alignment is, even before the flip.

@Orc: Hehehe, because if I said I was trying to get a reaction back then, it wouldn't really be a genuine test, would it? There's times when this is obvious, and others when it is bullshit. Me, making a good case for my TD vote and then adding that I'm sheeping AJ? No one should even question that.
Honestly, if everything that you post isn't an attempt to get other players to respond in some way, then you're playing the game in a way that isn't very constructive. Don't get all upset just because you've bought tickets to the ruse cruise.

P-P-Edit:
Orc, you're delightful, but that's the weakest attack you could have made on me. "It doesn't make any logical sense and he flipped town D2 in the other game!! Lynch him!"
Garsh, you know how to flatter a boy.

[Varsoon]

i think the fact that varsoon goes up against you speaks in his favor.

My case is crap, don't worry about it.
I just wanna see what Orc has to say.

Guess Orc's town, given the responses. I don't wanna let up that easily, though, you know?

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varsoon, ghostlin is a good candidate for what? lynch? I am voting him so that should answer your question

edit, wtf varsoon

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i think the fact that varsoon goes up against you speaks in his favor.

My case is crap, don't worry about it.
I just wanna see what Orc has to say.

Guess Orc's town, given the responses. I don't wanna let up that easily, though, you know?

what

what

Sven you can really sheep me now

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Orc, you're delightful, but that's the weakest attack you could have made on me. "It doesn't make any logical sense and he flipped town D2 in the other game!! Lynch him!"
Garsh, you know how to flatter a boy.

this is not what I said?

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no i dont know, since he was really fucking town on page 5... so why not go after targets that doesnt seem to be town.

orc, i will have to read up, i havent yet.

[Varsoon]

varsoon, ghostlin is a good candidate for what? lynch? I am voting him so that should answer your question

edit, wtf varsoon

I'm a madman.


Honestly, I've got to make plays so that my wildcard reads can be put in scum or town buckets.


I think that ghost could be a good vote. Do you think our vote pressure would drive ghost to respond in interesting ways?
VOTE: Ghostlin

[Varsoon]

Orc, you're delightful, but that's the weakest attack you could have made on me. "It doesn't make any logical sense and he flipped town D2 in the other game!! Lynch him!"
Garsh, you know how to flatter a boy.

this is not what I said?

Oh, so it's okay for you to misrep people but when they do it to you, it's not so fun?

You get all red and stingy when people poke you, you know that?

[Varsoon]

Seriously, though. Orc, stop posting a thousand times.
You can walk away from the phone/computer and do other things for awhile. Not every response needs to be responded to.
Calm your titties.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Why would you /state/ that you're pressuring ghost? Pressure only comes when people think you

actually find them scummy.

grarghu

Orc, you're delightful, but that's the weakest attack you could have made on me. "It doesn't make any logical sense and he flipped town D2 in the other game!! Lynch him!"
Garsh, you know how to flatter a boy.

this is not what I said?

Oh, so it's okay for you to misrep people but when they do it to you, it's not so fun?

You get all red and stingy when people poke you, you know that?

So we learn a few things from this post

1). Deliberate misrep by Varsoon
2). Apparently I misrep people so why haven't you called me out for it?

[Mac]

Mac, why haven't you replied to ghost's catchup given that he scumread you in it...?

Pedit: Not really. If I'm right and all four of me/nacho/moljiffy/2 are town, scum need to break that group or at least scumread some members of it

didn't really need to feel the need too. considering he is apparently voting me for being lazy rather than actually being scum. lazy does not equate to scum. he doesn't point to anything that makes me lazy scum over lazy town.

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varsoon, ghostlin is a good candidate for what? lynch? I am voting him so that should answer your question

edit, wtf varsoon

I'm a madman.


Honestly, I've got to make plays so that my wildcard reads can be put in scum or town buckets.


I think that ghost could be a good vote. Do you think our vote pressure would drive ghost to respond in interesting ways?
VOTE: Ghostlin

"do i think our vote pressure would drive ghost to respond in interesting ways?"

you sound like a robot and you sound very fake.