Mini 1451: A Memory of Light (Game Over)

[Nero Cain]

Amrun, what are your Milkshake and Amrun reads?

[Nero Cain]

Amrun, what are your Milkshake and Amrun reads?

[Amrun]

UM

Which one of those aren't supposed to say Amrun?

[Nero Cain]

Amrun, what are your Milkshake and SOO reads?

[Amrun]

Demon, I will let the other head address your question.

Amrun! I looked over it again, and I was in fact... sniffing glue. Still think your case is/was silly on Ghost for the record. What I really didn't understand was how you got to the conclusion that he was treating Milk as town while saying he wasn't town... until you explained it. You really haven't seen scum sheep?

that there was actually a possibility of you being that stupid

But that is neither here nor there.

Can anyone else confirm if Amrun normally is in rage-mode all the time as town? If no one answers/knows I will go meta myself, just don't have time at the moment.

It's not about scum sheeping, it's about how he chose to phrase it, and quite honestly, no, I have very rarely seen scum sheep onto a SCUM wagon. (Onto town? Definitely. That's my point.)

As for rage mode, you can meta, and you will certainly find rage in some places and not in others. As I mentioned earlier, my play changes with my mood which I let happen quite deliberately for meta reasons.

I have been especially rage-y lately 'cause stress from moving cross country (I do it so much I should be used to it by now) and because what you may interpret as rage is actually just me having fun. (Curse words aren't meant offensively, I promise.)

No, I'm not AFRAID to back off. I just don't play on this basic abc level where everything is fucking literal.

I didn't want to give the impression that I changed my mind for a multitude of reasons, notably because scum is a lot more likely to kill a universal townread that they probably realize is a pr but may be inclined to keep him alive if the most active player still suspects him. I was TRYING to distract scum from his obvious hints and it had a chance of working until he decided to freaking announce it.

Pretending that seeing breadcrumbs and making them EVEN MORE OBVIOUS is a TOWN move is also ridiculous. Scum has no motivation to push on someone who is obviously a pr (they won't get lynched in the end and they are afraid of being openly "wrong," but being right and calling him town early makes them look good) but has every motivation to make it more obvious and not obfuscate it when they see it.

There is a middle ground between sledging someone into claiming and crowning them most obvtown player in the game.

- fferyllt

dammit

I didn't even remotely "sledge someone into claiming." I voted for him and continued to engage him, as anyone should do to someone they suspect/are voting/etc. He was several -- let me repeat,

several

-- votes away from L-1 and I never once asked him to claim or mentioned his role in any way. I was also talking to other people, and the only reason I was talking to him more than others is because he is just about the only other person in this game who posts regularly, and you're #3.

p-edit:

I have a town read on milkshake. Not TOWNTOWNTOWN, but town. Sword I am much closer to null, but if forced at gunpoint to pick, I'd say leaning town.

[Selkies]

I'm not sure you know what the term "sledge" means. It has nothing to do with the number of votes.

- fferyllt

[Amrun]

I never implied that it did.

[milkshake]

UNVOTE: Ghostlin unvote unvote

[ThAdmiral]

vote: amrum

my god do you ever shut up?

[Belisarius]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ThAdmiral

What's wrong with talking a lot?

[milkshake]

In my eyes:

Amrun: Town
Ghostlin: Town
Selkies: Town
MattP: Actually leaning town now
GoodCop_BadCop: Leaning scum
ThAdmiral: Also leaning scum
Demon: I don't know
Iecerint: Don't know
Miss Destroyer: I don't know
Belisarius: Oddly enough a slight scum read, I didn't really like the way in which he agreed with me that Ghostlin was scum.
Nero Cain: Town?
Sword_Of_Omens: Town?

[Selkies]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ThAdmiral

What's wrong with talking a lot?

This is almost RVSy

But anyways, Amrun, Milkshake, and Ghostlin are solid town.

Can we just lynch Beli now

[Selkies]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ThAdmiral

What's wrong with talking a lot?

This is almost RVSy

But anyways, Amrun, Milkshake, and Ghostlin are solid town.

Can we just lynch Beli now

[Selkies]

oh yeah, fery and I just talked. we should also be looking at Miss Destroyer, they're cruising.

[ThAdmiral]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ThAdmiral

What's wrong with talking a lot?

Me having to read it.

[Belisarius]

This is almost RVS

Reacting to a scummy action with a vote is not RVS. RVS is voting for no real reason. This is voting for someone who is trying to shut down discussion, and discussion is needed to find scum.

Amrun's verbosity makes her easier to read. I like easy to read. I will not be voting to lynch Amrun anytime soon specifically because of the end result of her large amount of posts.

[Amrun]

VOTE: ThAdmiral

Do something and stop bitching. You're capable of so much better, and I know it, which leads me to believe you're scum stalling and trying to shut down. This is NOT something I recall from your town playstyle.

[Ghostlin]

oh yeah, fery and I just talked. we should also be looking at Miss Destroyer, they're cruising.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ThAdmiral

What's wrong with talking a lot?

This is almost RVSy

But anyways, Amrun, Milkshake, and Ghostlin are solid town.

Can we just lynch Beli now

It's scary how I agree with both of these. Also liking Amrun's push on Ad.

Unvote, Vote: Beliscum

[Ghostlin]

Reacting to a scummy action with a vote is not RVS. RVS is voting for no real reason. This is voting for someone who is trying to shut down discussion, and discussion is needed to find scum.

Amrun's verbosity makes her easier to read. I like easy to read. I will not be voting to lynch Amrun anytime soon specifically because of the end result of her large amount of posts.

This is really lazy reasoning. I would of accepted this on Page 5, but not Page 20+ Day 1 of an ongoing game.

[Ghostlin]

Alright. It's only page 18. 443 is still fucking valid.

[Iecerint]

SoO, any reason you didn't lay down a vote last time?

[ThAdmiral]

I'm leaving my vote where it is. I want to see if anyone else votes me.

[Demon]

MattP: Actually leaning town now

Why... point out specific posts if you can.

Thad your vote is boring as hell, since a majority is townreading amrun you're not going to go anywhere unless you actually attach something substantial.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Other head here again. One of my games ended finally, so I’ll be much more active.

Post 15 was prior to game's start. Amrun, why are you (and Demon same question, really) using pre-game jokes as a way to try and build a serious case on Selkies?

Can you point out one instance where I've used the "pre-game joke" as a driving point in Selkies-scum?

Demon, I’m a dumbass who should no longer post while hungover. To clarify, I meant to ask you why you brought that post up, not why you were using it to push a case. I did you wrong there and I apologize for that. Your reply seems town-ish, so that’s a win after all from my stupid question.

I’m currently using my newfound time to do some meta reads of Beli and Milk, if nothing else, I read fast, so Expect some findings/results/etc soon.
Also for the record, milk, second request for you to link us some of your past games as scum/town. If you refuse, I’ll have to go through your entire posting history, and that doesn’t really help anyone, now does it?
Beli I don’t have a solid read on yet, other head might, will confer, but I’d like to meta-read him as well.

[milkshake]

As I mentioned, I think GoodCop_BadCop and ThAdmiral are scum. However, I am a little worried that might be because of their abrasive posting styles and not because of their actual alignment.

Belis, on the other hand, has a totally OK posting style. But I have a few questions about his alignment. Although he said logical things not so related to people's alignments, his vote on Ghostlin wasn't too well justified. He does seem to be cruising a bit and only "taking potshots from the sidelines" as one person mentioned already.

VOTE: Belisarius

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ThAdmiral

What's wrong with talking a lot?

Anyone else getting bussing vibes from this?