Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[Varsoon]

Oh, you don't have to be GiF to ask me questions, other people, feel free to step up and confirm me as something.

[GuyInFreezer]

r u gonna be around after 3 hrs? We'll start talking then.

[TiphaineDeath]

Classic backing down in response to reverse pressure, lynch this scum please.

[Nachomamma8]

TD lurk more so I can defend you better.

[²]

Nacho, re your AJ read. Are there some meta reasons or is it based entirely on his in-thread posts? I picked up the idea that there is meta somehow.

Part meta, mostly in thread. I'd like to keep the meta part to myself.

Reading his posts takes about a minute and a half. He looked like he was setting up to tunnel TD, but branched out to questioning others in his last couple of posts. He disagreed with you about TD and didn't back down. And there's that t v t thing that you didn't like.

Aside from feeling that he's a little more aggressive than I'd expect for a really low-volume poster he's not standing out.

[Varsoon]

r u gonna be around after 3 hrs? We'll start talking then.

I should be, yeah.

Classic backing down in response to reverse pressure, lynch this scum please.

Oho? I suppose if I said that your reply was in-line with what I thought scum TD would say, it'd be classic scum OMGUS, right?

Don't like how you're painting my posts as scum, but it's fine. You're letting yourself lean for me. Keep making posts of this quality, so I can get a more absolute read. :3

[Varsoon]

r u gonna be around after 3 hrs? We'll start talking then.

I should be, yeah.

Classic backing down in response to reverse pressure, lynch this scum please.

Oho? I suppose if I said that your reply was in-line with what I thought scum TD would say, it'd be classic scum OMGUS, right?

Don't like how you're painting my posts as scum, but it's fine. You're letting yourself lean for me. Keep making posts of this quality, so I can get a more absolute read. :3

[Varsoon]

Alas, the fated double-post, saying what I said twice.


Also, every time I come in this thread, everyone shuts up. I guess if I stay here, it'll keep Orc from gabbing off.

[Nachomamma8]

GIF's flip on his townread of me is neat.
Seems like Nacho is ready to flip how he feels, depending on things.

I still have a townread on you. But if GiF sees something, then I'm not just going to ignore it. I'm guessing most people are going to pick up false positives on you, but if I want to defend you, I want you to actually be town. GiF is our designated tunneler for finding out if you're worthy to join our club or not.

[Nachomamma8]

I mean, you know how it is. Remember that newbie game we played together when I went completely off on you? The kind of reads I like to have are the ones I can happily bring to the grave with me.

[Varsoon]

I mean, you know how it is. Remember that newbie game we played together when I went completely off on you? The kind of reads I like to have are the ones I can happily bring to the grave with me.

Fair enough, to this and your previous post.
GIF's been pretty good at reading me.
And duping me, too. D:

Nacho, who do you have as town and scum, so far?

[Nachomamma8]

3. Andrius
4. BeautyAndTheBeast (Majiffy + pirate mollie)
5. BROseidon
6. Cabd
9. GuyInFreezer
11. Mac
13. orcinus_theoriginal
14. RachMarie
15. Sajin
18. TiphaineDeath
20. Varsoon

11/20 townreads

AJ, 2, sven, and TMTOLBTWNTOF are all scumreads.
Rest are all mostly null.

[TiphaineDeath]

I will not lurk X_X.

No actually varsoon if you had continued to push me after that post of mine I would have felt much less certain of my read on you.

See when I specifically tell you doing something would be omgus, i.e something generally considered anti town and bad, if you are willing to do it anyway that probably means your read is real and you honestly believe me to be scum. When I confront you with that obvious setback and you drop it, it feels like either your read was weak in the first place or your read was fake. I'm going for option two here.

[Nachomamma8]

...this thread exploded.
I'll catchup manana, focusing on another game before sleep tonight.

Andyyyyy

[Varsoon]

I will not lurk X_X.

No actually varsoon if you had continued to push me after that post of mine I would have felt much less certain of my read on you.

See when I specifically tell you doing something would be omgus, i.e something generally considered anti town and bad, if you are willing to do it anyway that probably means your read is real and you honestly believe me to be scum. When I confront you with that obvious setback and you drop it, it feels like either your read was weak in the first place or your read was fake. I'm going for option two here.

I'm glad there's not the third option where I put a vote on you to see what you'd say about it, then felt what you had to say about it was pretty genuinely town.


@Nacho: I agree with you on AJ and 2, but why is TMTOLBTWNTOF scum?

[Varsoon]

B-sides, there's other wagons I'm more interested in, TD.

[²]

Town: orcinus, nacho, B&B, BRO

Leaning town:
svenskt (for today - pretty sure this is my view only , not buldermar's)
Andreius
GiF (that was a weird thing about the chat game, though)
Cabd (in part based on nacho and to a lesser extent Rach)

Null/Town:
Rach (always and forever I swear)
Varsoon
Ghostlin (this read could slide)
Mac

Leaning Scum:
TD (buldermar's read mostly)
TMTwhatev
Maybe AJ

Not enough info to go on: Sajin, dntfkingcare, Metal Sonic, jon_h61

This is not a consensus list (yet anyway), but some of my views are influenced by buldermar's opinions.

[TiphaineDeath]

Your sarcasm tastes like foot, and an iso confirms :/.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Ghostlin

[Varsoon]

@2: Thanks for the list. Could you articulate why you think these more active players are town and these less active ones are scum?

@TD: Why the ghostlin vote?

[Nachomamma8]

F, same question to you as I asked buldey. Are you reading the mollie head as town?

[TiphaineDeath]

His catchup posts feel like they are all made of sheeping other people already stated opinions. Don't like it.

[Nachomamma8]

F, same question to you as I asked buldey. Are you reading the mollie head as town?

Also this TD townread is easy as shit. Tell buldey to get his act together on it.

[Varsoon]

His catchup posts feel like they are all made of sheeping other people already stated opinions. Don't like it.

Do you think it's worth sheeping other people if they have a good case on someone or should your own vote always be founded on your own logic, rather than resting on that of others'?

Regardless, I agree, Ghostlin is a weak slot right now. I'm just twiddling my thumbs and waiting for more posts out of 'm.

[TiphaineDeath]

Your vote should always be founded on your own logic, if your own logic agrees with someone elses, is their logic makes you change yours, fine. But sheeping as pure sheeping IMO has always been and will always be wrong.

[Ghostlin]

Up to page 20-21. There's a lot of omission here because there's a lot of meta talk here that I don't understand, bluntly.

278, TD: “My thought process here is pretty simple guys, I voted nacho because he felt opportunistic springing on something I'd never seen happen before, but have seen scum try to get a lynch out of. He proved me wrong, so I unvoted. Now I am going to revote because of the wifom shitstorm that sven has created. “ Speaking of WIFOM...this entire post is full of it. If claiming Miller early Day 1 is part of the meta, don't you think scum wouldn't of cottoned on to it?

288, Mac: ….why are we recycling this? If the first 20 pages are nothing but Miller spec, I'll flip a table.

291, don'tfucking: ...was there a point here?

294, Sajin: OK. You can be town. Varsoon can be scum for #247. I'm OK with both.

295-303: I fell asleep here. Nothing of value.

304, Varsoon: Yeah, you need to be lynched. He's given you plenty of things to respond to.

305-316: Scum claims aside, the even idea of RVS pressure makes me queasy. Or rather, fucking worthless.

339, don't: Stop crapping up the thread. RQS/RVS was about 10 pages ago.

340, Mac: This is another post that looks town but does nothing else. Maybe lurker pressure.

347, Mac: Yes, Nacho is town. Stop agreeing with him to look town.

356, don't: I only give a shit because you're shitting up the thread with nothing useful. “Learning curve” or no, I lynch that day 1.

358, BB: Don't understand your GIF and Mac reads here. Elaborate, please?

376, Rach: Next person who setup specs gets slapped. Fair warning. Elaborate on your reads a touch?

393, Mac: Scum are less likely to NK until too late for Sven, there's just too much crap there unless they need an easy lynch to end the day. I don't understand your question to Orc...are you pushing the fact that they can be lynched later?

398, Rach: Your confusion is understandable. Read 393 above.

450, AJ: Um...why aren't we lynching Mac? I mean, TD's horrible and all, but there's Mac...

477, GIF: “Fearvote?” What do you mean, fearvote?

Scum: Mac, Varsoon, don't, TD, T+random letters and all caps