Newbie 1367: Maestro's Newbie Newbie (SCUM WIN!)

[Maestro]

thanking Arceus

is this a new thing for Pokemon fans or something?

[Cabd]

^I'm not religious, and people get all pissy on certain sites I frequent where an athiest DARE use the word god, so it's just a reflexive thing now I use to make fun of them.

[Shadi1337]

While spectating the game I became pretty damn sure of Cabd and would have voted him over a million times.
Then when JMO started acting differently I got onto him but I thought Irish was his scum buddy.

So yeah, got half of the team

gg guys!

[Shadi1337]

Oh yeah, reason for me being the R1 kill? Just out of curiosity.

[Cabd]

^We killed you night one because we wanted somebody who wouldn't get hit by the doc OR was said to be scum by the dead townie that flipped D1.

[TheEsquire]

Well, TIP. Now you know why you never vote until after some serious discussion in Ly-Lo. Ly-Lo means that once one vote is placed, if it's correctly on scum, a coordinated scum team can insta-win. Just keep that in mind for the future. Sure, I'll be angry tonight, but come tomorrow I'll forgive you. Hopefully I see you out there soon again

Also, I really do have to apologize for having to ditch the game for almost a week early on

PEDIT: Ehhhhh, Day 1 is a finicky thing. In my experiences people don't tend to latch on to their reads so hard from D1 so I didn't read so much into it. I'll have to look at the "scumslip" again to have a look at it in hindsight.

Also, the "you're killing me" post? I knew something was off with it. It sounded like something I would say to myself as I quickhammered XD

[Cabd]

You meant if places quickly on town. But yes. NEVER EVER EVER vote early in lylo short of confirmed seer read.

[TheEsquire]

You meant if places quickly on town. But yes. NEVER EVER EVER vote early in lylo short of confirmed seer read.

Err, yes. I meant "unless correctly placed on scum" there. Oops!

[jmo16mla]

Plus the addition of wifom. You weren't obv town or scummy. Kslam thought you were scum, so I felt like throwing him off a little too.

[TheIrishPope]

I thought I was sure about my read
Silly brain trying to fool me

[Klazam]

[Ms Marangal]

I was surprised to see Klazam flip town TBQH. I didn't really put much stock in C scum because of the fact that he was fairly pro-town. those who did think he was scum didn't do that good a job in presenting a case against him which I think would have changed the game significantly.

[TheIrishPope]

Klazam just wiped his hands off this game, mainly due to frustration I guess.
Sorry about pushing you.

[TheEsquire]

I was surprised to see Klazam flip town TBQH. I didn't really put much stock in C scum because of the fact that he was fairly pro-town. those who did think he was scum didn't do that good a job in presenting a case against him which I think would have changed the game significantly.

That's been my biggest problem, both in mafia AND in RL. I can't argue a case worth shit, and any points or reads I try to make are always called "scummy" and gets the finger pointed at me. It's been a reflex for me to just try and keep my mouth shut now. I seem to live much longer.

[TheEsquire]

Also, I wasn't given much time to present my case against Cabd. I didn't suspect him until right before the end of day 2, and day 3 ended before I could get much of a word out

[Cabd]

This is my second perfect scum win, will be proud to add this to my coffers.

[Cabd]

Although to be fair, the first setup it happened in was 20 players and slightly scum favoring (5/15 with town cop, doc, RB, vig, 2 neighbors VS 1-shot strongman godfather 4 vanilla wolves)

[Cabd]

Hey klaz, why did you give up on the mara case? I was kinda hoping you'd post it tbh.

[Ms Marangal]

actually, that looks fairly balanced to me, if not a tad bit town sided

[Cabd]

actually, that looks fairly balanced to me, if not a tad bit town sided

Really? BBmola told me it was scum-favoring by a large amount.

[Cabd]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p4855623

[Shadi1337]

Plus the addition of wifom. You weren't obv town or scummy. Kslam thought you were scum, so I felt like throwing him off a little too.

Good thought.

[TheEsquire]

The number of scum looks high, but the ratio is usually about 4T:1S to my knowledge. It looks like there's quite a number of power roles for town though and they can swing the balance quite bad. If the mafioso used his strongman too early and the cop and doc were still around, the pair can pick the mafia apart if the cops claims

[Cabd]

I was the strongman and used it N3? N4? Cop was the NK night two, he crumbed HARD day two and my scumbuddy picked up onit.

But hey Laz, your reaction was great to Irish, as JMO said. Thanks for that.

[TheEsquire]

Oh, if you got the Cop already then there isn't a worry. But that's the thing: you HAVE to get the cop