Newbie 1351: Hyrule's Under Attack.. Interesting..-GAME OVER

Mac · Post Post #2425 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 12:36 pm

Are you guys suggesting that, under no real pressure, VE initiated a massclaim and went for doctor? That doesn't make sense from a scumpov to me.

goodmorning · Post Post #2426 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 1:42 pm

I still think it's you, but as both Z and Ine have mentioned wanting to lynch a PR claim I thought I might mention that VE's claim is way more sketch than mine.

It makes sense as a gambit, especially in a setting like this. Besides, if you're the doc do you

want

people to know who you are?

TraceyLyn11 · Post Post #2427 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:41 pm

VOTE COUNT 3.3

[L-4] Z7-852:

[L-4] fferyllt:

[L-2] Mac: (Ineffective, goodmorning)

[L-4] Ineffective:

[L-3] VisceraEyes: (Z7-852)

[L-2] goodmorning: (VisceraEyes, Mac)

Not Voting:

1 (fferyllt)

With six alive, it takes four to lynch.
Day Three's deadline: June 05, 2013 CST or in (expired on 2013-06-05 00:00:00).
V/LA: No one.

fferyllt · Post Post #2428 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:52 pm

yeah I'm totally on the fence.

goodmorning · Post Post #2429 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:59 pm

Between me and...?

fferyllt · Post Post #2430 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 6:56 pm

totally depends on when you ask me.

Mac · Post Post #2431 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 2:20 am

I'm not sure what you mean fferyl.

@mod - prod VE?

fferyllt · Post Post #2432 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 4:06 am

I was being only a little facetious. I'm going round and round over GM and you, with the occasional fit of paranoia about Eff or VE.

Mac · Post Post #2433 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 4:21 am

I see, I see.

I still think I've made good points on why GM is scum, and she hasn't really done anything to refute it. Other than try and plant seeds about VE possibly faking his claim. Which I didn't like.

fferyllt · Post Post #2434 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 4:35 am

Yeah, I agree that you've made good points and her response has been meh.

That's going up against my personal bias toward preserving/protecting PRs as town. Not that I never go against the bias.

These kinds of dilemmas are so much easier to deal with in games with short days. Time pressure helps. Anyway, I'm closing in on a decision.

Mac · Post Post #2435 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 4:43 am

I'm also one who tends to protect PRs but her claim is pretty much full of holes which makes me feel it's forced. :/

Agree with the short days comment too, but I guess that's just the way it is here.

goodmorning · Post Post #2436 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 5:04 am

In post 2434, fferyllt wrote:Yeah, I agree that you've made good points and her response has been meh.

If someone could point out these good points? I certainly haven't seen any.

fferyllt · Post Post #2437 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 6:57 am

In post 2426, goodmorning wrote:I still think it's you, but as both Z and Ine have mentioned wanting to lynch a PR claim I thought I might mention that VE's claim is way more sketch than mine.

It makes sense as a gambit, especially in a setting like this. Besides, if you're the doc do you
want
people to know who you are?

Hilarious that you're using Z7's rationale as support for poking at VE's claim.

goodmorning · Post Post #2438 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 7:02 am

Repeat: I am not interested in the lynch of any PR claims. I simply am attempting to say that there are those who are and to those I would state that VE is a better lynch than I am.
That is not me saying he's a good lynch.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #2439 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 11:23 am

My claim isn't sketch YOU'RE sketch. X(

Sketchy McSketcherson. Whatever.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #2440 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 11:37 am

In post 2420, fferyllt wrote:GM is at L-2 and I am willing to vote her.

I want to talk about what town does next if she flips town.
If there is a day 4 it looks to me like it will be a mess because to the extent there is a town core it's pretty tattered. That worries me.

If she flips town then we're what

4v1.
Nightkill- 3v1 - MYLO: Probably no-lynch in this situation?
Nightkill- 2v1 - LYLO

Presuming scum no-kills or successful save tonight then we're at

4v1 - Policy VE lynch
3v1 - Night Kill/No Kill
2v1/3v1 - LYLO/MYLO

We should policy lynch me if there's no kill information tonight just so I'm off the table for discussion. Otherwise I'll probably be killed and you won't have to worry about it. That will leave from most want to lynch to least:

Mac>Inef>Z>feryl.

I'm interested to hear what Z has to say once he can't say anything at all about me...you guys should pay close attention when that time comes and adjust your reads accordingly.

fferyllt · Post Post #2441 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 11:44 am

If we lynch GM and she flips town, I will probably want to lynch Mac next if I am alive to push it.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #2442 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 11:44 am

And feryl - I trust that on PLVE Day you'll be around with me to figure out the last scum? If it's you then I'm gonna make you work for it.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #2443 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 11:45 am

I'm only interested in PLing me if we're at 4v1 during a day cycle. Not having me around to wonder about is going to be key in that situation I think - there's already too much doubt about me in this thread.

fferyllt · Post Post #2444 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 11:47 am

In post 2442, VisceraEyes wrote:And feryl - I trust that on PLVE Day you'll be around with me to figure out the last scum? If it's you then I'm gonna make you work for it.

I feel like my sell-by date has expired. I don't expect to be around for that discussion if town hasn't won this by then. I want to get this right today.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #2445 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 11:48 am

Look at it this way: you're not going to die as long as I'm alive.

Mac · Post Post #2446 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 11:55 am

the thing that worries me at 3v1 mylo... assuming GM is town & you are the doc you are likely to die & then no lynching means the loss of fferyl. assuming she is town, which I'm very confident in saying.

I think in 3v1 we have to pick out the scum. no lynch means likely the loss of fferyllt and then three possible scum-candidates throughout the game in lylo.

I'm not sure if this post makes sense. I hope so.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #2447 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 1:04 pm

In post 2444, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2442, VisceraEyes wrote:And feryl - I trust that on PLVE Day you'll be around with me to figure out the last scum? If it's you then I'm gonna make you work for it.
I feel like my sell-by date has expired. I don't expect to be around for that discussion if town hasn't won this by then. I want to get this right today.

The more I look at this, the more suspicious it sounds. So in essence, unless we lynch Mac and he's scum, feryl is clocking out of the game? What kind of shit is that?

fferyllt · Post Post #2448 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 1:08 pm

In post 2447, VisceraEyes wrote:
In post 2444, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2442, VisceraEyes wrote:And feryl - I trust that on PLVE Day you'll be around with me to figure out the last scum? If it's you then I'm gonna make you work for it.
I feel like my sell-by date has expired. I don't expect to be around for that discussion if town hasn't won this by then. I want to get this right today.
The more I look at this, the more suspicious it sounds. So in essence, unless we lynch Mac and he's scum, feryl is clocking out of the game? What kind of shit is that?

Nope. not clocking out, not while I'm alive. And I'm leaning toward a GM lynch today, not Mac. But it's running up against a very heavy bias internal bias.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #2449 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2013 1:16 pm

It might have been the way you phrased it. It just sounded like you don't care anymore and want it to be over...which is the attitude scum want you to have and an attitude I have come to not expect from you over the course of the game.