Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Town
{

Nacho

,

2

,

GIF

,

Orci

,

Sven

, dfc,

AJ, Rach

, Ghostlin,

MetalSonic

}

Scum
{

Cabd

,

Tiphane

,

Mac

,

Varsoon, BROseidon

}

Updated.

[Andrius]

I like Andrius' re-entry. It's a breath of fresh air as far as reading goes, and gives pretty good insight to where Andrius is in the whole scheme of things. Town, that is.

Thank you.

Can we agree on a major scum-suspect for D1? We've got about 12 more days left, but I'd really like to come to a common consensus on who is on the most scum-lists.

No need to rush, we have plenty of time, and players to get in here.

Why?

Because he's Ghostlin, and this is how he towns.

Cadb and Rach are both adding noise without really contributing much. Slight scumreads for both.

I'd normally agree on Rach, but apparently this is how she does so I'm willing to let this go (for now). Being all BITCH PLS POST OR DIE is silly at this point.

(Andrius convinced me that miller/tracker is PLAUSIBLE.)

Its a sign of good modding- negative utility roles for town. Millers hurt the effectiveness of Cops, etc.
Signs of a good mod- creative balancing.

Yeah feel good about Andy he can definitely stay in the town pile.

Thank you.

If I was modding a game with 20 players my setup would be likely 4-5 scum, Rach. But it could be higher, depending on how stacked town is with PRs.

No.
More than 5 scum on one team would be rough, even with :townpower:

If anything, one large team or two smaller teams.

...I hate fake dayvigs. If you're going to do it, do it where it's actually BELIEVEABLE.

Like,

DayKill: bork

is only so good. This game has flavor, so something like

Monado Buster: bork

would be more expected and legit.

Svenskt Stål has requested replacement.

...the hell
If this is his second time doing this, I'd be very wary, as a mod, to let him join my games in the future.

Somebody explain to me how the hell replacing out is a town tell, I REALLY don't see it.

Depends on circumstances.

RM still not voting frustrates me but w/e I'll deal with it.

Spoiler: long quote

@Ghost: Do you really find letters scummier than other players that you have scumreads on? Scummier than the other players who are currently under pressure? What is your current read on Varsoon?

First question: Yes and no. He's not the worst offender, no doubt about that, but he's responded pretty poorly to pressure. And no one's called him on it.

My biggest thing right now is he's posted a reads list, called a number of people varying degrees of scum and hasn't even bothered to place a single vote yet. That's not just fence sitting, that's extreme fence sitting. He should be getting an ass rash from the board so far up his butt.

He's willing to call me and others scummy, but isn't willing to back it up with any kind of stance.

And it's frustrating me that the only other player that sees it:

1) is someone I'm completely ambivalent on my read of
2) thinks I'm scum.

A lot of people on my scum list are people who are gliding through this game. I'll own that right now. I also see no need to accelerate any wagon at this point with the amount of time left in the game. And my reads haven't changed a whole lot because of that, but I'll talk about a read I'm struggling with in the next part of this post.

Question 2: Yes, Letters is scummier than most other players under pressure. He's scummier than me, for example. AJ's got a bit more history to his reads, for example, and I don't think we'll get more out of TD. (Who I don't get muitiple player's reads on, but OK.) I'm not really contemplating either hydra for scum, not a lot has stuck out about either one of them that's makes me go 'wow, that's incredibly scummy.' He may not have been worse than Sven under pressure, but Sven was the type of bad (note I didn't say scummy) that only town can be that orgasmically, horribly bad.

Question 3: Are you in for a fucking treat. I'm going to let you in my head. There are two things warring here. Town reads and scum reads.

The town reads are that Vashoon seems to be an attention whore, being in the middle of everything. He's hard to ignore (even though Orc faked shooting him) and generally if you're annoying and kind of attention whorish, you tend to be town.

The second read is his love of reaction tests. I don't like reaction tests. Generally, they crap up the thread and you lynch someone who's innocent. I can give you at least one good example of reaction test gone horribly wrong. Generally, however, the people who execute them are Town, however I'm sure scum love their fallout because there's nothing better to scum than a lynch on a player that might not fucking suck.

However, the majority of the time, they're executed by players who are predominately Town.

On the OTHER side of the street, he does things that aren't in Town's interest or don't help Town scum hunt at fucking all.

The Orc reaction test in 676, 678, 679 did nothing but confirm one player's alignment and potentially was an attempt to discredit a protown player was leading Town. Now, I'm a fan of PoE as much as the next guy, but confirming townies is not as good as finding scum. And since Orc 'passed' the test, scum know at least one protown player they can shoot at. (Also, at the end of the day, we only have Vashoon's word that pushing Orc was a reaction test.)

He went on a clip about how awesome it would be to be a dayvig--which is not right reaction to being shot. He should of posted reads. Yes, Orc's 'shot' seems a bit obvious, but why would you leave anything to fucking chance?

His last post is crap, and he's said things like 'if Ghostlin was here, I'd vote him'. When has that stopped anyone from voting anyone, particularly since the number of people who magically appear after their name is mentioned?

He is, at the moment, still leaning scum for me, but I don't think he's the play of the day unless we get closer to deadline.

Here's why: There are people who are active lurking, and lurking (and not scum hunting) that scum will happily keep around for us so we can hit conversation roadblocks and generally be as fucking useless as herpes in the last days of the game. Day 1 is a good time to find an active lurking scum and hang him, hence my obsession with that and letters.

Vashoon is unlikely to ever shut up. Particularly if it pisses off Orc, which has seemed to be the primary goal of his game up until now. I don't particularly want him around, but there are other fish we can be frying.

Ghostlin is town.

Not sure how I feel about Mac.

I don't have reads on andy and sajin because I havn't had time to look into the content of their posts, nor have I talked to f about her reads on them yet. I'm in the middle of exams and will be for the next month or so.

False, you read enough into mine to hear about the "claiming scum" deal.

Ok I was going to decide whether to claim miller or not after I'd read, but I see my predecessor already has.

Confirm I am miller.

You just scumslipped.

Am I missing something?

Here, have my flavour too... Tyrea, Colonist Aligned Miller Tracker.

First, welcome to the game.
Second, TYREA. <333

Miller claim makes sense from flavor. Tracker is eh.
The only thing that is important is she is a Miller because she tried to kill a main character in the game, but wound up helping out later on.

Yo 'Jiffy. You have a read on me yet?
Hint: I'm town; don't make me 1v1 Nacho again pls.

[Andrius]

Finally, I just received my copy of Xenoblade Chronicles in the mail today so I'll be dumping a lot of time into that. >_>

[BROseidon]

Metal Sonic may be town. 1153.

What in 1153 makes you think MS is town?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Why are people taking my Dayvig seriously

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Also why are you thanking people for townreads

Shit.

Am I being rude?

[Andrius]

No you're doing fine.
Carry on good sir.

You're fulfilling your place in the Triumvirate nicely.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Town
{

Nacho

,

2

,

GIF

,

Orci

,

Sven

, dfc,

AJ, Rach

, Ghostlin,

MetalSonic

}

Scum
{

Cabd

,

Tiphane

,

Mac

,

Varsoon, BROseidon

}

Updated.

Disagree with metal sonic, Aj, Varsoon, BRO, and Cabd

Do you want to talk about this

[TMTOLBTWNTOF]

Your predecessor claimed Miller Tracker before he went out. I could see you claiming Miller as town Miller Tracker, sure. I could not see you playing the whole "I don't care if I'm lynched today" if you were also a power role on top of the miller aspect, though. I also didn't like that you had excuses for the late Miller claim after replacing in.

Here's your explanation, Andrius.
Resolved, however.

[GuyInFreezer]

Hey TMT in case you missed it I asked you a question.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Yo 'Jiffy. You have a read on me yet?

I figured I'd leave you to Nach-

Hint: I'm town; don't make me 1v1 Nacho again pls.

No, I don't have a read on you.

What in 1153 makes you think MS is town?

The independent spirit of his reads. He's thinking for himself, and not worried about how others perceive his reads. He's also not worried about butting heads on reads or not 'going with the flow'.

Disagree with metal sonic, Aj, Varsoon, BRO, and Cabd

Do you want to talk about this

Not really.

[Aj The Epic]

Disagree with metal sonic, Aj, Varsoon, BRO, and Cabd

I mean... there's a reason those are his read...

Hey TMT, mind joining us? I seem to think you have developed a couple of votes and produced a lot more null reads last time around.

[Cabd]

@MOD V/LA until Monday, my girlfriend is moving houses and I get to help

I'm gonna have like 100 pages to catch up on by then...

[Metal Sonic]

@Metal: Do you have any reason for your anything? You've posted 0 in the way of thoughts so far.

I'll give reasons after the posting dies down. 50 pages(1000+ posts) in 72 hours, please no its torturous



2 getting scummier

aj leaning town now

ghostlin town

mac stil town

reverend a+ slip contradiction strong

beast leaning town

andrius town

also good luck with reading john or whoever had to read 50 pages

cabd and guy in freezer very town right now

[TMTOLBTWNTOF]

Hey TMT in case you missed it I asked you a question.

I missed it. Where.

Disagree with metal sonic, Aj, Varsoon, BRO, and Cabd

I mean... there's a reason those are his read...

Hey TMT, mind joining us? I seem to think you have developed a couple of votes and produced a lot more null reads last time around.

Most of my null reads are because of the fact that certain people haven't posted a lot and most of it was low-content.

Ok I've gone over my scumreads and decided which one was scummiest, and it's between 2 and Aj. At this point I believe it's VOTE: Aj

Also, Ghostlin is not scum

P-edit Metal give reasons now plz

[BROseidon]

K Metal. I would just like your reasons behind your reads once you've gotten through everything, since a few of your reads are divergent from mine, notably cabd and AJ. Maybe I'm missing something.

Still waiting on ffery's AJ case. I would really like to see that.

[Metal Sonic]

okay only 2 players i can answer that

cabd is extra town imo because his comments are helpful and opinions justified. also his avatar is cool

aj hasn't displayed anything scummy as of yet that I can see, so he will be a null-town until i can read him further but nothing extremely incriminating that I picked up on as of yet.

[BROseidon]

So if nobody displays any scummy behavior, your default on them is to describe them as null-town instead of just null?

What is your opinion of TD?

[Metal Sonic]

^Pre iso


I iso'd cabd and aj right now,

realised cabd had more fluff than originally thought there was, but still town

aj is a lot more helpful than i thought. upgraded to town

iso tiphaine now

[Metal Sonic]

ok i just iso'd tiphaine

except for #901
the rest of his posts are shit

yep scum

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

[Aj The Epic]

Ok I've gone over my scumreads and decided which one was scummiest, and it's between 2 and Aj. At this point I believe it's VOTE: Aj

This kid is so scum. I was a null read last time around, so now we don't even know his scum read. This is OMGUS until reason provided, and we'll get none. So add this guy to confirmed scum.

[Metal Sonic]

well this guy has a pretty bad name

i'll iso him

[Metal Sonic]

TMT is a null-leaning-town

except for his atrocious name

[Aj The Epic]

Well, I guess we'll have to beg to differ. He is very much scum. He can't attend to any current issues, keep reads straight, give reasons or be bothered to respond.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Town
{

Nacho

,

2

,

GIF

,

Orci

,

Sven

, dfc,

AJ, Rach

, Ghostlin,

MetalSonic

}

Scum
{

Cabd

,

Tiphane

,

Mac

,

Varsoon, BROseidon

}

Updated.

ftr, this is a list where we are in negotiation

lol

we are seeing different things

2/aj/andy/sven are on my list