Mini 1451: A Memory of Light (Game Over)

[Belisarius]

This is really lazy reasoning. I would of accepted this on Page 5, but not Page 20+ Day 1 of an ongoing game.

The page is not relevant. I will vote for someone trying to shut down discussion on page 50+ on Day 4 of an ongoing game unless it's lylo.

[Selkies]

VOTE: Belisarius

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ThAdmiral

What's wrong with talking a lot?

Anyone else getting bussing vibes from this?

This is a most excellent interpretation

[Miss Destroyer]

Orci made post 315? I'm impressed, I rarely see him

not

screaming his head off.

anyway, explain that post? I don't understand it.

and I could swear there were others talking about Beli, and that there were more votes on him when Demon joined and there were people who were voicing suspicions on him, not including him. His vote on Beli also didn't seem to have prior reason backed up to it so it was an odd vote to make.

Ghost, Demon, and Swords were my picks for votes, and I stated that Selkies and Nero read TvT, meaning they are both reading town to me. I also stated that I was nullish on Matt so... my reads are there, don't know why you were asking me for my reads Ghost

I don't understand Demon's reason on Beli-scum, nor do I understand where he's been coming from all game

Swords, I explained how I progressed though when asked, so?

I am also fairly certain that I explained why I thought Ghost's vote looked the most opportunistic.

I'm also still not really seeing Beli-scum, I'm seeing some bad play but bad play doesn't necessarily mean that the person is scum.

We really should have been prodded... I almost forgot about this game, and I'm don't really like taking charge until I get a feel of what my Hydra buddy thinks, I'm like that with most all my Hydra's, ffery and Orci both know that so me not being a strong presence shouldn't be to much of an alarm.


~Mara

[Selkies]

You were more active as minimal

[Miss Destroyer]

And I hated it, and eventually faded coming on only to scream for the Mac lynch.

Explain 315

[ThAdmiral]

Thad your vote is boring as hell, since a majority is townreading amrun you're not going to go anywhere unless you actually attach something substantial.

Thanks for the advice.

VOTE: Belisarius

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ThAdmiral

What's wrong with talking a lot?

Anyone else getting bussing vibes from this?

Why not just vote me then?

[milkshake]

I'm also OK with voting you. Slighty more sure about Belis but you, GoodCop_BadCop, and Belis are my scum reads right now. We're not talking 100% certainty of course but when are we ever.

[milkshake]

GoodCop_BadCop asked me to provide self meta.
Here is a game as town: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=18809
Here is a game as scum: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=3210 (only one I could find)

MattP asked me to tell him why he's town. Actually he might still be scum to be honest, he hasn't contributed very much, and his vote isn't in a particularly helpful place right now. But mostly because of what other people said (not MattP), I'm starting to believe fake claim as town is a big possibility for MattP.

[Cephrir]

Vote Count 1.11

Belisarius 4

(Demon, Selkies, milkshake, Ghostlin)

sword_of_omens 3

(GoodCop_BadCop, Iecerint, MattP)

ThAdmiral 2

(Belisarius, Amrun)

Selkies 1

(Nero Cain)

Demon 1

(Miss Destroyer)

Amrun 1

(ThAdmiral)

Not Voting 1

(sword_of_omens)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is Monday, June 3rd, at 1 PM EST. This is in (expired on 2013-06-03 13:00:00).

[sword_of_omens]

hey all, prod dodge...

saw some questions addressed to me which i will answer as soon as i can get a second to post...

[Demon]

Orci made post 315? I'm impressed, I rarely see him

not

screaming his head off.

anyway, explain that post? I don't understand it.

and I could swear there were others talking about Beli, and that there were more votes on him when Demon joined and there were people who were voicing suspicions on him, not including him. His vote on Beli also didn't seem to have prior reason backed up to it so it was an odd vote to make.

Ghost, Demon, and Swords were my picks for votes, and I stated that Selkies and Nero read TvT, meaning they are both reading town to me. I also stated that I was nullish on Matt so... my reads are there, don't know why you were asking me for my reads Ghost

I don't understand Demon's reason on Beli-scum, nor do I understand where he's been coming from all game

Swords, I explained how I progressed though when asked, so?

I am also fairly certain that I explained why I thought Ghost's vote looked the most opportunistic.

I'm also still not really seeing Beli-scum, I'm seeing some bad play but bad play doesn't necessarily mean that the person is scum.

We really should have been prodded... I almost forgot about this game, and I'm don't really like taking charge until I get a feel of what my Hydra buddy thinks, I'm like that with most all my Hydra's, ffery and Orci both know that so me not being a strong presence shouldn't be to much of an alarm.


~Mara

Think harder? If you don't understand something why not ask instead of going "k well i dont understand this so fuck it and VOTE: demon"?

You also need to move your vote to someone that's plausibly realistic to lynch.

[Demon]

MattP asked me to tell him why he's town. Actually he might still be scum to be honest, he hasn't contributed very much, and his vote isn't in a particularly helpful place right now. But mostly because of what other people said (not MattP), I'm starting to believe fake claim as town is a big possibility for MattP.

...but other people have also stated that Matt does these types of gambits as either alignment? That's not a reason to be townreading him.

[Demon]

And Beli's reaction to being a viable and very possible lynch today is to... ignore his wagon? More votes of justice please.

[Ghostlin]

This is really lazy reasoning. I would of accepted this on Page 5, but not Page 20+ Day 1 of an ongoing game.

The page is not relevant. I will vote for someone trying to shut down discussion on page 50+ on Day 4 of an ongoing game unless it's lylo.

Yes, but that push was so soft, I think Snuggles the fucking bear wouldn't of suggested you try something else besides fucking Downy. You're not even

trying

, are you?

[MattP]

It means "you're voting me oh god"

Pls don't answer for other players [:

[milkshake]

MattP asked me to tell him why he's town. Actually he might still be scum to be honest, he hasn't contributed very much, and his vote isn't in a particularly helpful place right now. But mostly because of what other people said (not MattP), I'm starting to believe fake claim as town is a big possibility for MattP.

...but other people have also stated that Matt does these types of gambits as either alignment? That's not a reason to be townreading him.

Alright let's call him more null than town then.

Something I noticed when doing isos: GoodCop_BadCop and ThAdmiral have literally never mentioned eachother. And Belis's mentions of the two are also quite limited and careful. Only exception to this rule between the three is GoodCop_BadCop's most recent post, but that was after we already were suspecting him. Also incidentally the same time when Beli chose to vote ThAdmiral. I know it's cocky to claim that I've found the entire scum team but I'm really liking this find.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

@MOD V/LA until Monday; both heads are moving houses, what are the odds, heh

[Nero Cain]

this ain't looking like SOO town. So Milk is prob town.

[Nero Cain]

vote:SOO

[Nero Cain]

Swords, I initially liked your reason because it was the most detailed on of those on the Milkshake wagon and I had glazed through it. there are nearly 2 pages of between those two posts you have stated and a few people have made good points on you as well, which caused me to reconsider. That, and I had taken a closer look at that post and realized it wasn't as good as I had originally thought

This *might* be a link between SOO and Miss Des. Sure, as the pressure on SOO heated up she kinda backtracked to distance herself. But I'd be tempted to kill this when/if SOO flips scum.

[Amrun]

It means "you're voting me oh god"

Pls don't answer for other players [:

Reals, Matt?

REAL?

If you don't get how that was a joke, you're not reading the game at all. It is time to dedicate time to this game instead of faux prod dodging.

vla until Tuesday

Work.

[Selkies]

Swords, I initially liked your reason because it was the most detailed on of those on the Milkshake wagon and I had glazed through it. there are nearly 2 pages of between those two posts you have stated and a few people have made good points on you as well, which caused me to reconsider. That, and I had taken a closer look at that post and realized it wasn't as good as I had originally thought

This *might* be a link between SOO and Miss Des. Sure, as the pressure on SOO heated up she kinda backtracked to distance herself. But I'd be tempted to kill this when/if SOO flips scum.

Might be something to that.

What are your thoughts about Beliasaurus?

- fferyllt

[ThAdmiral]

how do I only have 2 votes on me? I'm being scummy as fuck?

anyway

unvote

I still don't get the soo wagon. If it's a choice between him and beli I'm voting beli.
Is there any chance of getting the milk wagon going again? Can't for the life of me understand how people are townreading him.
Selkies is probably town though.

vote: milkshake

anyone else?

[Ghostlin]

Ad, I vaguely remember playing with you, you're kind of like this and hardish to read. You're in my null pile.

I'm still not a fan of milk, for example, #465 is fucking silly because GCBC seems Town to me, and I loathe the pet theory that there's a votable link between Ad and GCBC at this stage.

However, lazy scum hunting beats no scum hunting every day of the week, and that's what Beli did with his 'oh no, ThAd is muffling Amrun.' Please, I just went toe to toe with Amrun and nothing, no fucking thing will shut Amrun up if she doesn't want to. (With the possible exception of her V/LA until Thursday.) You were fishing for stuff.

[Belisarius]

And Beli's reaction to being a viable and very possible lynch today is to... ignore his wagon?

Yeah, 'cause it's horseshit.