Newbie 1351: Hyrule's Under Attack.. Interesting..-GAME OVER

[fferyllt]

in fact, it's basically a case based on what I noticed from the other game plus some attitudinal things about her not going after Mac from the get go today.

[VisceraEyes]

Considering that's demonstrably something she does AS scum, I can lynch GM based on this.

Except I haven't done it. I have never found crumb lookalikes in my posts as Scum. Now, if you wanted to accuse me of planting fake crumbs, that would be an argument.

This came before this

I learned something yesterday from the postgame talk in one of my finished game. I've checked with Tracey to be sure that it is ok to mention/link to something from a finished game's QT and she said it is ok.

Since everyone else so far has been analyzing/thinking about the game without this info, I wanted to see Z7's post before throwing this into the mix.

Goodmorning was scum in the Donner Party game that just completed: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=27049

On the Mafia QT, she said this:

I may start looking for shit in my early posts that I can claim crumbing.

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/d6mG3vAAvvUc

When she claimed JK, she pointed up crumbs she left in this game. There was some skepticism but we eventually accepted they could be real crumbs.

I want this on the table going forward. Whatever we decide to do today, don't lose sight of this later in the game.

And she never mentioned you or this post again that I can see.

[VisceraEyes]

No it came after. Is it a lie? Like you proved that she DOES do things liek that - it was why I used the word demonstrably because you demonstrated with evidence that she does/has done that.

[VisceraEyes]

And OMG did they take the "users online" function off the game threads? ^^

I've been waiting for this day.

[fferyllt]

Yes they did. And now I wander the forums feeling like a ghost among ghosts as posts appear from nowhere as though written by apparitions.

[VisceraEyes]

Well operationally they are. You don't know if I'm real.

[fferyllt]

So you feel better about a GM lynch than a Mac lynch?

Did you read through the convo we had this morning?

[VisceraEyes]

I did...and I sorta agree with you on Mac's "tone"...but I'd kinda like GM to explain

Considering that's demonstrably something she does AS scum, I can lynch GM based on this.

Except I haven't done it. I have

never found crumb lookalikes

in my posts as Scum. Now, if you wanted to accuse me of planting fake crumbs, that would be an argument.

...this post before I decide about that. This is an outright lie as you showed. The only way it's not is if I take the bolded as literal and in the game in question she did NOT actually find any crumbs in spite of her going back and looking, as she said she would do in the QT in question.

[VisceraEyes]

So basically, I'm more leaning scum on GM than Mac based on what's in this thread, but my feels want GM to be town and Mac to be scum.

My heart will literally break if you or Inef are scum.

If Z is scum....I told you so in my first post.

[Ineffective]

replace out

Nevermind... This game is too epic to replace out of. consider me V/la till i cool my jets

[fferyllt]

If fropome was scum the student far surpassed the teacher on the first day of school. I'll give up the game and stick with cutthroat scrabble or something.

[fferyllt]

replace out

Nevermind... This game is too epic to replace out of. consider me V/la till i cool my jets

Best crosspost ever. <3

[goodmorning]

I did...and I sorta agree with you on Mac's "tone"...but I'd kinda like GM to explain

Considering that's demonstrably something she does AS scum, I can lynch GM based on this.

Except I haven't done it. I have

never found crumb lookalikes

in my posts as Scum. Now, if you wanted to accuse me of planting fake crumbs, that would be an argument.

...this post before I decide about that. This is an outright lie as you showed. The only way it's not is if I take the bolded as literal and in the game in question she did NOT actually find any crumbs in spite of her going back and looking, as she said she would do in the QT in question.

How precisely is it a lie?
You should take it as literal, because that's how it was meant. I must say it's not for lack of trying though.

[VisceraEyes]

I did...and I sorta agree with you on Mac's "tone"...but I'd kinda like GM to explain

Considering that's demonstrably something she does AS scum, I can lynch GM based on this.

Except I haven't done it. I have

never found crumb lookalikes

in my posts as Scum. Now, if you wanted to accuse me of planting fake crumbs, that would be an argument.

...this post before I decide about that. This is an outright lie as you showed. The only way it's not is if I take the bolded as literal and in the game in question she did NOT actually find any crumbs in spite of her going back and looking, as she said she would do in the QT in question.

How precisely is it a lie?
You should take it as literal, because that's how it was meant. I must say it's not for lack of trying though.

Well, what I was saying you HAVE done is LOOK FOR fake-crumbs in your posts - not that you found some and based a fake-claim around them. I'm willing to lynch you based on the ambiguity of the "crumbs" in question, on top of the fact that you're known to look for fake-crumbs in your posts, on top of the fact that you're only kinda sorta suspicious of Mac even though you claimed you jailed him on a night when no kill occurred.

[goodmorning]

I had ridiculously strong scumreads on two other people, at least one of whom (and likely both) is in fact not Scum. I'm still having difficulties coming to grips with the fact that I was wrong.
That said, I am determined that we should lynch Mac today, so I'm not sure where you feel wishy-washiness from me.
If I were Scum looking for fake crumbs, ctrl+fing "keep" would not be the way I'd go about it.

[fferyllt]

Yeah like every post is WIFOM now and I don't like it.

I know I was a top partner-read for alot of people but that doesn't mean I won't be killed. I was an easy lynch d2 when at L-1 but I managed to get away from it (

although not on my own terms.

.) but yeah, if I was the target last night, it would've thrown a spanner in the works had I not been protected.

What would your own terms have been?

[fferyllt]

I would instalynch VE if he claimed to protect GM

If i was in his situation as doc my greatest hope would be for GM to die so that i would have no reason to suspect him

also --- if GM died my suspicions of VE would have been relieved because if i was VM i would push on GM or push on someone else (mac) and set gm up for a lylo lynch and not kill him--- absolutely everything related to a pr not dying makes me think one of them is scum

What does VM stand for?

[Ineffective]

VE*

[fferyllt]

aaah. tks. I think I originally read it as VE, but going back thru the thread earlier today I couldn't figure it out.

[goodmorning]

Well this game is dying. Z desperately needs prodding unless he's V/LA and there have only been two players posting within the last 2 days.

Someone should explain why Mac hasn't been lynched yet.

[TraceyLyn11]

VOTE COUNT 3.5

[L-4] Z7-852:

[L-4] fferyllt:

[L-3] Mac: (goodmorning)

[L-4] Ineffective:

[L-3] VisceraEyes: (Z7-852)

[L-2] goodmorning: (VisceraEyes, Mac)

Not Voting:

2 (fferyllt, Ineffective)

• With six alive, it takes four to lynch.
  
• Day Three's deadline: June 05, 2013 CST or in (expired on 2013-06-05 00:00:00).
  
• V/LA: Ineffective (indefinitely)

[TraceyLyn11]

*Enters thread*

Z desperately needs prodding unless he's V/LA

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Z7-852 has been prodded!

[Z7-852]

Forgot to put V/LA for the weekend. Read the thread with phone few times though.

I was just noticing that game goes around and around with same arguments with same people. I will put goodmorning to L-1 just because I still find her and VisceraEyes to be most suspicious. My arguments on the issue haven't really chanced.

VOTE: goodmorning

[goodmorning]

Z, I will point out that it is very very unlikely that both of the PR claims are Scum. So I have a few questions for you:
If I am Town and VE is Scum, who is the other Scum?
If I am Scum and VE is Town, who is the other Scum?
If I am Town and VE is Town, who is the other Scum?

[fferyllt]

lol. this wouldn't be a manufactured townslip would it?