Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[Mac]

wow that is a ton of pages to catch up on....

Was gone a big chunk of yesterday and was falling asleep in the chair last night so decided to finish catching up today.

Welcome to the madhouse ... I mean the game, yeah the game... Rev.

Will look up games for Rev and Jon I think I have one completed with each and in both they were Town.

did you find NOTHING to comment on in the 24 hours since you posted? :/

She commented on the many pages to catch up on

- b

yes indeed, I was hoping for content however. this post is so oddly phrased. after the second sentence I expected Rach to delve into some sort of content from her catchup.... but it never comes? bizarre.

sadly I always read Rach as scummy. would be interested in Nacho's read. boy he is in demand tonight.

[Mac]

^ or anyone else's read, for that matter.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

@ nacho & mac

what would you do if I told you that I was now 95% certain that 2 is scum and that aj is their scumbuddy? would you trust it?

[Mac]

I could probably see it, but I'd like some evidence to back it up.

[Cabd]

So slight break on moving, will read real quick but i'd like to say for the record that I suck and have been playing hell of lazy these past few days, and I'll be doing an actual post and make some solid reads on my return.

Oh and also from skimming, calling bullshit on sonic's ISO speeds, I read SUPER fast (a whole novel in an hour so yeah) but no way you developed a read in under 60 seconds from that ISO.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

mac, that is not how trust works.

but I will explain everything in postgame

[orcinus_theoriginal]

@ nacho & mac

what would you do if I told you that I was now 95% certain that 2 is scum and that aj is their scumbuddy? would you trust it?

VOTE: 2

I was recently reminded of how town fery seems on her town game

After due deliberation, I think Millie's right on this one

[Mac]

mac, that is not how trust works.

but I will explain everything in postgame

that is true.

yes okay I will trust it. which first?

[Nachomamma8]

Other games have calmed down for now. I'm going to spend tonight pretty much exclusively reviewing this game.

I'm excited for this. I'm going to wait for this. Meanwhile I'm going to keep working on my town block.
Orc?

[Mac]

nacho when you have a minute can you expand on your townread on Rach because I am not seeing it.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Orc is unfortunately VLA until late Sunday

But how bout we talk for the next hour or so

[Nachomamma8]

@ nacho & mac

what would you do if I told you that I was now 95% certain that 2 is scum and that aj is their scumbuddy? would you trust it?

I'd trust you but I need a minute to recalibrate considering you fucked my read of them to hell and back
i was reading buldey as scum until very recently where you were like "no. i don't see what you see." and now you are going to a 95% read
you're killing me

[Nachomamma8]

Next, Rach. I'm heavily relying on a game here since I read her wrong in Popcorn, but am figuring out where I went wrong with that specific read.

First of all, the read on me.

Played with Nacho loads and so far he feels pretty much his town meta.... Though he does have a tendency to replace into scum slots LOL... but yeah feels towny to me.

Ok guys n gals Nacho is definitely hitting my towndar...

So far Town reads : Nacho, Andy, B n B. Orc,

Read progression here is very natural. She had the townread on me originally, which is an easy one to pick up on which was exactly the situation in popcorn mafia. Then, she follows up on read later, strengthens it. Ending has me as solid town, no more waffling.

I definitely want to hear more from Nacho, he does have a strong record of replacing into scum slots....

Now look at Popcorn. Similar situation, this is literally the only time she gave a read on me and I was town as all hell. No development, no trajectory, none.

Also, it took her 22 posts in Popcorn to come up with a read, and her strongest scumread was on obvtown for "trolling". None of her reads had any sort of trajectory at all, and she just lurked through the game and coasted by on me defending her until she just stopped posting and I started dropping the townread. Here, she's been aggressive with reads, is asking relevant questions, is calling out OTHER people for inactivity... This is not anything close to her scumgame at all, and if she is town I will happily eat several hats until a hole forms in my stomach and I die from internal bleeding.

Mac, here's Rach.

[Nachomamma8]

3. Andrius
4. BeautyAndTheBeast (Majiffy + pirate mollie)
5. BROseidon
6. Cabd
8. Ghostlin
9. GuyInFreezer
11. Mac
13. orcinus_theoriginal
14. RachMarie
18. TiphaineDeath
20. Varsoon

orc, this right here is my baby
who do you have a problem with?

[Nachomamma8]

@ nacho & mac

what would you do if I told you that I was now 95% certain that 2 is scum and that aj is their scumbuddy? would you trust it?

I'd trust you but I need a minute to recalibrate considering you fucked my read of them to hell and back
i was reading buldey as scum until very recently where you were like "no. i don't see what you see." and now you are going to a 95% read
you're killing me

like i usually let you read ffery when she is in game but you honestly can't go back and forth so much because it fries the shit out of my scumdar

[Mac]

why did I not see that?

& what do you make of 1491?

and she doesn't even explain her read on you and I think it would be suicide for any scum to not read you as town.

I want to sheep you but that just seems weak.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh wrt town block

You, BB, GiF, Mac, Cabd, BRO,

Problems with TD, and maybe we should cut it down to our six strongest. There's almost certainly scum in a block that big

[orcinus_theoriginal]

The problem with the game right now is we have too many town reads and scum might be playing a really good game

I mean, unless the game really is that simple but I don't think it is

[Nachomamma8]

but, to the extent I could discern a difference, it seems to be maybe lack of focus in terms of what he reacts to/presses on. he won at endgame as an arsonist in a recent game, which I thought was a hell of a game: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=27065

It's not his not-town game that I'm focused on; it's his scumgame.

[Nachomamma8]

Problems with TD, and maybe we should cut it down to our six strongest. There's almost certainly scum in a block that big

ok then find the scum in the block.
I've explained my townread on TD; where do you disagree?

[TheReverend]

@Reverend - Nacho is voting AJ.

My bad. I saw him saying he thought 2 was scum and assumed that's where his vote was, I've read some of nacho's ISO and he's had his vote there at some point.

Can't say I'm unhappy with my vote though. Orc has placed his vote there, nacho thinks 2 is scum, I'm happy this is a good lynch for today. If orc and nacho go for AJ, then I'll probably be on that one. I'm more confident in my town reads of orc and nacho than I am in any of my scum reads. That's why I'm happy to sheep them.

Enjoy your sheeping-journey. I'm looking forward to the unvoting part of it.

I'm looking forward to the bit where nacho changes to you.

[Nachomamma8]

why did I not see that?

& what do you make of 1491?

and she doesn't even explain her read on you and I think it would be suicide for any scum to not read you as town.

I want to sheep you but that just seems weak.

It was the exact same in Popcorn Mafia; literally no one doubted me for a second except for her.
I'm going to get you one more point, but I have to do a little research to see if recent scumgame fucked it up.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh yeah read your TD town case

I agree with it

But seriously I have town reads on too many people already I have to be wrong about something

I'm just stickin with my six strongest and moving everyone else back to null. I want to lynch 2 today, and see where that brings us. I think I was right to suspect 2 for not pinging my towndar hard enough.

[Nachomamma8]

Oh wrt town block

You, BB, GiF, Mac, Cabd, BRO,

Problems with TD, and maybe we should cut it down to our six strongest. There's almost certainly scum in a block that big

Also, please trust me on Andrius. Please.

[Nachomamma8]

But seriously I have town reads on too many people already I have to be wrong about something

once you drop this thought, you'll be a much better town player
drop it now. be right about everything.