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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 12:55 pm

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In post 1594, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1591, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Problems with TD, and maybe we should cut it down to our six strongest. There's almost certainly scum in a block that big
ok then find the scum in the block.
I've explained my townread on TD; where do you disagree?
I can't, that's the problem

I want to do a hard reset on all my reads because they all lean far too much to the town side

So that's what I'm doing

Sticking with nacho/BB/Cabd/BRO/Gif/Mac for now
I think this will be most conducive to my scumhunting

I need to start viewing some of my town reads with more skepticism and you do too
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 12:56 pm

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In post 1600, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I need to start viewing some of my town reads with more skepticism and you do too
I've done more reading for this game then I've ever done in a game in my life.
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 12:58 pm

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In post 1581, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 1577, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ nacho & mac

what would you do if I told you that I was now 95% certain that 2 is scum and that aj is their scumbuddy? would you trust it?
VOTE: 2

I was recently reminded of how town fery seems on her town game

After due deliberation, I think Millie's right on this one
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In post 1580, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:mac, that is not how trust works.

but I will explain everything in postgame
that is true.

yes okay I will trust it. which first?
2 is probably the most dangerous so 2
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:00 pm

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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:00 pm

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In post 1601, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1600, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I need to start viewing some of my town reads with more skepticism and you do too
I've done more reading for this game then I've ever done in a game in my life.
I'm still not comfortable enough with a eleven person townbloc, sorry

I'm pretty sure those six (plus me seven) are town though, so can we start there and add people to the block as necessary
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:02 pm

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In post 1604, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 1601, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1600, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I need to start viewing some of my town reads with more skepticism and you do too
I've done more reading for this game then I've ever done in a game in my life.
I'm still not comfortable enough with a eleven person townbloc, sorry

I'm pretty sure those six (plus me seven) are town though, so can we start there and add people to the block as necessary
If you're not comfortable, talk about my reads. Where have I gone wrong? Which ones are you the least confident with? Why?
I don't care if you don't accept them, I just want you to find the weak points and attack them.
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:04 pm

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In post 1586, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1577, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ nacho & mac

what would you do if I told you that I was now 95% certain that 2 is scum and that aj is their scumbuddy? would you trust it?
I'd trust you but I need a minute to recalibrate considering you fucked my read of them to hell and back
i was reading buldey as scum until very recently where you were like "no. i don't see what you see." and now you are going to a 95% read
you're killing me
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I'm sorry.

I will explain everything postgame. pretty sure rev is the scum tracker and I know you are not going to like this but I really do think the 4th one is andy.
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:05 pm

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In post 1606, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:I know you are not going to like this but I really do think the 4th one is andy.
It's not.
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:08 pm

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Vote: 2
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:08 pm

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In post 1595, TheReverend wrote:
In post 1557, Mac wrote:@Reverend - Nacho is voting AJ.
My bad. I saw him saying he thought 2 was scum and assumed that's where his vote was, I've read some of nacho's ISO and he's had his vote there at some point.

Can't say I'm unhappy with my vote though. Orc has placed his vote there, nacho thinks 2 is scum, I'm happy this is a good lynch for today. If orc and nacho go for AJ, then I'll probably be on that one. I'm more confident in my town reads of orc and nacho than I am in any of my scum reads. That's why I'm happy to sheep them.
In post 1556, ² wrote:Enjoy your sheeping-journey. I'm looking forward to the unvoting part of it.
I'm looking forward to the bit where nacho changes to you.
You're disgustingly terrible.

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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:10 pm

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Again, going to take another step back. I feel good about the town block.
AJ is scum. 2 is scum. TMT is scum. MS could be scum, Rev could be scum.
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:17 pm

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In post 1605, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1604, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 1601, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1600, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I need to start viewing some of my town reads with more skepticism and you do too
I've done more reading for this game then I've ever done in a game in my life.
I'm still not comfortable enough with a eleven person townbloc, sorry

I'm pretty sure those six (plus me seven) are town though, so can we start there and add people to the block as necessary
If you're not comfortable, talk about my reads. Where have I gone wrong? Which ones are you the least confident with? Why?
I don't care if you don't accept them, I just want you to find the weak points and attack them.
the only one I think you are wrong about it andy. do you want to ask me why

orc plz trust us

if 2 flips scum then you have two very scummy people to work with. based on interactions with 2, you sven and aj. I am pretty sure that was scum theatre that nacho and I spotted earlier in the game
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:18 pm

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3. Andrius
-I didn't like the Sven jump in 175. The part where e calls Sven out for being in a meeting seems especially weak to me. Scum fabricating reason. All his reasons for voting Sven were regurgitated--why not credit them directly? Similarly, if he's agreeing with other people's thought processes, why isn't he posting that he is town reading them? BROs lack of a vote isn't scummy, a lot of people in MS don't use their vote liberally (Marangal). Attacking BRO or not having a scum read is fucking stupid because neither did I. And many other people. Attack on Sven's 160 seems really really asinine.

Very slow on giving town reads. Mollie and I werent given a town read until post 500. I feel like it should have been earlier.

Votes: Sven and varsoon. Can't argue, but both seem like wagons that would be easiest to build a case on, varsoon especially. Makes me doubt.

Obviously I wouldn't normally be using Sven ad varsoon vote to call someone out but I'm just looking for hints of scum motivation right now

2 vote came out of nowhere

Going down this list...
8. Ghostlin

14. RachMarie
It's rach.
18. TiphaineDeath
20. Varsoon
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:18 pm

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Heading back off again, but I'd like to mention that Varsoon dropped his little gambit and then everyone totally forgot about it. Make him use it on 2 or something.
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:19 pm

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In post 1613, Cabd wrote:Heading back off again, but I'd like to mention that Varsoon dropped his little gambit and then everyone totally forgot about it. Make him use it on 2 or something.
At what point do you realize varsoon is stupid and that the gambit won't work
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:20 pm

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In post 201, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 181, Nachomamma8 wrote:1+1=sven
This is my kind of math.

Miller-tracker in non-bastard game? Eh... I really don't like it at all. One part is always mafia (red investigation) and the other is mafia-capable (tracker). But, at the same time, I really think this is the better vote.


VOTE: TiphaineDeath

Too many bad posts. Voting Nacho immediately because no scum would ever miller claim? Bad. If you don't think scum would do it, they'll try it. Unvoting with "Huh, interesting". Also bad. Bad scum must die, and I wish I could do math with that name but I can't.

I can hardly do math anyways.
AJ - first few posts he was on a player that I thought looked scummy (TD).

Post 617 - reinforces the read, irritable about thread size. The irritability gave me a town feel.

Post 774 - really disliked some of his reads in this post - Orcinus, Svenskt. otoh the Andrius read and explanation in 783 reads well

945 - true observation about Mac, but Mac tends to do that as town I think.

1148 - tactical back away from TD? trajectory sucked, but lots of thread between posts here.

1291 - I actually like this post. He picked up quite a bit on my overall hydra play style, though my style is still morphing. I feel like he's reading the thread carefully, not just flipping through, to develop observations like this one and the Mac read in 945.

Starting around 1386 he turns his focus to TMT. This the second player where his attitude about his read is really strong. From my meta dives, this much conviction is what I thought was not as pronounced in his scum game.

Will reread a completed scum game or two to be sure I have the focus thing right.

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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:20 pm

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In post 1611, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:the only one I think you are wrong about it andy. do you want to ask me why
i suppose
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:21 pm

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In post 1461, TheReverend wrote:Ok jon is clearly not scum, unless he's deliberately being quiet so he can pretend to have forgotten the game. No-one forgets a game in which they're scum.
Am I the only one that thinks this is suuuuuper scummy

Also GIF did you ask me a question that I did not answer
Also did anyone else ask me a question that I did not answer
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:22 pm

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Ghostlin

As Sven said, catchup post might have been fabricated, easy thoughts that look stolen

Rach and varsoon: fuck if I'm confident in reading them

TD: I don't know. Gut maybe. Your town case was pretty solid
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:22 pm

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jesus christ you guys are giving me whiplash.

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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:23 pm

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So my ordering:

TD: confident
Ghostlin: scum motivation might exist
Rach and varsoon: never will be sure
Andrius: only putting up with him because of you
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:24 pm

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In post 1610, Nachomamma8 wrote:Again, going to take another step back. I feel good about the town block.
AJ is scum. 2 is scum. TMT is scum. MS could be scum, Rev could be scum.
plz lynch in the order of aj <--- rev <--- and then hopefully you will get to the point where you will want to lynch andy. you don't have to vote him just keep the focus.
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:24 pm

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In post 1619, ² wrote:jesus christ you guys are giving me whiplash.

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Hey. Sorry, can you give me a read list from you and buld? I can't find it
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:25 pm

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In post 1621, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1610, Nachomamma8 wrote:Again, going to take another step back. I feel good about the town block.
AJ is scum. 2 is scum. TMT is scum. MS could be scum, Rev could be scum.
plz lynch in the order of aj <--- rev <--- and then hopefully you will get to the point where you will want to lynch andy. you don't have to vote him just keep the focus.
I'm only ever considering rev after 2 flips scum

And even then I do think Sven's slot was town
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:25 pm

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In post 1617, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:
In post 1461, TheReverend wrote:Ok jon is clearly not scum, unless he's deliberately being quiet so he can pretend to have forgotten the game. No-one forgets a game in which they're scum.
Am I the only one that thinks this is suuuuuper scummy

Also GIF did you ask me a question that I did not answer
Also did anyone else ask me a question that I did not answer
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