Mini 1449 - Ordinary Town

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

Where I come from, we call these things "scumslips."

[GoodCopBadCop]

You didn't even try to guess



-BadCop

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

Absta101
Dashie knows your partner, I forgot it.

[GoodCopBadCop]

haha no absta101 is goodcop because of that game

he's a damn fine cop

my methods are more questionable but it gets the job done with all these scumbags nowadays, thus I am badcop

-BadCop

[hapahauli]

rofl that's amazing

What's that from?

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

A guy posted it in a game I played in, I just stole it and edited it. Tbh I don't even know. The original pic was in the game modded by Dunhanger.

[Cheery Pie]

@CP

Did you get any information from it, or did it only become apparent after his death?

What do you mean?
He invited me into a daytalk enabled QT (neighborhood), that's all.

I was just wondering if he had previous said anything in it. (the fact you got the invitation when he died is interesting.)

@ Cheery

I was actually suspicious of hapa for it as well, but he's been confirmed town by acfan.

Why are you assuming ac1983fan is town? You clearly don't have a town-read on the guy.

Hell, you

question

ac1983fan about his claim in the post right before:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4981010

Why did you want a obvtown confirmed? Isn't he already enough of a kill threat?

Where I come from, we call these things "scumslips."

He's spending more time criticizing people's logic than actually scum-hunting. Furthermore, his vote-post on Jake is weak as fuck. Finally, the above makes no sense from a town perspective. He basically assumes in his logic that ac1983fan is town, yet is treating AC like a scum-candidate.

You got a problem with me questioning my town reads?
I only know my own alignment, so of course everyone else is still in the mix of stuff whether I'm reading them town or not.

Yes I assumed he was telling the truth, but still wanted more clarity about why he choose that action and this made you confirmed town in my mind along with your play before the acfan wagon.

Re: PonyJake claim, that claim makes sense for some of your actions, but please don't breadcrumb-wifom your results again, they just made you look worse.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Varsoon

I'm not voting acfan quite yet since I'm waiting on Pie to remember to do his post.

[Cheery Pie]

or he's already hammered, that's also a good reason for me to not be doing it.

I'll try to make Pie do stuff during the night.

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

Why would you interrogate a town read?

Makes no sense

[Dyslexicon]

This is enjoyable reading. Finally got around to lynch ac19. And I kind of loled at Hapa when he didn't get the hint. Watching from my lurker hut I'm quite convinced that we are on the right track. Would there be one more baddie on the loose after CP (just going to assume he is scum given the obvious scumslip)? I'll read up on the suspicion around Toomai earlier in the game, as he is the one standing out to me as the most likely scummate. Peace and love <3

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

@ Cp, you seriously suggest I should have just came out and full claimed my results to start the day? Lol c'mon dude you aren't that bad of a player.

You absolutely breadcrumb your results. When people started thinking the change of his claim made him town, I had to get aggressive. Granted I went too far.

I really wish I had a 1 shot hider role too, oh well.

Tomorrow lynch CP, next lynch HP. If game isn't over lynch hap and after that you are on your own.

[ac1983fan]

Where I come from, we call these things "scumslips."

this is literally the best thing

[Cheery Pie]

Why would you interrogate a town read?

Makes no sense

Because clarity is still required from whoever and my reads are capable of being wrong, the answer may or may not have reduced the town read, but when I've identified you and him as not being on the same team (my question about that being the case was sarcasm) and you as my prime suspect, then the townread on AC fan does possibly go higher than it otherwise might, but as I said, I wanted some clarity, which then if they preform their part correctly will allow town reads to then spread towniness amongst other people who may not neccassary have seen them as town before.
aka townhunting.

@ Cp, you seriously suggest I should have just came out and full claimed my results to start the day? Lol c'mon dude you aren't that bad of a player.

You absolutely breadcrumb your results. When people started thinking the change of his claim made him town, I had to get aggressive. Granted I went too far.

I really wish I had a 1 shot hider role too, oh well.

Tomorrow lynch CP, next lynch HP. If game isn't over lynch hap and after that you are on your own.

No waiting until after he claimed his action was the correct choice (because otherwise he'd know to claim rbed/stronged), but crumbing it in a NK analysis wifom post was a bad idea.

You've seen me bus partners in lylo, what makes you think I'd be afraid or whatever to bus here?

anyway if you lynch me tomorrow, Jake will probably be the next dead after that.

[hapahauli]

@ Cheery

You got a problem with me questioning my town reads?
I only know my own alignment, so of course everyone else is still in the mix of stuff whether I'm reading them town or not.

Questioning your town-reads is fine. However when it comes at the expense of questioning your scumreads, we have problems. You can't scum-hunt by questioning a small portion of people you find town.

i.e. Varsoon. You're questioning your town-reads more than the guy you're actually voting. Reaaaaallllyyyy?

Yes I assumed he was telling the truth, but still wanted more clarity about why he choose that action and this made you confirmed town in my mind along with your play before the acfan wagon.

And this is the problem. You

assumed

he was telling the truth. Which is a problem, given that I can't find a single place in your filter where you call him a town-read.

anyway if you lynch me tomorrow, Jake will probably be the next dead after that.

Is this a threat or something?

[qwints]

Having failed to find a murderer on day 1, you decide not to waste anytime on day 2. You throw ac1983fan to the bloodthirsty crowd outside. Only after stringing him up do they notice the blood-stained knife he had hidden away.


ac1983fan,

Mafia Goon

, lynched Day 2.

Vote Count 2.5

ac1983fan: Dyslexicon, Jake from Rainbowdash, Varsoon, Scott Brosius, GoodCopBadCop, Hapahauli (6)
Toomai: hp[leaves] (1)
Scott Brosius: ac1983fan (1)
Jake from Rainbowdash: Cheery Pie (1)
Not voting -- Daemon385, Toomai (2)

Please submit your night actions by May 28th.
Night Two ends in (expired on 2013-05-28 17:00:00)

[qwints]

The second night is perfectly ordinary. No one wakes up dead.

Vote Count 3.0

Not voting (GoodCopBadCop, Hapahauli, Dyslexicon, Cheery Pie, Jake from Rainbowdash, hp[leaves], Varsoon, Scott Brosius, Daemon385, Toomai)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day Three ends in (expired on 2013-06-11 17:00:00)

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

So, want to talk to dashie but my gut says we lynch hp or cp.

[Toomai]

Vote: Dyslexicon

Feel like poking in this direction to start. Basically I have this gut feeling that he bussed ac1983fan in addition to the laissez-faire attitude about other goings-on. If the Kings/Sharks game doesn't go too long I'll see if I can put in some more effort.

[hapahauli]

Huhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Agree with HP and CP as well.

I'm going to look into Day 1 votecounts just to be sure I didn't miss anything though.

[Daemon385]

Aye agreed as well.

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

Okay, pony part here and here is where we are at

1) We don't have any result for you, obviously that means we got blocked/are one shot. Will still let scum guess which.
2) We are NOT lynching today without us getting the last word in since I think im close to having figured out what this setup is and that means something may need to be setup.
3)

Vote hp

Will explain it more later on. Basically no quicklynching today period and at least I like hp as scum a whole lot more due to his neutrality and comments regarding the acfan wagon.

[Dyslexicon]

The second night is perfectly ordinary. No one wakes up dead.

Vote Count 3.0

Not voting (GoodCopBadCop, Hapahauli, Dyslexicon, Cheery Pie, Jake from Rainbowdash, hp[leaves], Varsoon, Scott Brosius, Daemon385, Toomai)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day Three ends in (expired on 2013-06-11 17:00:00)

Vote: Dyslexicon

Feel like poking in this direction to start. Basically I have this gut feeling that he bussed ac1983fan in addition to the laissez-faire attitude about other goings-on. If the Kings/Sharks game doesn't go too long I'll see if I can put in some more effort.

How does one wake up dead in the first place?

Toomai, that would be some hard core bussing. Or is this because I noted my suspicion against you before last night?

Also, agree with CP or HP, anything with P, except maybe hapa.

[hapahauli]

I think the one thing that vindicates Dyslexicon right now is that he was the quickest person to act on the ac1983fan wagon when it first came up on Day 1.

I think bussing is a possibility, but I like to explore all other scummier options before I look towards something like an early and decisive bus.

[hapahauli]

So Day 1 is shaping up to be fairly

Vote Count 1.8

NicCage: Jake from Rainbowdash, ɀefiend, hp[leaves],

Daemon

,

Dyslexicon

,

Toomai

(3)
Varsoon: Scott Brosius, ac1983fan, Cheery Pie (3)
ac1983fan: Hapahauli, Dyslexicon, Daemon385, Toomai, GBGC, Varsoon (6)
Scott Brosius:

Varsoon

,

GoodCopBadCop

(0)
Toomai: NicCage (1)

Not voting -- (0)

So this is the state of the votes after I bombed the case on ac1983fan on Day 1 and ac1983fan got to L-1.

Looking at the ac1983fan voters, I'm pretty much leaning town on all of them in some regard. Sudden wagons like this are incredibly hard for scum to react to, and scum often like to "wait and see" what happens.

Dyslexicon

reacted the quickest out of anyone, which makes me think he's town.

Daemon

was the 2nd on, and bussing a scum-buddy as a newer player that quickly would be pretty brave.

Toomai

was 3rd. I'm somewhat null on him, but again, early vote.

GBGC

is obv town based on behavior.

Varsoon

is also obv town given that ac1983fan wanted to kill him all of Day 1.

Of the non-voters,

Jake/Rainbow

is obv. town. The three others are mighty suspicious:

Cheery Pie

's first instinct was to ignore my case, comment on how quick the wagon was, and spread suspicion on it's voters:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p4956397

HP

did something similar:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4957231
...however I'm not sure if it's scum-motivated or not. It seems very off-the-cuff and in-the-moment. I'm more convinced on Cheery.

Scott Brosious

fucked off and did nothing. Furthermore, his vote on ac1938fan reads a lot like a bus vote:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4981250
...he pretty much justifies lynching ac1983fan with a connection to Toomai rather than of his own analysis. Seems like an excuse rather than a genuine belief.

------------------------------------
As such, I believe our scumteam is

Cheery Pie

and

Scott Brosius

Vote: Cheery Pie

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

First Nic wagon -

NicCage

: Cheery Pie,

Jake from Rainbowdash, ɀefiend,

Dyslexicon, Daemon385
Second Nic Wagon -

NicCage

:

Jake from Rainbowdash, ɀefiend

, Dyslexicon, Daemon385, hp[leaves] (5)
Varsoon: Scott Brosius, Toomai, GoodCopBadCop,

ac1983fan

, Cheery Pie (5)

ac1983fan

: Hapahauli, Dyslexicon, Daemon385, Varsoon,

NicCage

(5)

ac1983fan:

Dyslexicon,

Jake from Rainbowdash

, Varsoon, Scott Brosius, GoodCopBadCop, Hapahauli (6)

dyslex 1st vote on Nic - blatant sheep vote, even says as much
Dyslex's vote on AC could be a buss and his post 435 makes me feel that way. 435 he questions hap for ac scum = nic town.
his early vote on AC day 2 and ignores the game for the remainder of the day phase until AC is lynched is a huge red flag.

the biggest flaw against HP is these quotes

post_id=4957189 time=1368651805 user_id=10128]Oh well, I trust you on this one Hapa.

Claim, ac. Claim till you die.

post_id=4957231 time=1368652830 user_id=10128]Actually wait. Doesn't it bother anyone that this wagon went from one vote to L-1 in a single page? Toomai's reasoning is already terrible; but daemon and dys came back from their inactivity just to hop on this bandwagon. I'm willing to bet serious $$ that at least two of them is scum.

VOTE: Toomai

not to mention his avoidance of AC's wagon.

either one is fine with me, but I also like CP lynch too.

-J