Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[TiphaineDeath]

I've already explained my townread on two, if I have time today I'll go reread him and give you something more substantial.

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@Aj in the posts where you laid out some reasons for suspecting this slot it was all about my posts. I'm not the strong voice in this hydra. Nacho's comment that you are going after a strong player in us is IMO inaccurate.

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^^ - f

[Aj The Epic]

I'm not going after you, though. If Nacho continues to believe your scum, he has some reading to do yet.

If Nacho remembers, the reason I got a hydra with him in the first place is because I have issues in large games. This is how I play large games, I try to find one or two people and go from there because I can't manage all 20 in my head. This is why I'm going after one at a time. In a 9 player game, i can find scum easily because I have an easier working to go through. I think in pictures and visuals so generally I look for a web of connections. That's a challenge in a 20 player game. (And it doesn't work when half the game is quiet). That's why I tunnel.

Bro, you skimming or scum? You missed a ton of points I expected you to find and hit recently. (This is what separates Andrius to Bro... Andrius is actually catching the main points).

2 is town. That last discussion with nacho cemented it. Nacho, your points were almost mirrored. Get over it, that read is wrong.

TmT is scum. Everyone knows it.

MS is still not useful if not scum. He needs to at least admit to not reading anything.

Actually, Rach is more town than anything to me. One thing I notice from a lot of games is scum wait until their target posts to vote for the target player. Rach didn't do that, which suggests a more certain freedom in action. That's more town than anything else.

(It's pretty obvious that some of Nacho's town reads are right, including Cabd, Mac)

B&B is town. The 'empathetic mollie' does not exist here. That alone is enough, but they've also got a good synergy and their reads generally seem to add up to what the other thinks. Synergy in a hydra is a towntell especially when posting independently because it means they're actually looking.

Varsoon can drop back down the ladder again. He wants me to be scum, is unhappy with my play, but sheeped me on my first post. He still hasn't played all that solid and he almost drew in Rev to be modkilled.

I like Ghostlin. I don't know what problem you guys have with him, but his posts play better than a lot of people's posting. They've gotten better, are more in touch, and he also agrees with me on TmT (which is, of course, immediate town points).

Sajin is town, has been that way forever.


This is what leads me to believe that scum is simply lurking. Bro, TmT (Both my major scum reads) are lurking. This is a common theme for many not on my list. Lurking. It's not the people posting (but perhaps Varsoon) that are scum so much as those who can't post anything worth reading.

[Mac]

this is the second time you have called someone confirmed scum AJ.

can you lay out a case for TMT scum because evidently I am the only person in this game who doesn't know it.

your scumreads are all lurkers?

[Aj The Epic]

Mac, what are your scum reads, then? And sure, I'll go find the case again.

[Aj The Epic]

Mainly TMT is who's caught my eye recently. (Andrius convinced me that miller/tracker is PLAUSIBLE.) I wish this read (On TMT) was easy to explain, but it isn't. His question to post rating is really high and content to post is really low, even when he got relatively active. Reading his iso is like reading his posts for the first time, none of them were memorable. He's flying under the radar flak of Ghost and 2 (and maybe varsoon). His list of reads felt forced, mainly because 9 null reads, not including Jon (who hasn't posted. That's 9 of 18 (Minus two for him and jon) are null to him.

VOTE: TMT

This was my main issue with TMT. If you want me to update it, I can but there isn't a whole lot more post-wise to go over.

[TheReverend]

Can't say I'm getting a scum vibe off AJ. I don't like the "confirmed scum" comments though. It's not that I disagree, I picked up a really weak town read when ISO'ing TMT but I emphasise really weak. It's the language. No-one is confirmed scum here.

But I feel good enough about AJ to move him into my weak town camp.

I'm busy over today and tomorrow, I'm trying to keep up as the game develops.

Here's what I have in my note file for now anyway... I'll be looking to expand these notes into something more substantial during the night phase.

scum pool... ², BROseidon, GuyInFreezer, Metal Sonic, RachMarie, Varsoon, Keybladewielder

weak town read... Andrius, Cabd, dntfkingcare, Ghostlin, TMTOLBTWNTOF, Aj The Epic

strong town read... BeautyAndTheBeast, Mac, orcinus_theoriginal, Sajin, Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath

[Keybladewielder]

How am I in the scum pool? What have I said to make me scum?

[TheReverend]

Neither you nor jon have said anything that indicates town. Bit jumpy aren't you?

[Mac]

What have they said that indicates scum Rev?

Do you have no null pool?

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

beast i find 2 town too

wat

I don't find 2 town

NACHO!!!!!

[Aj The Epic]

I think MS was practicing alliteration.

Hey Mollie, what's so wrong about adding a 'h' into 'what'?

[TheReverend]

What have they said that indicates scum Rev?

Nothing. I thought jon's total lack of interest hints at town, but that alone isn't enough. I'll judge this slot on keyblade's input from here.

Anyone null is in the scum pool, ie rach and keyblade. They're gonna have to get towning.

[BROseidon]

Bro, you skimming or scum? You missed a ton of points I expected you to find and hit recently. (This is what separates Andrius to Bro... Andrius is actually catching the main points).

I actually didn't want to bring this up since I'm not going V/LA, but I am in finals period (quarter system is the worst >.>). I'm reading/posting during my study/writing breaks, which makes it hard to keep up with this thread. I'm pointing out the bigger things I notice, and once summer starts I'll have the time to do rereads and start piecing things together.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Nacho, yeah I attacked Orc for being an AtE player. But that's a true part of his process. There's nothing denying that. Other than that, I'm sorry I'm having a shit game. Not going to go into preservation mode.

if you think it is a playstyle thing then why did you attack him?

[Mac]

Mac, what are your scum reads, then? And sure, I'll go find the case again.

this feels like you are trying to twist it onto me a bit. the use of the word 'then' in particular.

you & 2 are my strong scumreads.

I also have a alot of townreads

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I think MS was practicing alliteration.

Hey Mollie, what's so wrong about adding a 'h' into 'what'?

have you finished up your scum memoirs yet

[Keybladewielder]

Rev, you realize I'm reading through the thread. I did replace in, ya know.

[TheReverend]

Yeah me too. I'm the claimed miller. I'm far from up to date myself. But you certainly seem worried about being in someone's scum pool, which makes me suspicious.

[Keybladewielder]

No, I'm not worried. I'm just wondering why I'm there. I should be null at worst.

Everyone is town until proven otherwise.

[Aj The Epic]

this feels like you are trying to twist it onto me a bit. the use of the word 'then' in particular.

No, I simply planned to call your scum reads lurkers since I already knew them. Technically, I am a lurker this game, so I pose the same question back to you.

Nacho, yeah I attacked Orc for being an AtE player. But that's a true part of his process. There's nothing denying that. Other than that, I'm sorry I'm having a shit game. Not going to go into preservation mode.

if you think it is a playstyle thing then why did you attack him?

Can you use AtE? I bet you can. It's not all that hard. I simply dislike it as a legitimate play style. Too easy to fake either way.

[Mac]

this feels like you are trying to twist it onto me a bit. the use of the word 'then' in particular.

No, I simply planned to call your scum reads lurkers since I already knew them. Technically, I am a lurker this game, so I pose the same question back to you.

what?

[Aj The Epic]

your scumreads are all lurkers?

Half your scum reads are lurkers?

[Mac]

your scumreads are all lurkers?

Half your scum reads are lurkers?

1) half of my

strong

scumreads are lurking (and even then, that is ONE PERSON)
2) you are self admitting lurking
3)

all

of your scumreads are lurkers
4) are you attacking my scumreads here? I don't know what the fuck this is