Gears of War Mafia - ( Game Over! )

Mac · Post Post #3550 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 1:41 pm

I've changed my mind.

that's allowed, right?

Messiah was a massive suspicion to me yesterday, hence I agreed with you. now he's not.

Angelious Nero · Post Post #3551 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 1:43 pm

So...whats your full case?

The Goat · Post Post #3552 (ISO) » Mon May 27, 2013 3:12 pm

Responding to prod - was waiting for others to state their case.

AN, please direct me to your theory. TIA.

guille2015 · Post Post #3553 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 7:22 am

Why would Scum-AN keep talking about a KoC mislynch if they would know that KoC Will flip scum.

guille2015 · Post Post #3554 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 8:04 am

In post 3543, Angelious Nero wrote:
In post 3535, guille2015 wrote:Nero: I want you to answer my question above.
you know you're supposed to scum and not town, right? Or is it the other way around for you?

This makes no sense. I assuming this is a typo. Your suppose to tell us why it is stupid to Lynch you if KoC were scum. Just like you promised in 2883.

Angelious Nero · Post Post #3555 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 2:44 pm

In post 3552, The Goat wrote: AN, please direct me to your theory. TIA.

And you wonder why you were pissing me off yesterday.

My theory was that I think the last scum is in the claimed prs (you, gullie, messiah and MsM from yesterday), I also said that I think each scum team is similar in nature. You can read about it in 3461.

Messiah, can I get a full list of your actions.

Messiah · Post Post #3556 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 5:48 am

In post 3527, Angelious Nero wrote:Mac, I'd like to see your full case on us please. I'm a tad bit concerned how Mac was agreeing with me and kind of budding me and then flips a switch and calls me scum the next day.

I saw this again and it occurred to me.. You do realize Mac had you as his primary suspect before yesterday, right?

Messiah · Post Post #3557 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 5:49 am

In post 3553, guille2015 wrote:Why would Scum-AN keep talking about a KoC mislynch if they would know that KoC Will flip scum.

I'm confused, Guille. Who do you actually think is scum?

Messiah · Post Post #3558 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 5:56 am

In post 3555, Angelious Nero wrote:Messiah, can I get a full list of your actions.

PC N1
Bork N2 but was sent results on Buldermar
Bacde N3
DGB N4

After that it's all Goat.

guille2015 · Post Post #3559 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 5:57 am

Mac or AN. I haven't decided yet.

AN is the most obvious, mostly because he has been completely and utterly wrong the entire game on every single read he was given. Then KOC connection. Given also that Slaandar and Koc almost never mention AN and viceversa.

My concern, is that I don't know why scum would want to act like KoC will be a mislynch when they know as a fact that he wont. I'm asking here the more experience players of this. I've been playing for about 2 years (1 here). And that's something I have not seen scum do.

Nero Cain · Post Post #3560 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 8:02 am

In post 3556, Messiah wrote:
In post 3527, Angelious Nero wrote:Mac, I'd like to see your full case on us please. I'm a tad bit concerned how Mac was agreeing with me and kind of budding me and then flips a switch and calls me scum the next day.
I saw this again and it occurred to me.. You do realize Mac had you as his primary suspect before yesterday, right?

he only suspected me after I suspected him.

In post 3559, guille2015 wrote:Given also that Slaandar and Koc almost never mention AN and viceversa.

ditto for Mac.

I'd also counter that I've been utterly wrong all game long but I don't care enough to argue your point.

Mac is prob scum and it looks like my theory was prob wrong but I'm ok 1v1 against Mac 'cause I'll still win if I get lynched.

Nero Cain · Post Post #3561 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 8:13 am

Scum don't like to "make up cases" which is why I keep asking for Mac to give a full case.

Though I don't quite understand how Messiah got results on Buldemar on n2 unless someone is lying.

Messiah,

Who, if anyone, targeted PC?
Who, if anyone, targeted Buld?
Who, if anyone, targeted Bacde?
Who, if anyone, targeted DGB?
Who, if anyone, targeted Goat?

Mac · Post Post #3562 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 8:29 am

In post 3558, Messiah wrote:
In post 3555, Angelious Nero wrote:Messiah, can I get a full list of your actions.
PC N1

Bork N2 but was sent results on Buldermar

Bacde N3
DGB N4

After that it's all Goat.

what was the cause of this?

Mac · Post Post #3563 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 8:37 am

In post 3560, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3556, Messiah wrote:
In post 3527, Angelious Nero wrote:Mac, I'd like to see your full case on us please. I'm a tad bit concerned how Mac was agreeing with me and kind of budding me and then flips a switch and calls me scum the next day.
I saw this again and it occurred to me.. You do realize Mac had you as his primary suspect before yesterday, right?
he only suspected me after I suspected him.

haha. like that's any reason for me to be scum over you.

"I suspected him first so he must be scum!"

that's not how it works. what actually happened was you tunneled the shit out of me day one, linking me to every man and his dog and continued to do so. I started to suspect you due to your lack of content on the days following day one; and my read was helped by Angel prancing about and saying stupid, scummy shit. yesterday, I found you town because I thought Ms M was scum. she wasn't & I'm back to you.

In post 3560, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3559, guille2015 wrote:Given also that Slaandar and Koc almost never mention AN and viceversa.
ditto for Mac.

I'd also counter that I've been utterly wrong all game long but I don't care enough to argue your point.

Mac is prob scum and it looks like my theory was prob wrong but I'm ok 1v1 against Mac 'cause I'll still win if I get lynched.

omg nero said I was likely town yesterday and has now flipped in a 180!!!

Mac · Post Post #3564 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 8:49 am

case on Nero

stems from alot of things. first of all, we have the mass amounts of posts made on day one then sauntering his way through the rest of the days.

2nd;

In post 1451, Mac wrote:
In post 1450, Angelious Nero wrote:why this day hasn't ended yet. oh people..scum just dragging this day!!!

AA
> Wants this day to end
> Vote is on a pretty much dead wagon

Logic doesn't fit. You are dragging the day out yourself.

this is basically the epitomy of trying to blend in as town. "come on let's get a lynch and end the day!"

whilst not contributing towards ending the fucking day.

this is kinda like a scumslip but then again not so similar.

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE SCUMS!

In post 2630, Mac wrote:All you need to do to get on this lynch is look at this:

In post 1893, Angelious Nero wrote:hrmmm..I had thought it was funny that Ma Jiffy wasn't defending the fuck out of his girl.

KOC, the Piratecat slot is scum 'cause they are accusing Slandaar of lying but not voting it.

vote:Piratecat
To me, I read this as "let's find more reasons to support Slandaar's bullshit claim" and at the same time not be associated with Slandaar.

look at this post. it is outrageous. the last line sums up the reason why it's scummy; it's a roundabout way of defending Slandaar and edging people towards PC. at this point, all we have is Slandaar's masonizing result and not Messiah's, and yet Nero still needs to find another way to find PC suspicious, rather than sheep Slandaar. the killer is that he keeps his vote here for the entire day, despite posting after Messiah's results.

it took nero 2754 posts to make a case against me, and I dismantled it with relative ease. whereas Nero could probably counter none of these points.

Messiah · Post Post #3565 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 9:58 am

The only thing I ever saw was qwints at Buldermar. The different result was a mod error, he confused "Bork" with "Buld."

Nero Cain · Post Post #3566 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 11:42 am

???? so you watched Bork and the mod screwed up and sent you the results of Buld? ok kewl.

Nero Cain · Post Post #3567 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 11:45 am

I'll of course respond to Mac's pile of bullshit later tonight when I get home.

The Goat · Post Post #3568 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 1:46 pm

Nero: I do not think that the remaining scum is in the claimed PR. I think it's you or Mac. I'm willing to go in that order.

The above posts, along with the case from DGB, is pretty damning.

Nero Cain · Post Post #3569 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 3:22 pm

In post 3563, Mac wrote:
In post 3560, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3556, Messiah wrote:
In post 3527, Angelious Nero wrote:Mac, I'd like to see your full case on us please. I'm a tad bit concerned how Mac was agreeing with me and kind of budding me and then flips a switch and calls me scum the next day.
I saw this again and it occurred to me.. You do realize Mac had you as his primary suspect before yesterday, right?
he only suspected me after I suspected him.

1. haha. like that's any reason for me to be scum over you
.
"I suspected him first so he must be scum!"
that's not how it works. what actually happened was you tunneled the shit out of me day one,
2.linking me to every man and his dog and continued to do so.
I started to suspect you
3.due to your lack of content on the days following day one
; and my read was helped by Angel prancing about and saying stupid, scummy shit. yesterday, I found you town because I thought Ms M was scum. she wasn't & I'm back to you.

1. My role pm says that I'm town so....though the point was that...Messiah was claiming that you weren't scummy for suspecting me 'cause you had previously suspected me so I was merely pointing out that you did not suspect me until I started calling for your head.
2. I linked you to three players, 2 of which were scum 'cause you know, that's what you're supposed to do after there's a scum flip. The other was GIF whom I said you may have been bussin' since I did then and still do now, think that you heavily implied you found him scummy.
3. I don't remember you ever calling me out on my "lack of content". In fact that's pretty hypocritical of you since you lurked all of day two.

Venmar · Post Post #3570 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 3:30 pm

Votecount 8.2

[L-3] Guille2015:

[L-3] Messiah:

[L-2]

Angelious Nero:

Mac

[L-3] The Goat:

[L-3] Mac:

Not Voting

Guille2015, Messiah, Angelious Nero, The Goat

Deadline

June 4th, 2013

Mod Notes

I do not believe anybody is V/LA.. I might be wrong however.

Nero Cain · Post Post #3571 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 5:57 pm

In post 3564, Mac wrote:
In post 1893, Angelious Nero wrote:hrmmm..I had thought it was funny that Ma Jiffy wasn't defending the fuck out of his girl.

KOC, the Piratecat slot is scum 'cause they are accusing Slandaar of lying but not voting it.

vote:Piratecat
To me, I read this as "let's find more reasons to support Slandaar's bullshit claim" and at the same time not be associated with Slandaar.
look at this post. it is outrageous. the last line sums up the reason why it's scummy; it's a roundabout way of defending Slandaar and edging people towards PC. at this point, all we have is Slandaar's masonizing result and not Messiah's, and yet Nero still needs to find another way to find PC suspicious, rather than sheep Slandaar. the killer is that he keeps his vote here for the entire day, despite posting after Messiah's results.

the above post is terrible.

First of all he's calling Slandaar's fakeclaim bullshit but he didn't vote him.
He's calling me scummy for not voting Slandaar when he did the same so its super duper hypocritical.
The post that he's quoting was made

BEFORE

Slandar claimed anything so how can I be supporting a claim when he hasn't claimed.

and I dismantled it with relative ease.

lol.

Nero Cain · Post Post #3572 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 6:01 pm

So yeah, I want to trust Mara's read and she was convinced that Mac was scum. So Either lynch Mac and win or mislynch me and pray that ya'll don't mislynch tomorrow.

vote:Mac

Messiah · Post Post #3573 (ISO) » Thu May 30, 2013 2:19 pm

I intend to make my final-but-maybe-not decision between Nero and Mac and share whatever thoughts I have on everyones cases sometime soon. We all seem to be in agreement that scum is in there.

Tonight, though, I will suffer through my food poisoning in bed. I'll try to skip my weekend V/LA again this weekend hopefully, I don't think the game could handle that without stalling outright at this point.

guille2015 · Post Post #3574 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 3:20 am

I can't distinguish play between Mac and AN. Both have about the same interaction with read. Mac mentioned that AN is likely Red scum when most thought that Rubicon was the last red.

If I were to Sheep DGB, I'd go with an AN lynch.

Either way I find Messiah and Goat Uterly Town. Probability of them being Red is nil. Probability of them being 3rd party, very very low. With that, the only two suspicions for me are Mac and AN so, with two days of lynches, it should be fine.

I'll go follow Messiah's decision on this. I'll keep scouring the ISOs to see if I find anything.