Open 493 - Jungle Republic. (Game Over - Werewolf Victory)

Bulbazak · Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 9:41 am

I don't see Egg as mafia, just based on how he's phrased his posts. If he is, he's very clever to try to control the NK.

Bacde · Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 9:55 am

Just looked at the old VCs, Egg actually makes a lot of sense as a wolf

Bacde · Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 9:56 am

And Bulb I wanna say I'm sorry for not giving your posts the full "believe in him" readthrough when you were accusing egg, at that point in time I thought you were mafia

Bacde · Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 9:58 am

Why would Egg kill DBK though?

scum do crazy things sometimes

Bacde · Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 10:02 am

Everything considered, I'd STILL rather lynch PP today though

Bulbazak · Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 10:14 am

In post 1428, Bacde wrote:Why would Egg kill DBK though?

scum do crazy things sometimes

I explained why. Bo was riding the null line. Sure people (apparently) had him as town, but I remember it always being an uneasy read. If Bo was mafia, Egg eliminated one more of the opposing team. If Bo was town, Egg eliminated a potentially influential townie. It was a win-win.

kuribo · Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 10:15 am

In post 1421, Bulbazak wrote:Why aren't you voting then?

Because deadline isnt an issue, and we arent done talking.

im perfectly willing to hammer, though id like to see princess come back to the thread and see. if she has any last words before i administer her last rites and send her to hell

Bacde · Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 10:31 am

agreed

Egg · Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 11:40 am

Bulb, "universal scum read" doesn't mean "scum". You are making a big leap from that statement to your question.

I'm worrying now more than ever that you guys are going to let Bulbscum tear this game open and win.

Bulbazak · Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 11:58 am

Still, why were you willing to vote yourself to save her? It's not the most optimal move, no matter how you look at it. What were you afraid of? Or was it that you were hoping people would take your action as a sign of your townishness?

Syryana · Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 12:03 pm

In post 1420, kuribo wrote: mac and syr may as well be masons together

Wut.

In post 1422, Bacde wrote:wow I'm seeing egg scum now

No kidding. I can't believe how completely my read on him has reversed.

Bulbazak · Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 12:06 pm

In post 1435, Syryana wrote:
In post 1422, Bacde wrote:wow I'm seeing egg scum now
No kidding. I can't believe how completely my read on him has reversed.

I think Kuribo entering in and playing extremely town has him against the ropes. He no longer has the out (the TNE push) that he used to.

Egg · Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 12:31 pm

Bulb, I am sure enough that princess and syryana are town that if lynching me could keep them alive, I was willing to do it. Two townies surviving to endgame is a guaranteed win. Winning is more important than survivng. But you'll just say I want town points so just remember it post game for future reference. Princess is being lynched today. Me tomorrow. Two NKs. If mafia isn't killed at night, we are looking at 2 town, 1 wolf, 1 mafia. Only way to win is lynching the wolf and mafia back to back with the mafia's help getting the wolf first. Sucks to see that happen when we started out so well.

Egg · Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 12:36 pm

This town is like a brick wall. No one considers whether things can be wrong or not. "Here's my scum read. Let's lynch it"

Egg · Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 12:36 pm

For the record, I've avoided joining games that Kuribo is in before...

Bulbazak · Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 12:44 pm

In post 1437, Egg wrote:Bulb, I am sure enough that princess and syryana are town that if lynching me could keep them alive, I was willing to do it. Two townies surviving to endgame is a guaranteed win.

But still, you have to also consider that if Princess is town, is she the type of town that you'd want to survive to endgame (since you are thinking about it). Some town reads are worth dying for, others aren't. Why is Princess the former townread. And again, nobody mentioned Syryana. Why do those 2 (Princess, Syryana) have to make it to the end and not any of the other members of the town? It seems as if you're setting up a false dilemma here ("Princess or Syryana was going to be lynched, so I offered myself up."). And as always, there are other ways to deal with the situation rather than offer yourself up as a lynch.

In post 1438, Egg wrote:This town is like a brick wall. No one considers whether things can be wrong or not. "Here's my scum read. Let's lynch it"

I think that's a gross misrepresentation of the play this game.

Egg · Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 12:59 pm

In a hypothetical 3 player endgame where princess and syryana are there and assumed town, the third player gets lynched and town wins. It doesn't matter who it is as long as they are town. I've said why I'm so sure they are town more than enough times and am being shot down by the two people I think are scum.

No one cares enough to look at these things hence the brick wall.

Bulbazak · Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 1:06 pm

Your Princess assumption is crap. Nobody is going to go into Lylo and automatically assume 2 people are town, because somebody else said so. Unless those 2 are confirmed town, they are under just as much suspicion in Lylo as everyone else. Princess especially would be dangerous in Lylo if she's town, because she'd be easy mislynch fodder, and if we're right, and she's scum, you've essentially handed her the game. Even if I had a town read on Princess, there'd be no way that I'd want her in Lylo.

Egg · Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 1:17 pm

*sigh*

kuribo · Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 1:32 pm

In post 1435, Syryana wrote:Wut.

i'm saying you're both incredibly fucking town

kuribo · Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 1:33 pm

In post 1439, Egg wrote:For the record, I've avoided joining games that Kuribo is in before...

THE FEAR

goodmorning · Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 1:39 pm

Aaaaand Princess still hasn't been lynched. I'm beginning to suspect that this will remain the case for the rest of the Day.

Egg, why so desperate? Are you Town with the "I'm the only competent one" outlook or are you Scum? Either way it kind of makes me want to lynch you instead of Princess.

Side note:

In post 1439, Egg wrote:For the record, I've avoided joining games that Kuribo is in before...

Haha, for the record I've gone out of my way to join a game that kuribo was in. He's awfully fun, though I think it would give me a headache to play him more than once or twice every three months.

kuribo · Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 3:04 pm

In post 1446, goodmorning wrote:Haha, for the record I've gone out of my way to join a game that kuribo was in. He's awfully fun, though I think it would give me a headache to play him more than once or twice every three months.

i seriously don't remember ever playing with you

zabriel · Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 3:28 pm

Princess Proton has been prodded

goodmorning · Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2013 4:00 pm

In post 1447, kuribo wrote:
In post 1446, goodmorning wrote:Haha, for the record I've gone out of my way to join a game that kuribo was in. He's awfully fun, though I think it would give me a headache to play him more than once or twice every three months.
i seriously don't remember ever playing with you

Hardly surprising considering I was TS Eliot at the time.