MICRO 172: DRAGON BALL Z [TOWN WIN]

[TheIrishPope]

So we lynch him either way <3

[fferyllt]

well hamlet is gonna come in and either say vegito is lying and try to push for vegito's lynch, or hamlet will say that they are a power role so that's why they visited pim. so.............

You are like that owl that bites into the center of the tootsie roll pop.

[mrbungle]

why is it an owl lol

[fferyllt]

it's a mystery.

[mrbungle]

After Vegito claims whatever happened w/ hamlet we are going to massclaim btw

i am piccolo the executioner, and i wanna flip hamlet

[fferyllt]

I am Hercule, the town miller fisherman and I also want to flip hamlet.

[TheIrishPope]

Then go go go

[fferyllt]

I expected at least an indrawn breath.

[TheIrishPope]

Breathing is for losers and scum

[mrbungle]

hamlet you are at L2 and I'm an executioner which means that I can kill you right now if I wish. so get in here and say what you have to say

[TheIrishPope]

L-1*

[mrbungle]

hamlet that was not an idle threat, i will lynch you within 24 hours if you don't show up

[Bacde]

so does bungle seem suspicious to anyone else yet?

[chkflip]

DAY II VOTE COUNT I

1. TheIrishPope (0)
2. sword_of_omens (0)
3. fferyllt (0)
5. mrbungle (0)
7. Vegito (0)
8. Bacde (0)
9. Hamlet (3) - mrbungle, Vegito, TheIrishPope

[fferyllt]

so does bungle seem suspicious to anyone else yet?

I read part of mrbungle's newbie game with Nacho last night. His play style got on several players' nerves. But, I thought the other players were mostly being stupid about it. He's toned it down some in this game, but replacing in so close to nightfall made his rapid-fire style advantageous.

The one thing that stands out in his play compared to the newbie game (I've read partway through day 2 so far) was his voting Ghostlin despite claiming to see nothing in his iso that said scum. He used his vote liberally day 1 of the newbie game, moved it around almost every time he shifted his focus of questioning, and almost always indicated he was willing to lynch the person he was voting. Though, for a pressure vote to have any weight at all, you have to look sincerely willing to lynch the player.

I'm somewhat skeptical about meta I didn't personally experience, so I'm reading that game page by page, not skimming his iso.

So, right now, I'm not feeling strong suspicions.

I'd like to hear from Nacho about this.

I'm also feeling like town is seriously overpowered, even with a nexus and a miller.

[mrbungle]

fferyllt in this game i dont have a pirate mollie to push me over the brink towards insanity

[fferyllt]

I've been told that my play style is similar to hers. I don't see it.

[mrbungle]

and if you wanna know why I voted for ghostlin.... well so do I lol. it came down to everyone else being either confirmed town or a very strong town read.

there is this thing that occasionally happens on tl where people decide that none of the wagons are any good and everyone scrambles to throw together a last minute lynch. bandwagons pop up every 5 minutes and you never know who's about to reach l-1 by the next time you refresh the page. so people go from one wagon to the next, being careless with votes and generally not giving a fuck. eventually you find a bandwagon that everyone likes, and nobody can think of a good reason not to lynch that person. and the surprising thing is often these lynches result in scum lynches. they have a better success rate than lurker lynches even. it's sorta like musical chairs in that scum have to be more cautious with their vote, therefore they can't really keep up with the pace of everyone else, and eventually it sorta becomes obvious who should get lynched.

and from my point of view that is what happened yesterday. i hated both the pope and the vegito lynch and i wanted to kill a lurker so i pushed who i thought was the scummiest of them, sword. then he came in the thread and said some things that made me hate the sword lynch, so myself and everyone else backed down off that. then vegito brought up the bacde lynch which i thought was dumb, and turns out, it was a dumb lynch. so at that point I had vegito, pope, sword, bcade, and pimhelm all as people who i didn't want to lynch. i should probably include fferylit in that group as i had a town read on her, just not as strong as the others. so that leaves ghost+hamlet. i probably would have voted either of them honestly

bcade, for me the main thing that caused the ghost lynch was the post that saved the town

[mrbungle]

I've been told that my play style is similar to hers. I don't see it.

i really, really hope she was trolling in that game. i really, really hope that wasn't her best effort

[mrbungle]

irishpope, you double voting scum

Fixed.

hamlet..... your clock is ticking.... i'm getting bored....

[fferyllt]

and if you wanna know why I voted for ghostlin.... well so do I lol. it came down to everyone else being either confirmed town or a very strong town read.

there is this thing that occasionally happens on tl where people decide that none of the wagons are any good and everyone scrambles to throw together a last minute lynch. bandwagons pop up every 5 minutes and you never know who's about to reach l-1 by the next time you refresh the page. so people go from one wagon to the next, being careless with votes and generally not giving a fuck. eventually you find a bandwagon that everyone likes, and nobody can think of a good reason not to lynch that person. and the surprising thing is often these lynches result in scum lynches. they have a better success rate than lurker lynches even. it's sorta like musical chairs in that scum have to be more cautious with their vote, therefore they can't really keep up with the pace of everyone else, and eventually it sorta becomes obvious who should get lynched.

and from my point of view that is what happened yesterday. i hated both the pope and the vegito lynch and i wanted to kill a lurker so i pushed who i thought was the scummiest of them, sword. then he came in the thread and said some things that made me hate the sword lynch, so myself and everyone else backed down off that. then vegito brought up the bacde lynch which i thought was dumb, and turns out, it was a dumb lynch. so at that point I had vegito, pope, sword, bcade, and pimhelm all as people who i didn't want to lynch. i should probably include fferylit in that group as i had a town read on her, just not as strong as the others. so that leaves ghost+hamlet. i probably would have voted either of them honestly

bcade, for me the main thing that caused the ghost lynch was the post that saved the town

The last minute scramble is something I like about the places other than MS where I have played. I haven't seen much of this kind of play here prior to this game. And I agree, the frequency of that kind of scramble netting scum is higher than one might expect. it's the town herd effect* versus the non-herd movements that scum players tend to make when the game suddenly moves fast.

[Vegito]

Hamlet got tracked to a dead guy and so he dies. that will end the game.

[mrbungle]

i already sent in the pm so i guess we'll find out out soon enough

[fferyllt]

Hamlet got tracked to a dead guy and so he dies. that will end the game.

My read on Nacho is flaking around the edges. If there's a day three there will be lead paint chips everywhere.

[mrbungle]

the only way nacho is getting lynched if there;s a D3 is if hamlet is a VT or a role that doesn't make him visit people

do you really think that the roles in this game is that town favored? that hamlet is some power role in addition to the masons and the million other claims?