Mini 1449 - Ordinary Town

[hapahauli]

Like I wouldn't mind you giving him the "benefit of the doubt" if there was a justification for it

anywhere

in your filter. Even an

implied

justification would do. But there's nothing.

[Cheery Pie]

Like I wouldn't mind you giving him the "benefit of the doubt" if there was a justification for it

anywhere

in your filter. Even an

implied

justification would do. But there's nothing.

I thought I did post it somewhere, but must have just left it in the hydra qt, doesn't matter as whether or not it is shown to you, I can't prove it otherwise.

(but it was basically how I've seen him play in other games, the quickwagon against him and that he was obviously not scum with Jake who I was scumreading at the time)

and I did go through more than just he one I've played with him at a skim and didn't really see the whole anti-town thing being completely different from his normal mindset, basically similar.

[GoodCopBadCop]

CP is town. Scott and Hp are acfan's scum partners.

That's my conclusion of this game.

- GC

[GoodCopBadCop]

VOTE: Hp

[hapahauli]

@ Cheery

The crux of my suspicions against you are two things right now:
1) Your reaction to the initial ac1983fan wagon.
2) Your suspicion on Varsoon.

When I first bring up the case on ac1983fan, you respond wiht this post...
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p4956397
...in which you completely ignore

all

the analysis on AC, post that it was a "quick wagon", then proceed to spread suspicion on several other players.

As for #2, your Varsoon suspicions seem really forced, and you're clearly not taking into account some

strong

vote-count evidence that suggests that Varsoon was town. Did you consider how ac1983fan jumped on the Varsoon wagon (when the Varsoon wagon was gaining TONS of steam), and wanted to vote Varsoon

solely

for the reason that he was anti-town rather than scummy? AC's actions overwhelmingly suggest that Varsoon is town, and probably near confirms him as town.

[hp [leaves]]

Hey guys guess who I roleblocked last night.

VOTE: Scott Brosius

[hp [leaves]]

Also I shot Kuribo the first night so the Doctor should have two confirmed innocents by now.

[hp [leaves]]

Or not. Double kill =/

[GoodCopBadCop]

post_id=4991433 time=1369823891 user_id=10128]Also I shot Kuribo the first night so the Doctor should have two confirmed innocents by now.

What? You shot kuribo?

Can you claim fully please.

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

trying to get a hold of dashie, I personally don't believe the claim but since she is the expert when it comes to setups since she is a reviewer, she will know if this claim is even remotely possible.

Dashie was contemplating if it was time for mass claim, I disagree that it is but I do agree that hp should claim his full role (though I can kind of figure it out)

[Dyslexicon]

Regardless, I'm really nervous of claims that are given in regards to scum-flips.

considering what happened to you, I totally understand where you are coming from.

but you have to look at the context of how we claimed. we tried to avoid claiming, we just pushed really really hard. when people started talking about ac being town because his claim change, that is when I had to say something.

it's that kind of behavior that really doesn't make sense if I was scum with AC, going through that much work for a bus while possible form your pov, it's a very elaborate bus. And as Hap said, if we are still alive before we get to MYLO we can discuss this again.

-J

p.edit - have to read in in detail, but I can't imagine anything you have typed would have me vote scott over HP.

I don't town read Scott at all, but I have him higher than you simply because of your tapdance around AC's lynch yesterday. :shrug:

my order would be HP/CP & Dyslx (about even), you. Scott probably 4th I guess

[Dyslexicon]

^Sorry, really tired. I meant to say that this makes sense, and eases my mind about you.

What is up with HP? =/

[Toomai]

Well I have SB on my list of scummy people.

Vote: Scott Brosius

I like the claim, it feels in line with the setup so far (not elaborating, might give scum outs).

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

Dashie says we should not be lynching anyone yet. The fact that we had only 1 NK night 1, someone else out there has to have stopped the kill.

Also I personally wonder why hp would use a kill n1 vs a block or whatever else he may have.

Dashie feels we should be mass claiming. Hp starts and popcorns.

[Scott Brosius]

Town roleblocker is such a scum claim. Also having the potential to kill? Please.

leaves you have mentioned me once all game...suggesting you thought I was town? Why on earth would I be a RB option? Makes 0 sense. Why would you shoot kuribo N1? Makes 0 sense. None of this claim adds up.

Scum don't get to popcorn. I'm VT. Toomai claim.

Vote: hpleaves

I'll have time for a more comprehensive post tomorrow night. I still like Toomai for scum, hopping on literally EVERY single wagon, then meekishly jumping off the acfan wagon yesterday. And for believing this laughable claim. Obviously the leaves lynch takes precedent.

Wait...

post_id=4991433 time=1369823891 user_id=10128]Also I shot Kuribo the first night so the Doctor should have two confirmed innocents by now.

Who said there was a doctor?

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

I also want hp to explain his logic for killing kuribo & blocking SB as neither of those make sense from a town perspective. Zef was obv town and SB was on the scum wagon. The obvious blocks were CP or Hap

[Daemon385]

Yes a role who can kill and roleblock? Is there even a role that can do such a thing? I mean theoretically I guess there is. That is a very strange claim without more details for sure. I don't think a mass claim is such a good idea just yet. Maybe another day I'd say in my opinion or if something real insane goes down.

No one said there is a doctor but it is interesting that no one died last night. Even know we got a nice kill, what is the scum up to and who (maybe saved a life) has been running through my head.

As much as I am unsure of Scott being town, and I'm not very sure he is. This role claim does need to be clarified.

[Scott Brosius]

Yes a role who can kill and roleblock? Is there even a role that can do such a thing? I mean theoretically I guess there is. That is a very strange claim without more details for sure. I don't think a mass claim is such a good idea just yet. Maybe another day I'd say in my opinion or if something real insane goes down.

No one said there is a doctor but it is interesting that no one died last night. Even know we got a nice kill, what is the scum up to and who (maybe saved a life) has been running through my head.

As much as I am unsure of Scott being town, and I'm not very sure he is. This role claim does need to be clarified.

Well if he claims to have roleblocked me and is voting me, it's pretty apparent that he thinks he blocked a kill. So why the "doctor has 2 confirmeds!" comment, unless he knows he didn't block me and his scum kill simply failed to go through so he assumes there is a doctor.

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

good catch by SB. How would a theoretical doctor have 2 cleared. It should be 1.

Dat slip

[Cheery Pie]

@ Cheery

The crux of my suspicions against you are two things right now:
1) Your reaction to the initial ac1983fan wagon.
2) Your suspicion on Varsoon.

1) Righto, well you would be suspicious of my reaction since it didn't coincide with your own. I see nothing wrong with reacting to the speed of a wagon and being worried by it.
2) I still feel there's plenty to be suspicious about. You don't agree? Fine. Besides I've (pieceofpecanpie) been voted early game by ac1983 before when we were scum just, you know, putting it out there that scum

can

vote each other. I could turn that "your [..] suspicions seem really forced" line back on you in regards to me. Since you first started raising your "scum, scum" voice at me it's felt like you've just been filling in the blanks as to why I am scum. Reads like confirmation bias.

[Cheery Pie]

I think Scott's interpretation is good. Looks like HP just slipped.

VOTE: hp leaves

[hp [leaves]]

JoaT.

Shot zef(Kuribo) N1
Blocked SB N2
Still have two actions left

[hp [leaves]]

Just because I can't logic does not mean I mafia

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

What part of FULL CLAIM did you miss.

Also answer my question.

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

I also want hp to explain his logic for killing kuribo & blocking SB as neither of those make sense from a town perspective. Zef was obv town and SB was on the scum wagon. The obvious blocks were CP or Hap