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I would rather be as sure as possible on D1 about someone being scum, however, I think rmpeacoc has become the most scummy so far. I'm only going toIn post 146, Xiao Long wrote:If she's town in this game, I'd still rather her be D1 lynch at this point in time.FoS: rmpeacocat the moment, but
...and...In post 69, rmpeacoc wrote:I hope you're having a heart attack tomorrow IF you get me lynched and WHEN I flip town.
...seem pretty contradictory, although I could be missing something.In post 122, rmpeacoc wrote:Also I never said if I was lynched it would be a ML.- rmpeacoc
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I'm going to try to get to everything here.
If I'm 'dropping issues' its because I'm trying to respond to everything. I do find it interesting that you say I'm dropping issues but you don't give specific examples. From now on I'd appreciate if you would quote my words in a quote rather than trying to summarize what you think I was saying.
@Xiao>>Spoiler:
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Is there a reason that very few people in this game are willing to use specifics/quoting? It helps a lot. I feel like I have to go searching for support or where I may have said something. Please realize that I came to MS from EpicMafia which is chat style mafia. I'm not used to games going on for days or months so periodically I will forget what has been said. One time I even claimed my role from another game because I got confused. I'm still getting used to forum mafia.
P-Edit. You are all missing the point I'm trying to make here. I'm trying to say that they are basically misrepping me. I NEVER SAID if I was lynched it would be a ML, I said I will flip town, I said Feel free to ML me. There is a difference. Maybe it's minute but I'm trying to make people realize that you need to quote the actual words.
But at this rate seriously just ml me. I'm not going to keep fighting like this. It's been so petty that you're making ME feel like I have to be petty. Again, check my meta. I'm ALWAYS scum read at the beginning of a game.
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a lynch of someone who is not scum. I know where you're going with this. I'll say it again, only because I'm here (inb4 I get attacked for saying i'm leaving... I am leaving, and if I respond it will be simple ones like this. I refuse to be attacked).
I did say I would flip town. I did not say 'lynching me will be a ml' or anything of the sort. Xiao and Fear continue to make it look as though I'm trying to convince you all that I am town. The statement that I made was that You can all feel free to ml me if I'm hurting the town. In other words I'm willing to be sacrificed if it will in fact help.I'm trying to make the point here that I am being misrepresented-- which I in fact am. If you don't feel that I am it's all fine and dandy, but I think that the way that you say things makes you come off a certain way. Xiao is trying to make me look more scummy than I feel like I look, and the way that I am defending myself is not helping me. Instead it is hurting the town.
So you can all stop trying to say I'm terrible and go read my completely games, because this happens to me every time. In this case I happen to be in a game with a few people who are extremely rude and hurtful. This is no longer fun.- Fear the poster
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So rmpea, you think that there is a real difference between saying that you are fine to be mislynched and saying 'I am a mislynch' but not between Xiao's 'I don't know because I've never been a cop' and the words you put in hai mouth which were 'I don't know what I would do as a cop'
I'm not terribly sorry if you think I'm rude and hurtful. Aggression helps me make good reads and being directly confrontational and generating reactions helps with that. You need to grow a thicker skin if you have that much problem with being accused.
You also need to take a deep breath and reread my case on you which had nothing to do with when you joined the thread but how you joined the thread. That is an important distinction and if you can't see the difference I don't know what to tell you.- pitoli
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@Fear
I admitted there that I made the mistake in my wording. However you all know what he said and the point I'm trying to make here, which is that because he claims to not know what he would do as cop because he has never been cop, he seems noob. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
As far as why I'm upset, I'm not so much talking about you. In fact you have not once called me a name or personally attacked me. You've been a dick play-wise, but that i can handle. What I can't handle right now is Xiao tearing me town. If I narrow it down, these are the kind of things that I find insulting:
In post 100, Xiao Long wrote:I really do think you have some difficulty comprehending.In post 125, Xiao Long wrote:Is English your first language?In post 146, Xiao Long wrote:she seems to fuck over town more than anything
^^This is bullshit. All of it. It's rude and hurtful. It's not about needing to have a thicker skin I don't approve of ANYONE talking to ANYONE this way. I'm willing to admit when I make mistakes, but I don't expect to be treated this way by anyone. If you think I'm misunderstanding something you tell me I'm misunderstanding and explain it. You don't call me names and say shit like this. It's extremely unnecessary and it detracts from the fun of the game, because now I am self-conscious about how I'm playing. I'm an SE yes, but as Jon said all we have done is play a few games. It's not like I'm the most experienced person every. As I said I'll admin when I have made a mistake. I just don't appreciate people who tear someone down the way that he has been.
The one place where Xiao says I was taking things to a personal level with him is in post 105. However I did not mean to make anything personal there. My point was that his points AT THAT POINT seemed very noob-ish to me and that he's not assisting town, instead he seems to be against everyone which I don't agree with. It was not meant to be a personal attack and I was not referring to anything outside of this game. I'm honestly still just irritated he's not even helping us get a read on him. Again I agree with hypothetical situations helping to get a read. Even if you disagree I don't see a reason to not answer the question.- pitoli
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What do you find scummy exactly?In post 151, JerryArr wrote:
I would rather be as sure as possible on D1 about someone being scum, however, I think rmpeacoc has become the most scummy so far. I'm only going toIn post 146, Xiao Long wrote:If she's town in this game, I'd still rather her be D1 lynch at this point in time.FoS: rmpeacocat the moment- rmpeacoc
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Been doing some extra curricular reading. Rmpea does say this shit in other games. I wanted to let this play out but her anger feels very much like the genuine anger of a townie who does not see why they are being bandwagoned and not that of a scum who knows they have been caught out.In post 43, rmpeacoc wrote:
Glad you said it firstIn post 36, bubbajack8 wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if there is a scum on the rmp wagon. I don't like sheeps.
Wagonning during RVS is such a scum move imo. Find a way to RANDOM VOTE. it's not a 'random lynch' idiots. Mislynch means that if you lynch wrong town can still survive. Anyway you don't want to lynch me since i'm town.
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Jerry, explain your weak bandwagon onto rmpea. This is the towniest she has looked all game, why jump on now? And a fos? Explain yourself.
Xiao and pit, I don't think rmpea is a good lynch any more. Jump ship.- Xiao Long
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I didn't understand rmpeacoc saying she'll flip down if she's lynched, and then saying that she never said a lynch on her would be a mislynch.In post 160, pitoli wrote:
What do you find scummy exactly?In post 151, JerryArr wrote:
I would rather be as sure as possible on D1 about someone being scum, however, I think rmpeacoc has become the most scummy so far. I'm only going toIn post 146, Xiao Long wrote:If she's town in this game, I'd still rather her be D1 lynch at this point in time.FoS: rmpeacocat the moment
After Xiao become more towny in my eyes, and me not seeing anything from lortaku recently (my initial read was admittedly lacking), rmpeacoc was next on my reads list, and it seemed she had contradicted herself. As for me FoS'ing, after what happened earlier with my vote on Xiao, I'm not taking chances with my actual vote until I am solid on where I want my vote to go. I certainly won't be voting her now that she'll be gone until Saturday.In post 163, Fear the poster wrote: Jerry, explain your weak bandwagon onto rmpea. This is the towniest she has looked all game, why jump on now? And a fos? Explain yourself.- Xiao Long
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You're saying it's the towniest she's looked all game, but keep in mind she didn't look town at all before what Jerr said, and it's a bit much to be saying he's jumping ship since he didn't even drop a vote. However, he's being really cautious with his vote, and that makes me question him. I don't know about jumping on a wagon for him atm though, his next posts will give me a better idea.In post 163, Fear the poster wrote:
Jerry, explain your weak bandwagon onto rmpea. This is the towniest she has looked all game, why jump on now? And a fos? Explain yourself.
Xiao and pit, I don't think rmpea is a good lynch any more. Jump ship.- JerryArr
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So, from what I understand you are saying she contradicted herself (where?) and that there was one thing you didn't understand. How do either of those things make her scum?In post 165, JerryArr wrote:
I didn't understand rmpeacoc saying she'll flip down if she's lynched, and then saying that she never said a lynch on her would be a mislynch.In post 160, pitoli wrote:
What do you find scummy exactly?In post 151, JerryArr wrote:
I would rather be as sure as possible on D1 about someone being scum, however, I think rmpeacoc has become the most scummy so far. I'm only going toIn post 146, Xiao Long wrote:If she's town in this game, I'd still rather her be D1 lynch at this point in time.FoS: rmpeacocat the moment
After Xiao become more towny in my eyes, and me not seeing anything from lortaku recently (my initial read was admittedly lacking), rmpeacoc was next on my reads list, and it seemed she had contradicted herself. As for me FoS'ing, after what happened earlier with my vote on Xiao, I'm not taking chances with my actual vote until I am solid on where I want my vote to go. I certainly won't be voting her now that she'll be gone until Saturday.In post 163, Fear the poster wrote: Jerry, explain your weak bandwagon onto rmpea. This is the towniest she has looked all game, why jump on now? And a fos? Explain yourself.
Xiao, she looks town now and since before jerrbear piled on her.- Xiao Long
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When she said she'd be revealed as town if lynched (69), then said she didn't say that (122), that seemed contradictory to me, and I didn't understand why she wouldn't find it odd.In post 168, Fear the poster wrote: So, from what I understand you are saying she contradicted herself (where?) and that there was one thing you didn't understand. How do either of those things make her scum?
As for making her scum, it doesn't make her absolute for certain scum, but I'm still wary. She was climbing the scumread chart more because Xiao and lortaku fell off, although 69/122 didn't help for me.- pitoli
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I looked back and he didn't really do much to deserve being that high on my initial rankings. He hasn't posted here in awhile, but I'm guessing that's more forgetting about the game than lurking or something like that.In post 171, pitoli wrote:Jerr, what did lortaku do to get off your scumreads? He simply hasn't been around.- jon_h61
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I thought the same thing just now as I was reading, a logical fallacy I find myself doing occasionally.In post 147, pitoli wrote:
My chance of rolling scum in this game are completely independent from my previous games. It's faulty to think, "she's been mafia three times in a row, there's no way she can be mafia again".In post 146, Xiao Long wrote: In that case, I find it hard to believe that chance would have you scum 9/10 times. Your reads seem town too, so I see you as almost certainly town.
I see there's a lot of posts since I last accessed my browser, reading up now.- jon_h61
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FOSing while not voting someone already is a scum tell in my book. Why no vote? Seriously? We'd all like to be sure we have scum on Day 1, well except scum, but you'll never find out with a FOS. It just makes it appear you're doing something. Put a FOS on me and I'll just ignore it.In post 151, JerryArr wrote:I would rather be as sure as possible on D1 about someone being scum, however, I think rmpeacoc has become the most scummy so far. I'm only going to FoS: rmpeacoc at the moment, but
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