NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

mastin2 · Post Post #2825 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 9:02 am

Fify-third Official Votecount

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(First Votecount Day Two,

AKA, the "This weekend will be hell" votecount.

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Nachomamma8 - 1 (Bacde)
EddieFenix - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)

With

21

alive, it's

11

to lynch.

Day Two's deadline is Thursday, June 20th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-06-20 12:30:00).

mastin2, the moderator, is V/LA over the weekend.
AngryPidgeon, the co-mod, is V/LA over the weekend.

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Oooooh, boy...

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Spoiler: Player Votecount History D2

Spoiler: Votecount History D2

ISO · Post Post #2826 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 9:14 am

Quick glance at Ryu's ISO tells me Nacho, BabySpiceSlot and Nero Cain are not bluescum. Perhaps Desperado as well. BabySpiceSlot could very easily still be probablyredscum. Despite the extensive interactions with Thor I could still see them being scumbuddies. Maybe not from Thor's angle, though, I should take a look at that.

Need to look back at the early Ryu wagon, I bet there's a lot of info there.

EddieFenix · Post Post #2827 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 9:30 am

In post 2823, Amethyst Kitty wrote:OMG, Bacde no... I think I'm wrong about Nacho though I wouldn't mind you following me onto Eddie

VOTE: Eddie

Going back to where I ended yesterday, Fuck you guys for lynching OS though

Mollie, was it you who said KK was town or was it Jiffy because I want to know why KK is town...

~Mara

OverSoul got himself lynched because of his gambit. It lead A LOT of people not to trust him the 2nd time around. Also, barking up my tree is NOT the best idea. So, I'd advise you to stand down.

@Nacho

Seeing as how Bacde is going to come after you, let me ask... Is there a case you would like to make?

ffullisade · Post Post #2828 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:00 am

hi guys.

nacho, I hear from mollie that you are looking pretty scummy. tell me it ain't so.

what else do I need to know?

- fery

Kublai Khan · Post Post #2829 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:23 am

In post 2819, Bacde wrote:oh snaps this is multiball holy shit townpoints for everyone who called it!

You mean scum points right? Calling multiball before a flip is always scumm

You were one of the people calling it multiball, weren't you?

Bulbazak · Post Post #2830 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:25 am

Going to try something new:

Bulbazak's Hierarchy of Reads (D2)

Town

Nachomamma8
Eddie Fenix
Haylen
CrashTextDummy
Kublai Khan

Null/Town

Amethyst Kitty
Thor665

Null

PeregrineV
ThAdmiral
ArcAngel9
Thezmon221

Null/Scum

Cephrir
Desperado
penguin_alien
Ffullisade

Scum

Om the Destroyer
Slandaar
Nero Cain
Bacde
Seanald

Hopefully I can finish sorting through the nulls today, but I wouldn't exactly hold my breath as I'm flying by the seat of my pants. I didn't have the time I'd like to go through ISOs during the night, mainly due to some personal issues. Hopefully, it won't interfere much with my ability to play this game, but I've already had to pull out of some queues and limit myself to just the games I'm playing now. I'll do the best for as long as I can, but be prepared, if things go too far south at home, I'll probably have to replace out (and I hate doing that...).

Also, Red was Blue.

In post 2819, Bacde wrote:oh snaps this is multiball holy shit townpoints for everyone who called it!

No. In fact, I say we should probably do the opposite, as scum was more likely to know it was multi-ball.

In post 2820, Bacde wrote:I'm assuming the other mafia is red (since a red/blue dichotomy makes sense)

Nacho is obvredscum who shot red ryu for being a huge supporter of the nacho wagon, but also as an attempt to discredit the wagon by leaving the largest and towniest supporters alive

I bet he was hoping red ryu would flip scum to discredit the wagon

don't let it fool you boys

VOTE: Nacho

Besides this being a gigantic load of WIFOM, this theory is also horribad. Nacho is too good to do something as obvious and stupid as that. Odds are that it is either someone off of the Nacho wagon who wanted to keep suspicion on Nacho, or someone on the wagon who wanted to continue pushing the case for a mislynch.

In post 2824, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2822, Bacde wrote:Who wants to dig around for Red Ryu's partners?
I'm hunting red right now
but a town-team looking for blue scum would be awesome
why?

Because he's probably blue. Although if that's the case, Ryu's sheeping him was an incredibly stupid play. Nevermind, blue Bacde is unlikely because of that. It's probably red Bacde using WIFOM to throw everyone off of his trail.

Vote Bacde

Bacde · Post Post #2831 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:28 am

In post 2828, ffullisade wrote:hi guys.

nacho, I hear from mollie that you are looking pretty scummy. tell me it ain't so.

what else do I need to know?

- fery

Nacho is probably scum and probably about to shoot for Desp

He's pretty clearly setting up mislynches

In post 2829, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 2819, Bacde wrote:oh snaps this is multiball holy shit townpoints for everyone who called it!
You mean scum points right? Calling multiball before a flip is always scumm

You were one of the people calling it multiball, weren't you?

Yes! I wasn't the first, but after some people pointed it out I agreed

since there are a LOT of players being TOTALLY scummy who don't seem like they are on teams

Bacde · Post Post #2832 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:30 am

In post 2830, Bulbazak wrote:Besides this being a gigantic load of WIFOM, this theory is also horribad. Nacho is too good to do something as obvious and stupid as that. Odds are that it is either someone off of the Nacho wagon who wanted to keep suspicion on Nacho, or someone on the wagon who wanted to continue pushing the case for a mislynch.

if nacho is "too good" to do things then why has he sucked this game?

Bacde · Post Post #2833 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:30 am

In post 2830, Bulbazak wrote:Because he's probably blue. Although if that's the case, Ryu's sheeping him was an incredibly stupid play. Nevermind, blue Bacde is unlikely because of that. It's probably red Bacde using WIFOM to throw everyone off of his trail.

I can't wait til I'm nightkilled and you ahve to reread all my posts and are like

GAH I WAS WRONG WHY CANT I READ THIS BACDE GUY

Bulbazak · Post Post #2834 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:33 am

In post 2832, Bacde wrote:
In post 2830, Bulbazak wrote:Besides this being a gigantic load of WIFOM, this theory is also horribad. Nacho is too good to do something as obvious and stupid as that. Odds are that it is either someone off of the Nacho wagon who wanted to keep suspicion on Nacho, or someone on the wagon who wanted to continue pushing the case for a mislynch.
if nacho is "too good" to do things then why has he sucked this game?

I've seen him play worse and still be town. Plus, his play mid to late d1 was not only good, but gave me a solid town read. Again, you're going to need better than Burden of Proficiency and WIFOM to convince me that Nacho's scum.

Bacde · Post Post #2835 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:33 am

In post 2824, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2822, Bacde wrote:Who wants to dig around for Red Ryu's partners?
I'm hunting red right now
but a town-team looking for blue scum would be awesome
why?

Also, I made a mistake yesterday. It was Thez, not Bulb, that suggested a 7-8 man scum game.

because nacho/eddie are my top pick for scum pair and they don't make sense w/ Red Ryu I don't think

also I'm upset with myself for missing out on Red Ryu being scum so

I'm not opposed to lynching blue scum though, find me Ryu's partner and I'll vote him/her

ACTUALLY would nacho make sense as a team w/ red ryu? They mighta been bussing and I don't remember if nacho was on board with ryu-scum or not

Bulbazak · Post Post #2836 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:33 am

In post 2833, Bacde wrote:
In post 2830, Bulbazak wrote:Because he's probably blue. Although if that's the case, Ryu's sheeping him was an incredibly stupid play. Nevermind, blue Bacde is unlikely because of that. It's probably red Bacde using WIFOM to throw everyone off of his trail.
I can't wait til I'm nightkilled and you ahve to reread all my posts and are like

GAH I WAS WRONG WHY CANT I READ THIS BACDE GUY

AtE

Bacde · Post Post #2837 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:37 am

In post 2836, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 2833, Bacde wrote:
In post 2830, Bulbazak wrote:Because he's probably blue. Although if that's the case, Ryu's sheeping him was an incredibly stupid play. Nevermind, blue Bacde is unlikely because of that. It's probably red Bacde using WIFOM to throw everyone off of his trail.
I can't wait til I'm nightkilled and you ahve to reread all my posts and are like

GAH I WAS WRONG WHY CANT I READ THIS BACDE GUY
AtE

is there a purpose behind this post?

yes, I used AtE

ILL ADMIT IT WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE?

Bacde · Post Post #2838 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:38 am

In post 2834, Bulbazak wrote:I've seen him play worse and still be town. Plus, his play mid to late d1 was not only good, but gave me a solid town read. Again, you're going to need better than Burden of Proficiency and WIFOM to convince me that Nacho's scum.

In post 2830, Bulbazak wrote: Besides this being a gigantic load of WIFOM, this theory is also horribad. Nacho is too good to do something as obvious and stupid as that. Odds are that it is either someone off of the Nacho wagon who wanted to keep suspicion on Nacho, or someone on the wagon who wanted to continue pushing the case for a mislynch.

If nacho was bad, he woulda killed me instead of Ryu, the most commonly accepted scummy member of the nacho-push

You're going to need better than counter-WIFOM and an argument that you

self-admit is bad

to convince ANYONE to pretend that I am scum

Here is him admitting his case is bad:

Spoiler:

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #2839 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:39 am

I was right about RED RYU

Bcade you need to turn your Nacho obsession into something else. Stop expressing your crush on him here..
the next obvious scum is DESP

VOTE: Desp

ISO · Post Post #2840 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:41 am

I really doubt red Ryu was scum with Nacho. Just read RR's posts. I don't think there's any way he'd play the Nacho wagon the way he did.

Bacde's 2831 is like the second thing from him that's pinged me at all this whole game. No thanks.

Bacde · Post Post #2841 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:42 am

In post 2839, ArcAngel9 wrote:I was right about RED RYU

Bcade you need to turn your Nacho obsession into something else. Stop expressing your crush on him here..
the next obvious scum is DESP

VOTE: Desp

if no one follows me onto nacho can we at least lynch AA9?

ISO · Post Post #2842 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:44 am

In post 144, fuzzybutternut wrote:Tbh: I have a hard time reading Ceph.
It's not that he's not likely as scum. It's that I don't see him as scum.

Ryu, hmm. Now THERE is a likely scum if I ever saw one.

Don't want to vote him just yet though. Ryu, what do you have to say to this?

In post 153, fuzzybutternut wrote:.....................damn it, Ryu.

That's just too cute.

In post 185, fuzzybutternut wrote:What?
I don't want to lynch Ryu.

Haven't looked into every possibility yet but for now,

VOTE: Haylen

Bacde · Post Post #2843 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:46 am

In post 2842, Cephrir wrote:
In post 144, fuzzybutternut wrote:Tbh: I have a hard time reading Ceph.
It's not that he's not likely as scum. It's that I don't see him as scum.

Ryu, hmm. Now THERE is a likely scum if I ever saw one.

Don't want to vote him just yet though. Ryu, what do you have to say to this?

In post 153, fuzzybutternut wrote:.....................damn it, Ryu.

That's just too cute.

In post 185, fuzzybutternut wrote:What?
I don't want to lynch Ryu.
Haven't looked into every possibility yet but for now,

VOTE: Haylen

I like this

I nominate you to be the leader of the "blue scum finding town faction"

Bacde · Post Post #2844 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:47 am

"blue-scum-finding town faction"

makes it a little more clear what I was trying to say

Bacde · Post Post #2845 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:50 am

In post 2828, ffullisade wrote:hi guys.

nacho, I hear from mollie that you are looking pretty scummy. tell me it ain't so.

what else do I need to know?

- fery

hey ffery

now, more than ever, I need you to not sheep the "project themselves as power players" crowd

because this game is a bigger mess than a pot of south carolina shrimp gumbo spilled over a gopher hole (although actually w/ 1 bluescum down we are doing alright)

mollie is towntowntown so I figure you are town for being in the same slot, HELP MEE

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #2846 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:51 am

In post 2830, Bulbazak wrote:Town
Nachomamma8

Eddie Fenix

Haylen
CrashTextDummy

Kublai Khan

Null/Town
Amethyst Kitty
Thor665

Null
PeregrineV
ThAdmiral
ArcAngel9
Thezmon221

Null/Scum
Cephrir
Desperado
penguin_alien

Ffullisade

Scum

Om the Destroyer

Slandaar
Nero Cain
Bacde
Seanald

Explain the bolded

Bulbazak · Post Post #2847 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:54 am

In post 2838, Bacde wrote:
In post 2834, Bulbazak wrote:I've seen him play worse and still be town. Plus, his play mid to late d1 was not only good, but gave me a solid town read. Again, you're going to need better than Burden of Proficiency and WIFOM to convince me that Nacho's scum.

In post 2830, Bulbazak wrote: Besides this being a gigantic load of WIFOM, this theory is also horribad. Nacho is too good to do something as obvious and stupid as that. Odds are that it is either someone off of the Nacho wagon who wanted to keep suspicion on Nacho, or someone on the wagon who wanted to continue pushing the case for a mislynch.
If nacho was bad, he woulda killed me instead of Ryu, the most commonly accepted scummy member of the nacho-push

So you're saying that since Nacho is not noob level of bad, that he must actually be bad

and

scum? Seriously, that's a horrible argument. You're just stretching for the lynch now.

In post 2838, Bacde wrote: You're going to need better than counter-WIFOM and an argument that you
self-admit is bad
to convince ANYONE to pretend that I am scum

What counter-WIFOM? I haven't used WIFOM in my case against you. I've been pretty clear about why I believe you are scum. And also, let's look at that "self-admitted bad case":

In post 2838, Bacde wrote: Here is him admitting his case is bad:
In post 2830, Bulbazak wrote:Because he's probably blue. Although if that's the case, Ryu's sheeping him was an incredibly stupid play. Nevermind, blue Bacde is unlikely because of that. It's probably red Bacde using WIFOM to throw everyone off of his trail.

Notice that it is not my case about why you are scum. It is my reasoning about why you are not

blue scum

. I've never admitted that my scum case against you was bad. Ever. You're going to have to try to misrep me harder if you want to succeed.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #2848 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:55 am

And why shouldn't I come after you Eddie?

Haylen is town, those quotes you posted are stupid and falsely implicating. Fuzzy isn't dumb scum, he wouldn't make connections to his buddy so Obv

Hi Ffery
~Mara, same for the above

Pedit: my post, not Bulbs >.>

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #2849 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2013 10:56 am

anyway, explanations Bulb, please?