Open 500 - Popcorn Mafia: Game Over!

[Bert]

Hi everyone. I've been keeping up, but waiting for eye pain to get better a little so I can pull through and make some posts. That's on me. :/

I'll try after breakfast.

[TheIrishPope]

Breakfast at 9 PM?
Silly timezones

Bert, all I have to tell you is Wisdom is scum and NS is 75% scum

[Wisdom]

lol why am I scum now, TIP?

[Wisdom]

Whoever calls you scum is scum, is that it?

[TheIrishPope]

Not really, no

[Wisdom]

Then..?

[TheIrishPope]

Yes

[TheIrishPope]

Follow your instincts, young one

[TheIrishPope]

And why are you so paranoid about me having a scumread on you?

[Wisdom]

Couldn't care less, really.

[TheIrishPope]

Trying to feign your paranoia, eh?

[notscience]

Scumreads with no case I see. Good work, you sure are helping this town out.

[TheIrishPope]

I already explained why silly NS

[Bert]

Breakfast at 9 PM?
Silly timezones

Bert, all I have to tell you is Wisdom is scum and NS is 75% scum

It's 10:49 AM. I'm done with breakfast now. Why is NS 25% not scum?

Without looking back, I'll start off with one short post with brief feelings, hopefully that can get me going. I've kept up all through yesterday, but haven't been able to post until now. I'm disappointed with myself lol.

No, I am including the fact that scum chose a hydra to be the gunbearer for one reason only: hydra dissonance. Gives scum more chance to survive.
And they couldn't choose Kerberos because, you know, scum.
Point out where my logic is flawed.
You are right! It has nothing to do with what they've done ingame. I'm still right though.

PEdit: Yes Mara, that was my case. Why else would they choose Oil?
Second PEdit: Every hydra argues.

I write this with the greatest civility I can muster. For all I know, you could be scum, and you could have picked a hydra to be the gunbearer so that you could frame Kerberos the other hydra, killing two birds/hydras with one stone.

@notscience:

One of them may be, most likely Jacob. Need to hear more from them.

Why is bork town?

He seems to be actively scumhunting and bringing in new points that were overlooked.

Why do you think he's scum?

I think the key word Wisdom can see in your post is "seems to." Will you do us a favor and tell us what new points he brought in that were overlooked?

Why is TIP constantly trying to be a kiss-up?

I agree. It's getting on my nerves. I got a chance to skim through the Cult game he recently finished with Arcangel. I can sense her frustration with what happened in that game. Initially, I ruled TIP as null/leaning town based on his excessive, overbearing tunneling sensational type posting. I don't trust what I think, and I hate how I can't reach a decision on him. I'm confused, and I don't think what he's doing is pro-town at all. He has me fooled if he's town, but the same can be said if he's scum. Please don't call me out for posting fluff for this because this is my thought process. I mean, why spam so much...it doesn't even help the game in general, then I/we have to weed through more posts and look for scummy tells...it makes looking through TIP's posts for content like looking for a needle in a haystack. Sorry, frustrated here too. Darn it. Okay, moving on.

And with that said I think TIP is not playing pro-town but I don't know if he's scum. UGH. I hate myself. I wish he were noticeably scum because then they would shoot him because he's so cutesy in his posting, but nonsensical, endearing in such a way, but also so damn frustrating. That'd be my dream. Bah, humbug!

I'm null on TIP but genuinely confused.

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Part 2:

@Angel:

- Angel, thank you for joining us and telling us about your experiences with TIP. That is helpful, regardless of whether TIP was cult, mafia, whatever anti-town role in your specified instance.

I read your first post minutes after you posted, although I was unable to put forth any words together and make anything coherent and practical. I'm going to admit to you that when I read your first few posts, I wanted to tell you to please read the game again because some of what you said didn't make sense. I mean, I have no idea in hell if Bork is scum or not, but I had asked Bork the same question about leaving Jacob on/off his list. It's not your fault really though, well yes it is your fault for not joining this damn game sooner. So you deserved lots of "why aren't you reading" comments when you came in, for being so damn "busy" and not joining us sooner

@Wisdom

So you people are convinced I'm scum because I am scumhunting.
Seems legit.
Anyway, talk to Oil

Funny you're focusing on that of all things in the conversation.
Caught scum, methinks.

I really liked 666. Something about it felt genuine.

You aren't taking a stance though which is odd because I have seen town wisdom take stances early on in the game. I am scum reading you for calling people out for Anti-town over scummy actions and for leeching off of other peoples reasons when making your arguments. The only thing that was your own was your little argument with Fege and starting up the conversation with me. Nothing you are doing reminds me of town Wisdom in the slightest

Except there's no such thing as town Wisdom; I'm tired of hearing things like that.

Looking back, I looked at cases made against you, Wisdom. Honestly, if the three heads is scum, then this case/meta makes sense for them to make so that they make can be putting dirt on you early so that you don't bleed obvtown down the stretch towards the end of the game. It's like a political commercial sorta. This is my total BS commenting at this point but honestly I have a headache and I need to stay active so what the hell I'm posting whatever I think because I'm grumpy and cornball emotional. You always sound so damn paranoid that it irked me without me realizing why. I'm trying to get used to it.

I think Wisdom's town. He/she has won over my trust. Maybe I'm just that gullible of a newb. If I'm wrong, well bollocks!!!!!!

@Don Johnson

( I wanted to type Lyndon )

hm.

oil: shoot bork

new list:

kerb
bork
AA9
Wisdom

page 28 looks like a scum slapfight.

I had a feeling that there were scum partaking in an argument on 28 but I couldn't tell who when I saw those pages too. My gut still says Angel is being so damn defensive and it just looked so fake the way she was trying to instigate reactions. Is this her playstyle? I don't know her, and no I'm not using "not knowing her" as an excuse. I think it's just that Angel was SOOOOOO defensive. I mean, why so defensive when entering the game. OK I have not played with you before, but that was like so over-defensive. I mean, I thought Bork was pretty defensive, but you were more so and I was flabbergasted. Angel, it seems like you pulling I mean manafacturing cases out of your mind and some things you said made sense and some things you said didn't. You'll ask me what things made sense and what didn't. When you ask me that, I will go look back, your asking me will motivate me to look back. So ask away whatever you want to ask so I get off my lazy buttocks. But I will tell you I really like the point about Kerb and Bork and how people might rush to look at small contexts sometimes too soon, to his/her detriment. But moving forward, what really bothered me was:

And that makes me scum because?

Your unwillingness to give town reads!! that's anti-town. therefore, makes you most possible scum.

Why wouldn't you just say that's scummy? It just suggested that you didn't want to say directly that Wisdom is scum to you, and in my own wack wild world Wisdom is town to you. I hate myself for thinking this. I really do. I'm leaning scum on you. You brought new points to the table, I give you credit for that, but I still don't like the tone and feeling I get from your posts. Just way too defensive and not genuine feeling to me. Sorry if that makes no sense.

@Don Johnson

With that said,

a) i said: wisdom thinks jacob is scum.

b) wisdom says: you are not reading.

statement was actually correct, but you decided to try and make it sound as if statement a was not correct.

seeing as how you bolded your vote for jacob and have implied all game that your suspicion of jacob was serious, i kind of assume you would continue to bold your "vote".

p-edit:

who would you shoot first?

I'd shoot bork if I had the gun right now.

hm.

oil: shoot bork

Why did you have to wait for Wisdom to say who he wanted to shoot, and then when you have to think a while before telling everyone else to shoot Bork? That bothers me. I'm leaning scum on you still, even if your posts make me laugh sometimes lol. But wait, there's more!!! (DING DING DING)

@Bork:

Also I like the majority of your reads so that's ++ for you too

^^ nice omgus.

Nice misrep

Don, what were you talking about with this "nice omgus" comment? I felt Bork's reply to me when I gauged his handle on me as sort of appeasing (not sure what to make of it), but nothing more than that?

I'm going to take a break and comment more on the others who I haven't talked about, and a break gives me time to mull over who I think should be shot. It's tough to decide and I'm out of energy from making this post - and this post sucks too, so guys please tell me what I can do to play better. Thanks.

[Kerberos]

I'm basically caught up. Questions though for some people..

@Dj:

I don't understand your hatred for Mollie. It's getting quite old. The fact you're tunneling and keep saying shoot the hydra without decent reasons why we are scum is starting to irritate me..

Also I don't like how your reads are barely changing, but also half the other player list are they all leaning town or they null or what? I think you're just bullshiting your lists.

Oh and your comments to AA were uncalled for. She's not English as her first language. You need to get over that and stop being a pissant.

@AA:

Why is your activity so blah? I see you posting elsewhere on the site..

You been prodded once and almost to twice.

@TiP:

What was with you saying 'give me the gun' the first part of the Day, but all of a sudden you don't want the gun. Why the change?

Also you and your tunneling is getting old. Knock it off please.

AtE isn't a scum tell.

@Wisdom/NS:

I like your activity in general.

I also think Bert is town. Wisdom/NS are leaning town to me.

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That's all I remember. Also OT being quiet isn't alarming me as they said they were going to do it anyways.

~Mala

(OHMYGOD IT'S A WALL ON PREVIEW. Thanks Bert!)

[don_johnson]

bert: the omgus comment was directed at bork in relation to their suspicion on me. bork has been on my list all day. not sure what your issue is with my shot request. maybe you can rephrase that. p.s. i like you too.

kerb: not sure what the issue is with mollie? i gave my reasons for wanting to shoot you. "tunneling" is a bit of a misrep imo.

Also I don't like how your reads are barely changing, but also half the other player list are they all leaning town or they null or what? I think you're just bullshiting your lists.

i'm a numbers guy. i scumhunt early by thinning the herd, dividing players into smaller groupings, etc. i am not a conventional player i guess. the list is the group i find most likely to hit scum. fact is, scummy players are town and townie players can be scum. at some point you have to cut through all the white noise and start killing. i play fast. i prefer games that are under 40 pages, day 1 and 2 speed lynches, random vig shots, pina colada's and long walks on the beach. picture it in real life, we are all standing around talking and someone hands don_johnson a gun. he's probably drunk and just starts waving it around, settles on the a small group of people and then POW! he fires into the group and caps somebody in the ass. then we check his wallet.

don't hate the player, hate the game.

Oh and your comments to AA were uncalled for. She's not English as her first language. You need to get over that and stop being a pissant.

internet=america. not my problem.

[Oil Tycoons]

Prod dodging, hopefully Nacho comes back soon so I can talk to him.

[Wisdom]

@Wisdom/NS:

I like your activity in general.

And you felt the need to post this because?
It's not like activity is a tell either way.

[Human Destroyer]

Mod Note

JacobSavage has been prodded.

[Human Destroyer]

Unofficial Votecount 1.6

Votecount

(3)

JacobSavage

- Wisdom, TheIrishPope, notscience
(2)

Oil Tycoons

- Bert, Fegelein
(1)

borkjerfkin

-

(ArcAngel9,)

JacobSavage
(1)

Wisdom

- ArcAngel9

(4)

Not voting

- Kerberos, borkjerfkin, don_johnson, Oil Tycoons

Lynches cannot be attained through voting.
The deadline is Saturday, June 15th, 2013 at 3:50 PM EST. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-06-15 15:50:00)

[JacobSavage]

Prod Recieved, been really busy with end of year exams and what not.

I'm also about 5 pages behind...

[Oil Tycoons]

I'm also about 5 pages behind...

5 pages behind....

So, you HAVE been active lurking. Excellent. Thanks for confirming scum.

[ArcAngel9]

v/LA until monday folks!!!

[notscience]

I'm also about 5 pages behind...

5 pages behind....

So, you HAVE been active lurking. Excellent. Thanks for confirming scum.

Wisdom, we have 3 of the 4. Now, who's the last?

[notscience]

Post 558 and 572 both look like they have new prospects brought up and gave me a good town vibe @bert.