You know, I'm trying to be patient with you because I happen to really like playing with you, but this post if these are your actual thoughts, is stupid. And I don't think you're a stupid person, so you are intentionally distorting things or misreading or whatever, but it's pretty transparent. Its sucks you drew a scum role pm. I like you when you're town.
In post 544, Sugar Cain wrote: In post 499, Aeris wrote:
So you're saying you routinely sit on your hands asking for cases instead of poke at suspicious behavior to get a read on them?
Who do you think is scum right now? Why aren't you pushing anyone?
Way to ask a loaded question. Obviously you don't have much experience with me. I'm pretty vocal but when I'm being lazy or I flat out don't see it and want things explained to me then well I ask for a case 'cause you know I don't just randomly bandwagon like a ton of players on this site do.
We were voting DP. Why did you think we were voting him?
Last time I saw you be this lazy and unengaged in a game, you were scum. Do you realize you've spent more effort trying to discredit your attackers than actual scum hunting in the game? Would you say either your hydra head or you are actually engaged in this game?
Don't try to come back with a stupid retort as if I didn't realize you were voting do because your pushing him as scum. Why aren't you pushing him. You've given a flaccid vote with nothing to back it up. There's been no reasoning from you, no pushing from you to determine his alignment, no 'case' which you deem so important you couldn't even attack tip without it even as your hydra partner supposedly was wanting to.
And because I don't think you are a moron, I think you are intentionally refusing to get the point I was making. If you look at my post you quoted, i said "poke at to get a read on" i didnt say bandwagon. My point was not why you weren't voting tip. My point was why weren't you questioning him. You weren't really questioning anyone that didn't have the initials NEC.
If that was an honest reply, please please start reading what I actually say. I'm trying so hard not to be rude to you, but you are making it really hard.
Nero wrote:
This is a potential amished tell. Aeris should have picked up on that. See? I can do that too!!!!
This is stupid. You are not stupid. Stop acting like you are.
Nero wrote:
In post 512, Aeris wrote:
"hydra dissonance" so they can still be seen calling tip suspicious but
not vote him except early in game.
Nero needing a "case" to actually poke at tip and his scummy behavior even though his other head had a scum read on him.
This is some mad bullshit.
That's a lie 'cause we voted him once he was confirmed scum.
I didn't "need" a case, I asked what the case on him was to see if I agreed with it or not.
Oh you hammered him once he was confirmed scum. Well that changes everything.
When I said I was surprised you weren't poking at tne or tip or the wealth of scummy behaviors here, you were like "dunno what the case on him is". My problem is that instead of interacting with people you were just all 'got a case'? Whistling Dixie. You should go back and reread your behavior around the lynch and the claim. Suggesting that we were dumbos for wanting to lynch him if he was town, etc looks scummy.
Nero wrote:
In post 519, DoctorPepper wrote:Hmm, when Maestro replaced out, what does everyone think of TIP's reaction? Is it indicative of him being Maestro/Molla's partner and him being worried that he was being replaced?
uh ooo. DP is asking a question but not giving his own thoughts.
This is beyond stupid. Have you been reading the thread? No really have you. Like this isn't a rhetorical question or anything, I just want to know what I'm dealing with here.
Nero wrote:
In post 513, Aeris wrote: In post 482, Sugar Cain wrote:Shana, Aeris, what are your guys's thoughts on Molla, EMP and DP
Molla, why exactly did you have a town read on EMP?
VOTE: DP
Also, this crap, which is pretty much the only unprompted post this day phase.
No thoughts of their own
, except a vote,
but asking for thoughts
, which at least on my end had already been given. Looks like looking to see which way they can go.
dat selective scumhunting.
This is even stupider. No, seriously, my patience is pretty much gone. And I'm actually tot he point where I don't care if by some miracle youre town, I just want to sing while you swing. You're not actually reading he game. You're not anwering questions that you're supposed town reads are asking. You're only spending time distorting and discrediting your attackers. You're making insane "observations" and I have way too much respect for you as a player to think this is you as town.
You are trig to compare two things that, while somewhat similar, are not the same. Its like going aha you lied you do like apples, I just saw you eat that pineapple and say its delicious. You're not a moron, stop acting like it. DP asked a specific question. "what do you guys think about xyz". Your other head said "what are several peoples reads on these several people?". Lololololol I'm not going to give my thoughts until you do. Lalalalalala. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I don't have to. Never mind that my thoughts are in the thread as I've gone along. And then refused to answer the question I asked. If she would have said, "what do you guys think about emp and dp voting tip in rvs" I would have answered. Furthermore if you read the thread you'll see that dp gave a reads list yesterday, so he has actually given his thoughts.
Nero wrote:
In post 527, Aeris wrote:It should have been the first thing you did period if you and Nero have really been discussing it
lemme ask you a question here. Yesterday NEC called us scum and then dragged their feet on explaining why. What's with the cong dis here?
There is no cognitive dissonance. You're trying to compare two different scenarios. Holding back your reasoning to see if anyone else sees what you see, especially on day one is a completely valid approach. There was no dragging their feet on explaining why. They were holding their cards close. They had a scum read on you and anted to see if others would see what they saw. When you're hoping to catch a partner by reactions or gain town reads from that, it's perfectly fine. You mischaracterizing it as dragging their feet is bad. You know exactly what they were doing. I could see the town intent in what they were doing.
I do not see the town intent in anything you're doing. And seriously, if you are town, please please for the love of all the is good and holy START ACTING LIKE IT. NEC was not trying to form a town block, supposedly you guys are. There is no partner left, so no partner reactions to look for. It's day two, not day one. MM claimed that you are certain DP is the last scum. Since you are so certain he is the LAST scum, and you are supposedly trying to make a perfect game and form a town block, logic would dictate that you would give a reason when you voted out of the gate for your for sure certain scum read. I mean we are now what 7 days in and you guys have just now begun to leave some bread crumbs, which is only because I've been screaming about it.
Like if you for serious think that's a cognitive disconnect then I don't know what to tell you.
NEro wrote:
more selective scumhunting. Slimer is asking a question but not giving his reads.
This is stupid and an oversimplification. Don't be stupid.
Nero wrote:
In post 538, Aeris wrote:Yes, wanting my scum read to actually answer my questions, interact with me on what I've posted so far, and give me their thoughts so that I can get a better read on them is so idiotic of me
The amount of selective scumhunting and cong dis gives that impression.
I'm sorry that either your poor reading comprehension skills or your role pm prevent you from looking at things correctly.
Nero wrote:
In post 542, Aeris wrote:Voting your partner in RVS is a rookie mistake. It's pretty stupid to do because people look at RVS for those very things.
yet new scum still do it. You're using the exact same thing to incriminate BB but we/I are not allowed to think DP did the same thing to TIP? WTF DUDE?!?
Were you the one that told Maestro to replace out?
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okay now I'm just going to take pity on you because reading comprehension just must not be your thing. I never said you're not allowed to think anyone did it. I mean it says right there, it's a rookie mistake. The only person I said that I'd like to think it wouldn't apply to is empking. I'll help you out a bit, it's right there in the bit you cut out. Also, I know that it's sometimes a tad bit difficult to understand someone's meaning when they go to the effort of writing their thoughts down in black and white. But, I'll clue you in to something. Saying "I'd like to think that empking wouldn't vote his partner in rvs" doesn't translate, in any language, to you are not allowed to think dp did that. Hell it doesn't even translate to you are not allowed to think empking would do that. The simple translation is "I think that empking has a better scum game than to vote his partner in rvs.". I know that one was hard..sometimes you have to put it into google.
The other one might have been more difficult. In that part, that you cut off, I said "don't know about do". This one requires more patience from google translate, but it still doesn't translate to you are not allowed to think that about dp. It simply translates to "I don't know about do". Which means I don't know if dp would be the type to vote his partner in rvs. Shew that one was tough.
I also didn't "incriminate" bb for it. Your other head brought up the rvs votes. Logic dictates if you're going to look at who voted tip in rvs and say its possible distancing, that you also look at the confirmed scums rvs vote and see if it makes sense as early distancing. Which is what I did when your slot decided to finally answer a couple questions that your supposed town read, and potential member of said town block, asked. Questions I shouldnt have have had to scream to get a tiny breadcrumb for. This and more should have happened days ago, so there could be discussion, and if you were town I could get a better read on you. But I do find it funny that when you actually finally start discussing something you distort what was actually said.
Acknowledging that the new player tip might have voted his partner in rvs and pointing out something else which bugs me, but then saying "I don't find bb overly fake though" is not incriminating. I've already said I have a town read on bb and when asked I said its because he doesn't seem overly fake to me. It's part of having a discussion? I know it's a difficult concept to grasp, but it's kinda what you do in mafia to work out your reads.
Why would you in any universe think I told maestro to replace out? I like maestro. Bet I know who did though.