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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:39 am

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What was the point of unvoting MsM?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:26 am

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In post 760, milkshake wrote:I would even be willing to backstab Belisarius.
And how would that be backstabbing? I believe it's called "playing mafia."

Unless, of course, your choice of phrase here is an attempt to set up a fake associative tell for after you flip scum. Yes, I could believe this.
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:28 am

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In post 710, Ms Marangal wrote:
Because Nyvene is a Doctor, and I'm not playing Dumb


and I did press you, but then you ended up disappearing.

You think everything I do is Scummy Orci.
@MsM - please point out what post were addressing here for the above bolded?
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:30 am

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In post 775, Nero Cain wrote:What was the point of unvoting MsM?
i'll explain after i hear from Milkshake...
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:46 am

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In post 776, Belisarius wrote:
In post 760, milkshake wrote:I would even be willing to backstab Belisarius.
And how would that be backstabbing? I believe it's called "playing mafia."

Unless, of course, your choice of phrase here is an attempt to set up a fake associative tell for after you flip scum. Yes, I could believe this.
Hah, no I'm not trying to do that. Kind of funny to think about doing that though, if I was scum. Although I'm not sure how lynching you would associate us. 0.o But anyway, I was just referring to how I had you as a lower-strength town read not 2 or 3 pages ago.

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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:49 am

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I have to sleep now (Beijing time), I'll try to check back in during the night or tomorrow morning. But I won't have a lot of time. Good luck everyone.

(...except, you know, the people I want to have bad luck.)
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:55 am

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Milshake is Chinese?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:24 am

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Unvote; Vote: milkshake


This should put him back at L-1. Neither Marangal nor milkshake really have great claims, but claims like milkshakes should be lynched rather than go around and pull more claims.

ThAd would not be a terrible lynch as his softclaim has already been pulled, BUT a) I think that milkshake's lynch will be more informative and b) ThAd may have a method for his behavior if he is town.

I can understand frustration at my level of activity. Balto ends Wednesday, so it should change by D2 or so.

I will mention the deadline to MattP and Amrun.
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:29 am

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tell Amrun to answer my question.
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:30 am

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Either I missed an unvote or that was hammer.

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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:34 am

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In post 673, Ghostlin wrote:I'll high light the problems with this post, SOO. The thing I'm most concerned with. Tell me if you have the same concerns I do.
yes, actually..that's what i was mainly talking about...i figured scum would know about that, whereas he doesn't.
however, now i'm not so sure...as i really, really, really do not like Milk's claim...

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My ability makes sense for my character…and I have a quick blurb about it in my PM

MsM’s ability makes sense for her character – In the series, Nynaeve, is a healer first and foremost.
I will say that I did not like at all the way MsM claimed…first she claims early and also gets the name wrong…she later corrects it but then types it wrong again…also her “Because Nynaeve is a Doctor post” seemed way out of place… I don’t see any particular post she was replying to with that…it was as if someone with flavor knowledge told her to say that and she just threw it in somewhere…Coupled with her other stuff that I had already mentioned does make for a good scum pick, however, I’d rather not lynch her on Day1 on the off chance that she is in fact a doctor…

Milkshakes ability does NOT make sense for his character..Siuan Sanche was The Amrylin Seat (Head of the White Tower) and a powerful channeler who was “stilled” (her channeling abilities were taken from her) and deposed. It was thought that there was no way to heal a woman after being “stilled”, however, Nynaeve found a way and did it. So Suian got her abilty back (however it was much, much weaker than she originally had) and she became an advisor of sorts. She would not be able to modify anyone’s abilities..as she doesn’t have much channeling power at all…

I’d be willing to lynch Milkshake now

PEDIT: was it?
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:41 am

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OKAY SO UH

IECE WAS LIKE

"DID YOU KNOW DEADLINE FOR A GAME YOU ARE IN IS IN SIX HOURS" >.>
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:43 am

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In post 784, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Either I missed an unvote or that was hammer.

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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:46 am

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WHY ARE YOU AVOIDING MY QUESTION, AMRUN?!?
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:56 am

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In post 676, Nero Cain wrote:I just want Amrum to answer my question.
I have missed your question and as soon as I post this I will go back and find it. If you read this first, re-state it quick to make it easier since that might have been the hammer!
In post 677, Selkies wrote:
In post 672, Amrun wrote:Let's just put it this way... he may be scum, but his posting style is not an indication of this (ie noncommittal and distant).
What would be indicative of his scum game?
In real life? How he looks into my eyes lol. But he totally fleeced me as scum last night. :(

He is more indecisive as scum than as town, but he is indecisive as either. I am still null on him, and I flipflop on the lean. I find it easier to read iece with flips under the belt to evaluate his past actions with.
In post 693, Selkies wrote:One curious thing...milk has hardly interacted with or mentioined Amrun at all.
Funny. Why do you say this? Milkshake and I have interacted quite a lot. I want this answered even if it must be answered tomorrow.
In post 711, Selkies wrote:Will bring this up with orcinus as soon as he's online. Our vote stays where it is in the meantime because I'm skeptical as fuck about this role claim.

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In post 700, milkshake wrote:Me too, especially now that you mentioned that. It seems like the kind of thing that might be a scum safeclaim.

confirm vote: Ms Marangal
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In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5002146#p5002146]post 725[/url], orcinus_theoriginal wrote:L-3 IS NOT WHERE DOCTORS CLAIM

NO IT IS NOT

I will shout at everyone until you see how scum Marangal is

And if we lynch milk today everyone is going to promise me Marangal is lynched to death.
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In post 737, Ms Marangal wrote:So your a channeler and nothing but?

I'm finding it hard to believe

and L-3 is where a doc would claim when the game is near deadline and she isn't sure if she would be able to be here for it, and if she was confident enough to guess when scum will try and target her so that she could use her other ability to try and dodge the kill

also, why are Thad and I the only ones who are getting shit for pre-mature claiming when Demon has done the exact same thing?



and Orci, I knew that you were going to bring up that game, like Jesus. yes, I have fake-claimed Vig as scum but how in the world does that mean my claim here is fake? I'm not scum Orci, My claim is legit and I'll do a full one if I have to but god, if you can't see the difference in tone here then IDK what to say.

as for the sucking up, I feel that it's a scum-tell when it's the only thing that the person does. She can like Fery's Iso, I like Fery's Iso it's helpful but if the sole Purpose is to butter someone up and get them onto your good side then they are probably likely scum. It's for that exact same reason WK'ing is a scum-tell, it serves as a way to get the person under good light. Make them look really good.
The way the bolded question was asked puts me off.
In post 788, Nero Cain wrote:WHY ARE YOU AVOIDING MY QUESTION, AMRUN?!?
Once again, I have no clue what it is but I'll try to find it before the flip.

re: milkshake, I didn't like her vote on Maringal and how it was made but if this is the hammer I still suspect it will be a town flip, though I'm less sure than I once was (perhaps just wishful thinking).
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:59 am

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In post 617, Nero Cain wrote:and you know that there's another color in play here how?
Is this the question? You buried it in a wall and I missed it.

If so, I don't understand what your panties are in a wad about. Scum flips are red, and town flips are green. This has been part of the site vernacular since I joined and always will be. wut?


Also I think I forgot to mention I still favor a ThAd lynch and I'll check back a little later (probably) to see if that was indeed the hammer and then we'll proceed from there.
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:05 am

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In post 790, Amrun wrote:If so, I don't understand what your panties are in a wad about. Scum flips are red, and town flips are green. This has been part of the site vernacular since I joined and always will be. wut?
I understand that Amrun. What I don't understand is why you substituted the word red in place of mafia or the more common catch all; scum.
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:14 am

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In post 789, Amrun wrote:Funny. Why do you say this? Milkshake and I have interacted quite a lot. I want this answered even if it must be answered tomorrow.
You are right. I think I had you confused with ThAd. But, I'm not sure. I'm short on sleep two days running.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:36 am

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In post 779, milkshake wrote:Although I'm not sure how lynching you would associate us.
It wouldn't -- but if
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:00 am

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Someone cool tell me who to vote
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:02 am

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milk but he/she/it is already lynched
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:05 am

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What Nero said.
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:06 am

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In post 793, Belisarius wrote:
In post 779, milkshake wrote:Although I'm not sure how lynching you would associate us.
It wouldn't -- but if
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You've been pretty devil-may-care about appearances up until now.
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:16 am

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In post 797, Selkies wrote:
In post 793, Belisarius wrote:
In post 779, milkshake wrote:Although I'm not sure how lynching you would associate us.
It wouldn't -- but if
you
flipped scum, anyone who notices that word "backstab" would paint
me
as scum by association with you.
You've been pretty devil-may-care about appearances up until now.
^This. In fact, the word 'back stab' does imply connections to you to, but you went and poked it, in an attempt to distance yourself from shake.
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:41 am

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Iecerint did hammer, btw, from my count. The unvotes came from the MM side of the house. Which, now in Twilight retrospect, MM seems a much better play later in the day than that slot did before. There's a lot of things that clanged, not only L-3; but proposing lynches that wouldn't fly near deadline, particularly after the skepticism that #737 shows.

It reads as scum sweating and doing anything not to be lynched rather than finding the most effective lynch for Town. I still like Beliscum for his entire play today, and if Milk flips scum, I might entertain the idea of a scum slip for the first time in my life.
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