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Post Post #3175 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:29 am

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^actual scum

Bacde and I have a very complicated relationship.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten

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Post Post #3176 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:30 am

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In post 3173, Seanald wrote:^ Bi polar
means??
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Post Post #3177 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:38 am

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Fifty-ninth Votecount
:
(Seventh Votecount Day Two,
AKA, the "Mastin compensates for lack of flavor with bad in-jokes" votecount.
)


thezmon221 - 7 (Bacde, Desperado, Kublai Khan, Nero Cain, EddieFenix, ffullisade, Nachomamma8)

Cephrir - 4 (CrashTextDummie, Amethyst Kitty, Slandaar, Seanald)

Haylen - 3 (Cephrir, Om the Destroyer, penguin_alien)
Amethyst Kitty - 1 (Thor665)
Desperado - 1 (ArcAngel9)

Not Voting - 5 (thezmon221, PeregrineV, ThAdmiral, Haylen, Bulbazak)

With
21
alive, it's
11
to lynch.

Day Two's deadline is Thursday, June 20th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-06-20 12:30:00).

If deadline hit now, thezmon221 would be lynched.

Bulbazak is V/LA over weekends indefinitely.


Spoiler: Changes from last votecount
thezmon221 - 7 (Bacde, Desperado, Kublai Khan, Nero Cain, EddieFenix,
ffullisade
,
Nachomamma8
)
Haylen - 3 (Cephrir, Om the Destroyer, penguin_alien)
Cephrir - 4 (CrashTextDummie, Amethyst Kitty, Slandaar,
Seanald
)
Amethyst Kitty - 1 (
Nachomamma8
, Thor665)
Desperado - 1 (ArcAngel9)
Thor665 - 0 (
ffullisade
)

Not Voting - 5 (thezmon221, PeregrineV,
Seanald
, ThAdmiral, Haylen, Bulbazak)
Last votecount was page 127, post 3157.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History D2
thezmon221:
CrashTextDummie: Slandaar->Cephrir
Cephrir: Haylen
Nachomamma8: Amethyst Kitty->thezmon221
PeregrineV:
Nero Cain: Haylen->thezmon221
Bacde: Nachomamma8->thezmon221
EddieFenix: thezmon221
Bulbazak: Bacde->Unvote
Thor665: Haylen->Amethyst Kitty
Desperado: thezmon221
penguin_alien: Haylen
Slandaar: Thor665
Seanald: Cephrir
ThAdmiral:
Haylen:
Kublai Khan: thezmon221
Amethyst Kitty: EddieFenix->Unvote->Cephrir
ffullisade: Thor665->thezmon221
Om the Destroyer: Haylen
ArcAngel9: Desperado


Spoiler: Votecount History D2
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 01:48p,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 2820.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 01:56p,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
EddieFenix
in post 2823.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 03:25p,
Bulbazak
votes
Bacde
in post 2830.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 03:39p,
ArcAngel9
votes
Desperado
in post 2839.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 03:44p,
Cephrir
votes
Haylen
in post 2842.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 04:00p,
Slandaar
votes
Thor665
in post 2852.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 05:58p,
Om the Destroyer
votes
Haylen
in post 2902.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 05:58p,
CrashTextDummie
votes
Slandaar
in post 2903.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 06:24p,
Nero Cain
votes
Haylen
in post 2914.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 07:22p,
CrashTextDummie
unvotes
Slandaar
and votes
Cephrir
in post 2922.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 10:11p,
Thor665
votes
Haylen
in post 2947.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 11:47p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Bacde
in post 2967.
On Sat, Jun 6/01/13 @ 00:16a,
Amethyst Kitty
unvotes
EddieFenix
in post 2972.
On Sat, Jun 6/01/13 @ 11:54p,
ffullisade
votes
Thor665
in post 3022.
On Sun, Jun 6/02/13 @ 12:21p,
penguin_alien
votes
Haylen
in post 3030.
On Sun, Jun 6/02/13 @ 05:23p,
Bacde
votes
thezmon221
in post 3051.
On Sun, Jun 6/02/13 @ 06:50p,
Desperado
votes
thezmon221
in post 3077.
On Sun, Jun 6/02/13 @ 07:16p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3084.
On Sun, Jun 6/02/13 @ 07:30p,
Thor665
unvotes
Haylen
and votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3089.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 04:38a,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Cephrir
in post 3106.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 06:19a,
Slandaar
votes
Cephrir
in post 3108.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 11:45a,
Kublai Khan
votes
thezmon221
in post 3144.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 12:03p,
Nero Cain
votes
thezmon221
in post 3151.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 12:44p,
EddieFenix
votes
thezmon221
in post 3153.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 01:31p,
ffullisade
votes
thezmon221
in post 3158.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 02:51p,
Nachomamma8
votes
thezmon221
in post 3166.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 03:11p,
Seanald
votes
Cephrir
in post 3167.
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Post Post #3178 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:54 am

Post by Bacde »

In post 3150, Bacde wrote:
In post 3125, Bacde wrote:
In post 3103, Bacde wrote:
In post 3063, Bacde wrote:
In post 3059, thezmon221 wrote:What kind of posts are you reading? I never implied you're scum. I think you're delusional and useless town.
YES!


Town, I saved you. Thank me later. LOL! this is great :D :D :D

He just literally lied because he can't keep track of his opinions that are displayed in his posts. Lets look at this gem right here:
In post 3042, thezmon221 wrote:1) You know who doesn't have reads that change after flips (especially two flips)? Scum. Scum doesn't need to change their reads. Your case on Nacho is exactly the same as it was D1: Crap.
This is Thezmon's argument:

1) Bacde does A
2) Scum do A

3 (assumption) Town is much less likely to do A

4) (inference/implication) Bacde is scum

Yet he denies it.

Sheep Bacde. Scumhunting made easy.

--------

Possible Objections: But you inserted the assumption that town is much less likely to do A! Maybe thezmon doesn't actually think that!

Counter-argument: If thezmon actually doesn't have that assumption, then why did he even include the "You know who does A? Scum do A" part of his post? I can't imagine a town making that statement without the intention of implying that I am scum.
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Post Post #3179 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:56 am

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nacho I'm pretending that I think you're town so that you don't nightkill me tonight
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Post Post #3180 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:02 am

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i'm pretending we have a complicated relationship when we both know the truth
i'm in love with you and you don't love me back no more
you gave me a locket and you took it away
and you left me locked out of heaven with mollie
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Post Post #3181 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:02 am

Post by Bacde »

CUZ YOU MAKE ME FEEL LIKE

I BEEN LOCKED OUTTA HEAVEN

FOR TOO LOOONGNG

FOR TOOO LONGNGNG
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Post Post #3182 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:05 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

Nacho and Bacde,

for your both :P

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Post Post #3183 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:05 am

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^ and this..

I'm not a perfect person
There's many things I wish I didn't do
But I continue learning
I never meant to do those things to you
And so I have to say before I go
That I just want you to know

I've found a reason for me
To change who I used to be
A reason to start over new
and the reason is you

I'm sorry that I hurt you
It's something I must live with everyday
And all the pain I put you through
I wish that I could take it all away
And be the one who catches all your tears
Thats why I need you to hear
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Post Post #3184 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:08 am

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lol AA9 I seriously doubt nacho feels any of those feels for me
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Post Post #3185 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:19 am

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^ the point is, do you?
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Post Post #3186 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:20 am

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In post 3184, Bacde wrote:lol AA9 I seriously doubt nacho feels any of those feels for me
i'm imagining him singing this song to me right now
thank you AA9
maybe one day...
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Post Post #3187 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:22 am

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Well I know who I'm going to fake vig tonight.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #3188 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:22 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 3187, Nero Cain wrote:Well I know who I'm going to fake vig tonight.
who?
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Post Post #3189 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:24 am

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you scum? Why would you care about who I fake vig tonight?

<<< Double-post deleted. >>>
Last edited by mastin2 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #3190 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:26 am

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In post 3189, Nero Cain wrote:you scum? Why would you care about who I fake vig tonight?
I am not SCUM babe.
But that doesn't stop me knownig who you want to fake VIG after you said that publically... I want to see the parnoid noices...
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Post Post #3191 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:29 am

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So then why do you care? I could see scum that thinks I'm claiming a fake vig to hide my actual power.
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Post Post #3192 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:30 am

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I got really excited when I saw ThAdmiral's neighbor claim, but Desperado claiming in suit muddies things again. I still think balance between the scum factions dictates an even number of scum among the neighbors, which probably means two and allows for an all-town neighborhood. ThAdmiral's motivation for claiming is confusing to me and bordering on scummy. He says he was intrigued by my argument of symmetrical neighborhoods and claimed to put "things in an interesting light", but he then went on to speculate that there was "at least 1, probably 2" scum in the neighborhoods, which kind of puts into question whether he
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bought into the argument to begin with. I can see some town motivation in trying to make things more clear (though I could see infinitely more town motivation if the turn of events caused him to actually suspect his neighbor), but there's also strong scum motivation if he thought his neighbor might be spooked into claiming himself and decided to preempt that in an attempt to look pro-town. I'm gonna take a look back at Team Mafia to check where scum landed in the cascade of neighbor claims in that game, and go from there.
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It's certainly consistent from Slandaar's end considering what we discussed in our QT. I told him there that I really struggle seeing Thor as scum, but that I would keep an eye on him considering how accurate I've seen Sladaar's instincts be in the past. Their interactions today are frustrating to read. Slandaar is tunneling and Thor seems to be mostly arguing for argument's sake. I've yet to see any heinous crimes on Thor's part, which I'm putting off the dynamic as town vs. town for the time being.

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Very pleased to finally see interest in Thezmon. I think the contradiction Bacde pointed out is even worse than in the quotes he provided; Thezmon flat-out said that Bacde "shot up in scumminess" a little while earlier, which is about as unambiguous as it gets and doesn't correspond with a "dumb, useless town" read at all. I think Cephrir is also scum, though probably from the other faction. Doesn't matter much to me in which order we string them up.

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Post Post #3193 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:33 am

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In post 3191, Nero Cain wrote:So then why do you care? I could see scum that thinks I'm claiming a fake vig to hide my actual power.
i am looking at the possiblity you being scum and playing this little gambit.... ;)
And after this, you really think Scum would just handover themselves to you like this?
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Post Post #3194 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:36 am

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So Angel is worried about where my "fake" vig goes.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #3195 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:42 am

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In post 3194, Nero Cain wrote:So Angel is worried about where my "fake" vig goes.
Not worried. I want to know whats going on in your mind and who you want to target.
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Post Post #3196 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:49 am

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Angel scum trying to figure out who I want to target. lol
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Post Post #3197 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:51 am

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In post 3196, Nero Cain wrote:Angel scum trying to figure out who I want to target. lol
Be my guest nero, it will only proves that you're wrong once again.. You're a bad reader when it comes to me..
and you experienced it multiple times...
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Post Post #3198 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:52 am

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I'll let the mod tell me your alignment. Thank you.
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Post Post #3199 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:00 pm

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Haven't had time to check activity effectively, but I don't think we have anyone in need of a prod. Those closest to being at risk have been poked, though.
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