WWE Believe in the Shield

[Nero Cain]

My problem with Darthe is that he contributed to the day 1 no lynch.

He then "forgot" that he left Goat off his scum list.

He then says we should all not add ourselves to our lists despite adding himself.

On said list I was a higher town read then himself. When questioned about it he goes "I wrote that to compare how my predecessor played in my eyes with the rest of you."

Why the fuck would town do that?

[Nero Cain]

Deadline is tomorrow (though we should prob gets an extension) but we are NOT no lynching again.

MonkeyMan576 (5)- Mac, Mutleyddmc, Ravenpaw, penguin_alien, ArcAngel9
ArcAngel9 (3)- PeregrineV, MonkeyMan576, Desperado
Desperado (2)-ferretlover, mutlydmc

vote:Monkey

All the following are not voting a leading wagon and should join one ASAP

The Goat
Amethyst Actor
xMALCOLMx
Sryranna
Mastin2
Darthe
rubicon

[Mutleyddmc]

Oh deadline tomorrow. Yes sorry my bad on the desp vote
VOTE: monkey man

[Nexus]

Votecount 2.8:

MonkeyMan576 (6)-

Mac, Ravenpaw, penguin_alien, ArcAngel9, Nero Cain, Mutleyddmc

ArcAngel9 (3)-

PeregrineV, MonkeyMan576, Desperado

Desperado (2)-

Nero Cain, ferretlover

Pidgey (1)-

The Goat

ferretlover (1)-

Amethyst Actor

Darthe (1)-

xMALCOLMx

PeregrineV (1)-

Pidgey

xMALCOLMx (1)-

Syryana

Mac (1)-

mastin2

Not voting (2)-

Darthe, Rubicon

With 18 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Day 2 will end at 8PM BST on Saturday 8th June 2013.

Three day extension

[Desperado]

My problem with Darthe is that he contributed to the day 1 no lynch.

It's actually worse than contributing...he said he would sheep you, and you told him Goat would be the better lynch but it probably won't go through, and then voted Mutley. Darthe voted Goat anyway.

He then "forgot" that he left Goat off his scum list.

He then says we should all not add ourselves to our lists despite adding himself.

On said list I was a higher town read then himself. When questioned about it he goes "I wrote that to compare how my predecessor played in my eyes with the rest of you."

Why the fuck would town do that?

Yeah all of these are pretty bad. I take back what I said about Darthe being obvtown...I might have been biased by his ferret case (which is still good imo).

Now that you know we have an extra three days do you still want to stay on Monkey? I don't think he's scum, while I'm pretty confident in Arc scum. Speaking of which, you still haven't commented on my case on her.

[Nero Cain]

but Ferret is so easy. Players like her and Arc and Monkey and many others on this site LOOK scummy regardless of their role pm.

unvote

[mastin2]

Jebus (1)- The Goat

I believe that's supposed to be pidgey.

But anyway, guys. We have the time. Now tell me who we're going to lynch; it aint Monkeyman.

Let's try this for a start.

Vote: TheGoat

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[Nero Cain]

Mastapan is ignoring Darthe....

[Desperado]

but Ferret is so easy. Players like her and Arc and Monkey and many others on this site LOOK scummy regardless of their role pm.

unvote

I understand what you are getting at, but I'm not advocating that we policy lynch arc. She is doing legitimately scummy things like having a scumread on a player who isn't in this game, or saying that Monkey is scum for doing X when it was actually ferret that did X, or leaving Monkey off of her lynch list even though she was, and is still currently, voting him. She isn't invested in her reads because she can't be because she's scum.

[mastin2]

Mastapan is ignoring Darthe....

I'm not. It's just that your case relies on context--context I have yet to read to check out the legitimacy thereof.

[MonkeyMan576]

Why is mutley lying about the deadline? We have 4 days.

[MonkeyMan576]

Ah, Nero is also lying.

[MonkeyMan576]

Also, anyone willing to join a wagon with Arcangel, Mutley, and Ravenpaw on it needs to rethink their strategy. Lynching someone just to lynch someone is horrible, especially with a scum driven wagon.

[Rubicon]

Don't think anybody's lying, Monkey - the mod just extended the deadline this morning.

I've skimmed like a third of this thread. Going to spend the next hour going through it in more detail.

[Darthe]

That is interesting. I just noticed that Monkey wasn't on Nero's list either..

Something feels very amiss about that to me, though I recognize that that is a vague and unhelpful thing. Still, gut is gut.
I think I will trust myself here and vote

Arc

[Rubicon]

could someone give me a few sentences summarizing the important events in this game? "This is multiball", "someone's been daykilling", "Nero claimed vig", that kind of thing.

[Mac]

darthe's amished tell was really horrendous & his excuse for including zach was horrid.

[mastin2]

If it was rolefishing, it was very poorly and blatantly done, to the point that I do not find it a viable scumtell. I find those who would use that as an excuse to vote somewhat suspect.

In fact,

vote Squidward.

Have you played with Monkey before? If you do, you will might agree with me that he generally scum slips early in games... Scum monkey = obv role fishing , fake claims, and poor play.

if you don't know or don't believe, either check his meta or maybe the other older players might fill you in...

I don't scumslip or play poorly. I get lynched for poor reasons(like this one).

Do you want to talk about your meta?

Not liking this. The 'insult' from Angel would only apply if Monkey is scum and the reaction he gave here seems genuine (the bolded).

VOTE: Monkey

Okay, seriously. Is this a bus?
No?

Well then, get off of Monkey; he's town. Like, seriously. This couldn't be any more painfully obvious. Monkey was already looking town, but this is all you need to confirm it.

[mastin2]

@Desperado - I'd be willing to vote Krab or Ferret with you.

Don't think Desperado is a scumbuddy, either, from this.

[mastin2]

Personally, my 4 targets of the day would be Ravenpaw (reasons listed above), Doctor whatever (pathetic contributions, from a hydra that's disgraceful), Amethyst (hasn't been scumhunting, and then calls me opportunistic without expanding on it at all), and Nero Cain (The meta comment from Monkey was really interesting, and Nero's reasoning for jumping on the Skull wagon was poor)
~Krabs

your read on me is wrong, your read on nero won't help us today

can you expand on your read on Doctor whatever? I think we are on to something

So this confirms Mutley's slot is town.

[Nero Cain]

Don't think anybody's lying, Monkey - the mod just extended the deadline this morning.

and this is why Monkey is constantly mislynch bait.

That is interesting. I just noticed that Monkey wasn't on Nero's list either..

Well when deadline is approaching lots of stuff flys out the window. For instance, even if Monkey were to flip town that would be one less scapegoat the scum have to use.

If it was rolefishing, it was very poorly and blatantly done, to the point that I do not find it a viable scumtell. I find those who would use that as an excuse to vote somewhat suspect.

In fact,

vote Squidward.

Have you played with Monkey before? If you do, you will might agree with me that he generally scum slips early in games... Scum monkey = obv role fishing , fake claims, and poor play.

if you don't know or don't believe, either check his meta or maybe the other older players might fill you in...

I don't scumslip or play poorly. I get lynched for poor reasons(like this one).

Do you want to talk about your meta?

Not liking this. The 'insult' from Angel would only apply if Monkey is scum and the reaction he gave here seems genuine (the bolded).

VOTE: Monkey

Okay, seriously. Is this a bus?
No?

Well then, get off of Monkey; he's town. Like, seriously. This couldn't be any more painfully obvious. Monkey was already looking town, but this is all you need to confirm it.

We have 2 scum teams. I think he's unlikely to be Heyman but he could still be Shield.

[mastin2]

@desperado

But I've also just died in a game with Jebus where he got lynched for this precise reason, and was town.

This is not excusing his play, but it is meant to illustrate that no matter how much pressure you put on him (with words AND votes), he just doesn't care. My understanding from that game is that his meta is more of the same.

Sven, the last you said you hadn't had time to focus in on ferret. If that is still the case, just ISO him, come back, and try to justify his actions as town.

If you can do that convincingly, I'll jump back on Jebus with you.

I don't understand why you'd vote Jebus again. Can you explain why?

pidgey, again, looks like a fine scum candidate which I'm considering. Desperado not so much.

Also, PeregrineV (Sven's slot) looks town from this, too, confirming that read of mine.

[mastin2]

@desperado

But I've also just died in a game with Jebus where he got lynched for this precise reason, and was town.

This is not excusing his play, but it is meant to illustrate that no matter how much pressure you put on him (with words AND votes), he just doesn't care. My understanding from that game is that his meta is more of the same.

Sven, the last you said you hadn't had time to focus in on ferret. If that is still the case, just ISO him, come back, and try to justify his actions as town.

If you can do that convincingly, I'll jump back on Jebus with you.

I don't understand why you'd vote Jebus again. Can you explain why?

pidgey, again, looks like a fine scum candidate which I'm considering. Desperado not so much.

Also, PeregrineV (Sven's slot) looks town from this, too, confirming that read of mine.

[Nero Cain]

could someone give me a few sentences summarizing the important events in this game? "This is multiball", "someone's been daykilling", "Nero claimed vig", that kind of thing.

Nero is town

THIS. IS. MULTIBALL.

GCBC flipped Heyman scum.
we no lynched on day 1.

[pidgey]

Not sure if being completely ignored

Or trolled