Mini 1449 - Ordinary Town

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

Here's dashie's posts.

"Thats quite a bit unbalanced.

neighborizer is a fairly weak role in most cases. Doc-Neighborizer would probably balance with just a RB-Goon (no third scum) at 13 players. Changing VT for scum knocks that way offcenter. Lets not forget RB-Goon essentially balances against Cop-Doc-5xVT (old newbie setup that ran mid-high 50% to town)

I would actually be kinda fine with lynching GCBC today and still outright claiming we are tracking Daemon (then going to Dyslx/SB)."

And

"204
Rainbow Dash
06-06-2013
08:14 PM ET (US)
Doc-Neighborizer-7xVT vs RB-Goon I would be willing to call balanced even though some would argue small town lean. Add a Traitor for VT and its a joke as scum should crush it."

And

"205
Rainbow Dash
06-06-2013
08:17 PM ET (US)
That should be 9x VT, not 7x.

11x VT vs 2x Goon is slight town lean

I would value Doc+Neighborizer addition as weaker than RB addition. So it balances there."

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

Actually I haven't voted you. I only stated a small suspicion.

oh, tbh I haven't really been paying attention to much this game

besides my certainty that rainbowjake is maf

-badcop

also I was the first one to pressure ac1983fan but thats not gonna mean shit to you guys until I flip town and you guys are like "oh shit we are dumbasses"

Just cause you pressured him doesn't mean shit btw, bussing/distancing happens often.

Not to mention that GC's play is nothing like my game and I saw his town play from the best perspective. GC's play this game as well as BC, has been lack luster IMO.


Dashie still wants to stick to the plan but thankfully she's busy so if we can speed lynch you, that would be awesome.

[GoodCopBadCop]

Here's dashie's posts.

"Thats quite a bit unbalanced.

neighborizer is a fairly weak role in most cases. Doc-Neighborizer would probably balance with just a RB-Goon (no third scum) at 13 players. Changing VT for scum knocks that way offcenter. Lets not forget RB-Goon essentially balances against Cop-Doc-5xVT (old newbie setup that ran mid-high 50% to town)

I would actually be kinda fine with lynching GCBC today and still outright claiming we are tracking Daemon (then going to Dyslx/SB)."

And

"204
Rainbow Dash
06-06-2013
08:14 PM ET (US)
Doc-Neighborizer-7xVT vs RB-Goon I would be willing to call balanced even though some would argue small town lean. Add a Traitor for VT and its a joke as scum should crush it."

And

"205
Rainbow Dash
06-06-2013
08:17 PM ET (US)
That should be 9x VT, not 7x.

11x VT vs 2x Goon is slight town lean

I would value Doc+Neighborizer addition as weaker than RB addition. So it balances there."

NOPE

NOPE
NOPE
NOONO NONOO

YOU FORGOT ABOUT THE PLAN RAINBOWJAKE

WE GET LYNCHED, YOU GET LYNCHED

THATS THE DEAL

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO I AM, WHY AREY OU ACTING LIKE OUR META COMES INTO PLAY HERE AT ALL??

LOLOL YOU ARE SCUM

MUAHAHAHA

YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE THUNDER YOU'VE WREAKED

YOU ARE GETTING LYNCHED TOMORROW BY THE FURY OF THE TOWN I HAVE DECLARED IT

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

I already said I am ready to be lynched. so suck it trebeck

[GoodCopBadCop]

Actually I haven't voted you. I only stated a small suspicion.

oh, tbh I haven't really been paying attention to much this game

besides my certainty that rainbowjake is maf

-badcop

also I was the first one to pressure ac1983fan but thats not gonna mean shit to you guys until I flip town and you guys are like "oh shit we are dumbasses"

Just cause you pressured him doesn't mean shit btw, bussing/distancing happens often.

Not to mention that GC's play is nothing like my game and I saw his town play from the best perspective. GC's play this game as well as BC, has been lack luster IMO.


Dashie still wants to stick to the plan but thankfully she's busy so if we can speed lynch you, that would be awesome.

TOO BAD GOODCOP CHANGES HIS META ALL THE TIME IDIOT

IVE PLAYED AGAINST HIM TOO AS SCUM, AND INSTEAD OF PLAYING HOWEVER YOU THINK HE DID HE FAKECLAIMED COP WITH A GUILTY ON ME AND GOT ME LYNCHED LIKE A BADASS

SO DONT PRETEND HE CANT JUST CHANGE WHAT HE DOES

OH WAIT YOU ARE SCUM IT DOESNT MATTER

YOU GUYS ARE GETTING LYNCHED--I HAVE SCUM META ON BOTH OF YOU WHICH YOU ARE BOTH FOLLOWING

I DONT EVEN CARE THAT IM CALLING YOUR META ON GOODCOP SHIT AND MY META ON BOTH OF YOU GOOD

BECAUSE YOU ARE THE SCUM IT DOESNT MATTER

GET LYNCHED TOMORROW

[GoodCopBadCop]

I already said I am ready to be lynched. so suck it trebeck

GOOD HOPE YOU LOOK FORWARD TO IT TOMORROW

ILL SEE YOU IN IN THE HELL QT

TOWN--DONT DEVIATE FROM THE PLAN

RAINBOWJAKE WILLTRYHARD TO NOT BE LYNCHED TOMORROW

JUST HAMMER IT WHEN HES AT L-1 DONT SECONDGUESS YOURSELVES

[GoodCopBadCop]

Just cause you pressured him doesn't mean shit btw, bussing/distancing happens often.

Not to mention that GC's play is nothing like my game and I saw his town play from the best perspective. GC's play this game as well as BC, has been lack luster IMO.


Dashie still wants to stick to the plan but thankfully she's busy so if we can speed lynch you, that would be awesome.

YEAH DOUBLEBUSSING HAPPENS TOO WHICH YOU JUST DID IN THIS GAME

HAHAHAHAHA

I CANT WAIT TIL YOU GET NOOSE

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

here are games I could find with compulsive neighborizer

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4067250 - setup was Cop/Deputy/Neighborizer vs JOAT/Goon/Traitor

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3912745 (not compulsive) - Neighborizer/Macho cop/Joat vs SK vs Mafia Tracker & 2 Goons

I really can't find any other game with a full time neighborizer. Saw some 1 shots, saw some scum neighborizers also

p.edit - you are going to look like a clown if you are town.

btw, don't fall for GC/BC's flailing to think he is town, I can show you scum flailing in which town believed them and they won the game. Salamance did it in disney mafia and got a scummy nom.

we either stick to the original plan OR we do the 1 for 1.

I'm not changing my vote, if dashie comes in and changes it that's up to her.

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

btw, that 1st game I linked was the ONLY compulsive neighborizer that I found and it actually supports that my role is legit town.

doc/tracker/neighborizer is basically the same as cop/backup cop/neighborizer.

Joat is actually stronger than RB
goon = goon
traitor = traitor or goon.

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

if anyone else wants to look for compulsive neighborizers, go ahead, but I looked through every game where neighborizer was mentioned.

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

Okay I just got home from work, am shirking a few things I need to be doing to make this but wow this game has gone off the deep end

1) 1v1s are probably the dumbest thing anypony can ever do without role related information to back it up. I have seen 1v1s cost town the game more than won town anything. This goes for my other half too. NEVER do this, its a sign of a weak player who probably should not be listened to.
2) We are town because of balance. Its the same reason that CP is town. Balance. There are three scum because the game is not over. NO MATTER WHAT the last scum is, the game is scum sided without both of us being town. Neighborizer is slightly better (if that) than VT. Doc-Tracker is about even with RB-Goon-Goon/Traitor (we actually have had that discussion regarding Dyslx, I think he is scum except for the N2 result we got). GCBC is pushing three scum with one useful town PR. Three GOONS with one useful PR is usually a scum win.
3) Worst case lynching us outside of F3 is a joke. Best case we are going to be forced to come up with a 1v1 in F3.

BC part seems to think he is a half decent player or something and is taking a page out of the "lets be a hated ass" book of players like LLD and Reck. Seriously, who are you? I want to put you on my "avoid" list from here on out because players like you do nothing but make the game miserable to play in for the rest of us. There is a major reason lots of players really dislike the ones I just mentioned, they are NOT fun to play with.

When you defy logic by not looking like thing like... how to balance games and stuff like that. Or basic "if I am wrong" logic regarding PRs.

Vote Daemon

We aren't lynching GCBC. That's still a derpy move, he is very dumb and a liability town, but he is probably town. That kill of hap doesnt come from him. We lynch Daemon today, if he is town we clear Toom tonight or confirm him as scum.

@other part - Compulisve neighborizers are rare because they are horrible. I would rather the game have a VT then that because its just a very dumb role. Most mods realize that unless they are trying to make basically a fruit vendor its better as a regular one.

@GCBC - Do you really think RB/Goon/Traitor vs Doc/Neighborizer/VTs is a balanced setup? Because im not sure how that is even close to a balanced setup. Move the Traitor to VT and I would sign off on it.

[GoodCopBadCop]

btw, don't fall for GC/BC's flailing to think he is town, I can show you scum flailing in which town believed them and they won the game. Salamance did it in disney mafia and got a scummy nom.

LOL LOOK HES CHANGING THE SUBJECT

NO ONES FALLING FOR SHIT

IM GETTING LYNCHED TODAY

AND YOU ARE GETTING YLNCHED TOMORROW

THATS THE FUCKING PLAN

STICK TO IT

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH I LOVE HOW YOU ARE FORGETTING ABOUT THE PLAN ALREADY YOU SCUMBUTT

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

btw, that 1st game I linked was the ONLY compulsive neighborizer that I found and it actually supports that my role is legit town.

doc/tracker/neighborizer is basically the same as cop/backup cop/neighborizer.

Joat is actually stronger than RB
goon = goon
traitor = traitor or goon.

GCBC - go read the game I linked or basically just read this post and tell me you HONESTLY don't think this is essentially the same setup.

if you are going to embarrass yourself, I want you to have the chance to do it fully.

do you see how that setup is very close to this setup? yes or no

-J

[Toomai]

If Daemon is town I want to speedlynch GCBC tomorrow. That's my current feelings.

[Jake from State Farm]

btw, don't fall for GC/BC's flailing to think he is town, I can show you scum flailing in which town believed them and they won the game. Salamance did it in disney mafia and got a scummy nom.

LOL LOOK HES CHANGING THE SUBJECT

NO ONES FALLING FOR SHIT

IM GETTING LYNCHED TODAY

AND YOU ARE GETTING YLNCHED TOMORROW

THATS THE FUCKING PLAN

STICK TO IT

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH I LOVE HOW YOU ARE FORGETTING ABOUT THE PLAN ALREADY YOU SCUMBUTT

Nobody's listening to you

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

Shit, wrong account

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

If Daemon is town I want to speedlynch GCBC tomorrow. That's my current feelings.

If Toomai pans out, gcbc is pretty much confirmed.

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

Gcbc isn't getting lynched today. Vote daemon and stick to dashie's plan.

We are confirmed despite what gcbc tries to brainwash you with. If he's town he needs to read what was just posted. If he's scum, by all means keep fucking around.

[Dyslexicon]

-_-

Let's get moving.

VOTE: Daemon

[Toomai]

Yeah I don't think any more discussion is necessary.

Vote: Daemon385

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

I think daemon's back to l-1

[Antagon]

Oh, God.
BC's posts are giving me a brain aneurysm...

[qwints]

Votecount 4.4

Daemon385: Antagon, Toomai, Jake from Rainbowdash, Dyslexicon (4)

Toomai: Cheery Pie, Scott Brosius, Daemon385(3)

Jake from Rainbowdash: GoodCopBadCop (1)

Not voting:

With 8 Alive, it takes 5 to Lynch

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2013-06-17 13:00:00)

[absta101]

@Rainbow - I don't know much about balance. I never considered a traitor as anything useful.
Also, Toomai coming out clean doesn't comfirm us scum. There's still SB and Dys.

VOTE: Daemon
That's a lynch.
- GC

[Jake from Rainbowdash]

wrong account