In post 124, Tierce wrote: In post 116, Pjovek wrote:Not yet, no.
Suffice to say I was feeling a bit lazy.
Also I'd like to note that I never asked for a massclaim. Just a claim of really minor flavor. Not even rolenames or anything. Really minor. I honestly didn't (and don't) see the harm in it.
My main concern is the inherent risk involved in making a post like that. You appear to be an intelligent player (trolling notwithstanding), and there is an immediate risk that someone
will
think it's not a big deal indeed and start claiming info about their character. I expect you to be aware of this risk--so why take it?
Putting things simply: the scum might know which character is the Apocalypse one. Revealing universes/continuity might help them. Why do you think this is a risk worth taking, either in a trolling form ("let's see who jumps on this!") or genuinely thinking a partial flavor claim is something we should do?
PEdit: I don't see how scum having a fabricated Townread on anyone makes the second person Town.
The thing is, IF scum have additional information on the nature of this role (and we don't know that), then I would expect them to also have some kind of flavor-checking power to look for it directly.
Like a rolecop, just for flavor, I guess.
And that is if the assumption is correct.
Which means if just the universes are claimed, scum still need to investigate people seperatly for exact rolenames (no harm done).
If that is the case, and this is a rather flavor-heavy game, then I would also expect this role to have a sensible fakeclaim.
So, even under this assumption, I don't see too much of harm that may befall us.
A scum-made townread can have basically two motivations: either it's a townread on a scumbuddy to tone down suspicion on him (there was no substantial suspicion on matt at that time, so this is not the case), or it's a "buddying attempt", for lack of a better word. Basically a "look at how cool and correct my reads are, scum would never be this cool and correct"
This specific situation looks more like the second.
Keep in mind that scum already know who is town. (or not-scum at least)
In that situation, it is not rare to see people come to "correct" conclusions for bogus reasons, since the correct conclusion is already known, and only really good scumplayers put in the raw effort to fabricate a logical and sound argument for their conclusion.
It's an ends-justify-the-means thing, where they will say "but I was right so it was not wrong!"
And as a general tendency, weaker mafia players (under which category i'm already putting Eggplant considering that if he's mafia he just made a pretty newbie mistake) are also more reluctant to post a read of any nature of their buddies. They basically mistake "distancing" for "not interacting".
Looking at the situation at hand, by association it would make matt likely town, but this is what it is, preflip associations.
I don't generally like those, but they're kinda relevant in this case.
