Open 503 - POLYGAMY IS EVIL. GAME OVER

[Wisdom]

Because a) You missed this:

Although I'll prolly vote Voodoo, her last posts had no scumhunting at all other than implying than Core/TAM could be doing the same she did as scum in another game. And she was asking what we think, not stating it.

and b) I think you're scumbuddies.

And I'll add that you continue making no attempts to scumhunt at all; you're just trying to defend/deflect.

[Nachomamma8]

I have a bad feeling about Voodoo too, even though I disagree that her first post means anything either way. It's not likely that scum would slip like that in their first posts.

Cautious nature is more playstyle than alignment, I think

I'm curious why you're parking your vote on someone who you just have bad feelings about rather than someone you are actively arguing with and insinuating is scum.

I'm curious why you're subtly trying to shift Wisdom's vote to macmollie while you aren't voting them yourself, are you?
What are your reads?

[Wisdom]

And once again, you go with "I'm curious what x, y means" instead of stating "I think you're scum because x,y". This is scummy because you're not commiting, you're trying to insinuate things so that others subconsciously or consciously agree with you.

[Wisdom]

shift Wisdom's vote to macmollie

The second quote was about Marangal, not mollie

[Voodoo Lady]

I have a bad feeling about Voodoo too, even though I disagree that her first post means anything either way. It's not likely that scum would slip like that in their first posts.

Cautious nature is more playstyle than alignment, I think

I'm curious why you're parking your vote on someone who you just have bad feelings about rather than someone you are actively arguing with and insinuating is scum.

I'm curious why you're subtly trying to shift Wisdom's vote to macmollie while you aren't voting them yourself, are you?
What are your reads?

I don't think Macmollie is scum. I'm just surprised he's voting for me instead of her, given the volatility of their arguments and that he thinks we're buddies.

I'm personally sort of side-eyeing TAM right now, actually.

[Wisdom]

I don't think Macmollie is scum. I'm just surprised he's voting for me instead of her

Wait so you did mean mollie?
Then why you quoted something I said about Marangal?

[Voodoo Lady]

I don't think Macmollie is scum. I'm just surprised he's voting for me instead of her

Wait so you did mean mollie?
Then why you quoted something I said about Marangal?

Wait, that thing about the cautious playstyle wasn't directed at me?

My mistake.

[Nachomamma8]

I don't think Macmollie is scum. I'm just surprised he's voting for me instead of her, given the volatility of their arguments and that he thinks we're buddies.

I'm personally sort of side-eyeing TAM right now, actually.

cool so
what are your read(s)? you have TAM as sort of kind of leaning scum and macmollie's town? that's it?

[Wisdom]

Okay now tell me why I would vote mollie over you when I think you're buddies and you're closer to a lynch

[macmollie]

@mac: Mara's reaction was identical to her reaction in the aforementioned offsite game.

As for jumping to her defense, I was explaining something I had information on... I do this alot it's an annoying habit.

Also Mutley I probably missed your post when you made it earlier.

see this confuses me TAM because as town you probably shouldn't be jumping to someone's defence instantly on day two especially considering they had made one post. I take it you guys are good friends offsite, but are you sure Mara wouldn't manipulate it to make you feel this way? calling her town so early in such a setup is really brave and potentially stupid.

something I could accept if you were lovers but we all know you are not.

amazingly, this is my second post in this thread. I can be more active from the weekend, I'm limited through this week in particular a little. I'm reading up now

[mujie]

Hi mollie.

Tell me, though. Enomis. What would you have said if you were in her position instead of "fellow townies"?

What's the point of you asking me this? Probably something like other people?

I was just wondering, if Voodoo lady was posting quickly, would she take the time to think to say something else? But someone said she usually uses it to refer to just those who are town? I assume she meant townies as in this is a town, but I could be wrong. You guys post a lot in a night/half of a day. I'm still reading page 18! Voodoo, do you have quotes to show when you referred to townspeople as everyone instead of literally just town?

And the second quote wasn't me...

[Voodoo Lady]

TAM's interactions with VVVVVV and his purportedly theory-based vote are leading me to believe he is scum. Core claiming lovers with him is more icing on the cake than anything.

Mujie is fascinatingly non-interactive. Mostly talks to VVVVVVV and doesn't seem to have reads on anyone? Would like to see him post more.

Initially I was sort of wary about Absta because he did that thing where he asked questions to practically everybody and because the "too scummy to be scum" argument was terrible. I'm willing to chalk this up to inexperience, though. Wish he'd post more reads.

Marangal is probably town. Mutley and VVVVVVVV are both frustrating by nature, which makes it hard for me to get a read on them. I was suspicious of Viomi before she got subbed, although that was more OMGUS than anything. Macmollie's posts seem town-motivated, though. Nacho and Wisdom are townish enough that I doubt they're scum.

Enomis is weirdly focused on my """""slip""""", which strikes me as sort of weird but not necessarily scummy. Need more content on him before I can formulate a decent read that isn't just OMGUS.

Right now I think TAM and Core are part of the scumteam, and I'm side-eyeing Enomis and Mujie.

[Nachomamma8]

Core claiming lovers with him is more icing on the cake than anything.

Why?

Initially I was sort of wary about Absta because he did that thing where he asked questions to practically everybody and because the "too scummy to be scum" argument was terrible. I'm willing to chalk this up to inexperience, though. Wish he'd post more reads.

Why are you willing to chalk it up to inexperience? He's not that inexperienced at all.

Right now I think TAM and Core are part of the scumteam, and I'm side-eyeing Enomis and Mujie.

Why aren't you voting one of TAM and Core then?

[Voodoo Lady]

Hi Mujie. The point came up in an ongoing game which I am technically not supposed to quote right now, but I'm pretty certain it's come up before as well. I've got better things to do than look through all my old games right now, though.

Could you post some reads?

Core claiming lovers with him is more icing on the cake than anything.

Why?

On its own, claiming your buddy like that isn't indicative of alignment. But if I think TAM is scum, his partner making a movement that could potentially be scum-motivated is more significant.

Initially I was sort of wary about Absta because he did that thing where he asked questions to practically everybody and because the "too scummy to be scum" argument was terrible. I'm willing to chalk this up to inexperience, though. Wish he'd post more reads.

Why are you willing to chalk it up to inexperience? He's not that inexperienced at all.

Whoops. Read his join date as March 17, 2013 by accident and thought he was new here.

It's an argument I'd expect new players to make moreso than old ones is what I'm getting at here.

Right now I think TAM and Core are part of the scumteam, and I'm side-eyeing Enomis and Mujie.

Why aren't you voting one of TAM and Core then?[/quote]

I was getting to that.

VOTE: TAM

[Nachomamma8]

On its own, claiming your buddy like that isn't indicative of alignment. But if I think TAM is scum, his partner making a movement that could potentially be scum-motivated is more significant.

Why was it scum-motivated?

Whoops. Read his join date as March 17, 2013 by accident and thought he was new here.

It's an argument I'd expect new players to make moreso than old ones is what I'm getting at here.

I caught that, but I was wondering how the revelation that he wasn't inexperienced changed your view of him.

I was getting to that.

Was there a reason you didn't do it before?

[Voodoo Lady]

On its own, claiming your buddy like that isn't indicative of alignment. But if I think TAM is scum, his partner making a movement that could potentially be scum-motivated is more significant.

Why was it scum-motivated?

Player under suspicion claims with unsuspected partner to make themselves appear less scummy? Like I said-- it's a thing I've seen scum do before in Polygamist games.

Whoops. Read his join date as March 17, 2013 by accident and thought he was new here.

It's an argument I'd expect new players to make moreso than old ones is what I'm getting at here.

I caught that, but I was wondering how the revelation that he wasn't inexperienced changed your view of him.

Skews my view of him a tiny bit more towards the scum end of the spectrum. Still null on him; would like to hear his reads.

I was getting to that.

Was there a reason you didn't do it before?

Intended to vote for TAM with my next post. Decided to see if my other games here had updated before I did so. Came back to see you had posted.

[Wisdom]

Player under suspicion

what
It was core's first post
What suspicion

[Wisdom]

Okay now tell me why I would vote mollie over you when I think you're buddies and you're closer to a lynch

Also you didnt answer this

[Voodoo Lady]

Okay now tell me why I would vote mollie over you when I think you're buddies and you're closer to a lynch

Also you didnt answer this

So you're voting for me because I'm an easier target?

[Wisdom]

I'm voting for you because you're scum; it doesn't matter who I think your partners are since according to people's votes we're lynching you and not your partners.

[Voodoo Lady]

Player under suspicion

what
It was core's first post
What suspicion

You were pressuring Core, remember? One page later and completely out of the blue he claims partners with someone who everyone had a townread on.

[Wisdom]

Oh yeah my bad on this. For some reason I thought he had claimed his partner on his first post.

[Wisdom]

NO WAIT A SECOND

He DID claim on his second post, before I "pressured" him about anything
Speaking of which I wasn't pressuring him, I called him town when he claimed and we were just arguing about whether claiming is good or not

So you're lying.

[Nachomamma8]

Player under suspicion claims with unsuspected partner to make themselves appear less scummy? Like I said-- it's a thing I've seen scum do before in Polygamist games.

He wasn't really under suspicion at that point. And yeah, it is a thing other scum have done, but... that's TAM's reasoning with his push on VV.

Skews my view of him a tiny bit more towards the scum end of the spectrum. Still null on him; would like to hear his reads.

Why does it skew it just a tiny bit towards the scum end?

[mujie]

You guys post too fast for me. It's hard to get a reading because everyone will act more scummy than normal at the beginning. It makes it harder to get a good read. But of course, leave it too late and it won't help. I've realised that you're right though. I can't post enough on this thread. Most of the action takes place during night time for me, and I'm focusing more on my newbie game than this. So...

Requesting replacement please

Is this where I ask for one. Sorry. I hope my replacement will be much more helpful than I've been.

Good luck to the town!