NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

[Bacde]

This will be WIFOM but I'll say it anyway. It would be absolutely stupid for me to fakeclaim an investigation type role in my third mastin game after having a successful cop fake-claim in my last mastin game. Guaranteed someone would go back and take a look at that game to get a feel of the mods setup ideas and stumble upon how that game ended. Especially if it's an investigative role I had no experience of how to play.

ugh why are you discrediting your defense before you even say it

thats like, such a scum thing to do

Dude I'm already in analysis paralysis about what to do w/ your slot, don't make it harder

[Rena]

Because I don't care how scummy I sound?

[Nachomamma8]

bacccdddeeeeee

[mastin2]

Seventy-Fourth Votecount

:

(Seventh Votecount of Day Three,

AKA, the "Can't go five minutes without checking this game, can I?" votecount.

)

Rena - 5 (Nero Cain, Cephrir, Seanald, Desperado, Slandaar)

Bacde - 3 (Kublai Khan, Bulbazak,Rena)
Nero Cain - 1 (Nachomamma8)
Cephrir - 1 (ArcAngel9)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Bacde)

Not Voting - 7 (CrashTextDummie, PeregrineV, penguin_alien, ThAdmiral, Amethyst Kitty, Om the Destroyer, ffullisade)

With

18

alive, it's

10

to lynch.

Day Three's deadline is Monday, July 1st, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-07-01 12:30:00).

Bulbazak is V/LA over weekends indefinitely.

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Rena - 5 (Nero Cain, Cephrir, Seanald, Desperado, Slandaar)
Bacde - 3 (Kublai Khan, Bulbazak, Rena)
Nero Cain - 1 (Nachomamma8)
Cephrir - 1 (ArcAngel9)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Bacde)

Not Voting - 7 (CrashTextDummie, PeregrineV, penguin_alien, ThAdmiral, Amethyst Kitty, Om the Destroyer, ffullisade)

Last votecount was page 143, post 3550.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History D3

CrashTextDummie:
Cephrir: Rena
Nachomamma8: ThAdmiral->Nero Cain
PeregrineV:
Nero Cain: Rena
Bacde: Nachomamma8->Rena->Nachomamma8
Bulbazak: ffullisade->Bacde
Desperado: ThAdmiral->Rena
penguin_alien:
Slandaar: Amethyst Kitty->Rena
Seanald: Rena
ThAdmiral:
Rena: Bacde
Kublai Khan: Bacde
Amethyst Kitty:
ffullisade: Rena->Unvote
Om the Destroyer:
ArcAngel9: Cephrir

Spoiler: Votecount History D3

On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 02:30p,

Bacde

votes

Nachomamma8

in post 3367.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 02:40p,

Nachomamma8

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3375.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 05:23p,

Nero Cain

votes

Rena

in post 3385.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 06:01p,

Nachomamma8

votes

Nero Cain

in post 3388.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 11:14p,

Kublai Khan

votes

Bacde

in post 3397.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 04:18a,

Slandaar

votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3406.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 08:55a,

Desperado

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3417.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 12:32p,

Bubazak

votes

ffullisade

in post 3432.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 03:04p,

ArcAngel9

votes

Cephrir

in post 3444.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 06:46p,

ffullisade

votes

Rena

in post 3462.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 09:08p,

Seanald

votes

Rena

in post 3467.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 11:07a,

Desperado

votes

Rena

in post 3489.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 12:41p,

Bacde

votes

Rena

in post 3522.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 01:45p,

Slandaar

votes

Rena

in post 3528.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 02:15p,

Bulbazak

unvotes

ffullisade

and votes

Bacde

in post 3537.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 02:42p,

ffullisade

unvotes

Rena

in post 3543.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:04p,

Bacde

unvotes

Rena

and votes

Nachomamma8

in post 3548.

[Rena]

Can't go five minutes without checking this game, can I?
(Votecount)

Call it karma for the few weeks you didn't have to mod your last game. What with the crash and all that.

Oh hey, while you're here...regardless of if I'm on the winning team, can I rule the world for nostalgias sake?

<<< Who knows? We'll just have to wait and see. >>>

[Cephrir]

Rena is still probably scum but probably won't be lynched today and that makes me sad.

Bacde is not lynchable and you really need to reexamine your life if you want to lynch him.

If I have to pick someone else for blue it will probably be p_a but I have to actually finish ctrl-f'ing through everyone's iso first.

[ffullisade]

bacccdddeeeeee

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

What's the scum motivation for bacde to keep pushing on a claimed PR?

- f

[Nachomamma8]

I'm not calling Bacde scum.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho it looks like you're posturing to switch to a bacde-vote so you might as well do it now

i'm never voting you no matter how idiotic and illogical you become

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: PeregrineV

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Slandaar

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Amethyst Kitty

<<< Okay, now you're just taunting me. >_< >>>

[Bacde]

I think the "Nacho demanded I follow his scumreads in the heat of the moment" despite him saying that he is "not happy about his reads" is a pretty good reason to say nacho is scum

I said that a very long time ago in 1478:

Mollie, Bacde, I'm not screaming at you guys for being idiots this game because you do have a point because I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet. It's not that I'm lacking motivation for this game and it isn't that I'm being useless (that's bullshit, Bacde), but I definitely am not being as aggressive and on point this game because I just don't have things worked out yet. I have a pretty good scumread in Desperado, a pretty decent town core, but I don't feel comfortable with the game to the point that I usually do. Although, Bacde:

if nacho flips town you are suspect #1

If I flip town, you're living in my scumlist for a while. You owe me that much.

Notice the word "yet". As in I'm confident that I'll be perfectly happy with my reads by then. Hell, I'm pretty happy with my reads now.

Next point I haven't addressed, please.

Dude if your "yet" post indicated that you needed time before you would have strong reads, why did you demand that I follow your reads only 19 posts later?

That doesn't really seem like enough time for you to suddenly become confident of your reads

[ffullisade]

Vote: Amethyst Kitty

Last we talked, Mollie thinks your last two votes are town. I'm not sure what she thinks of PeregrineV.

- f

[Bacde]

bacccdddeeeeee

sorry I was collating some envelopes I'm an in-and-out player you know this

[ffullisade]

139:

he linked a post of what questions he wanted answered, I answered them

Quote please.

To be honest,

I don't have the time to sift through the ISOs of a 100+ page game just to find what you may or may not have been talking about. Since you brought it up, the burden of proof lies on you to provide the quote for me to respond to, not to make a comment about it and expect me to do all the work for you

. If you think my attack is weak, then you need to actually argue why it's weak and put in the effort to do so, starting with this quote.

[ffullisade]

I am up to here catching up apparently a lot has happened

[Nachomamma8]

Dude if your "yet" post indicated that you needed time before you would have strong reads, why did you demand that I follow your reads only 19 posts later?

That doesn't really seem like enough time for you to suddenly become confident of your reads

I demanded that you follow my reads in the "yet" post. Do you know why? Because if somehow on God's green earth you manage to mislynch me on D1, I'm going to have reads sexier than any read I've ever had before while I'm going down.

[Rena]

I haven't seen sexier reads than Nachos in a long time. Damn, he's hawt.

[ffullisade]

it has been my experience that when a player comments on the intelligence of the scumteam, they are usually scum. this is one of the most reliable tells I have ever had. I have seen town drop it in a lateral way and need some games to be completed to see how reliable the tell is when applied laterally but this is a very direct representation of that tell and as soon as I get the okay from fery we are going to vote you.

i think that players who prefer scum more are more likely to comment on how stupid the scumteam is
i also think it's a better tell under pressure because it's a subtle "oh, I'm not so stupid that I would do a kill THAT bad!"
and it also doesn't really work in multiball
since they are distancing themselves from one team, but not the other
sooo

I know at least 2 players who drop this tell on a regular basis and neither of them like playing scum and it isn't when they are under pressure. I mean I dropped it in my first scum game here, the one I subbed into, when I went back and iso-ed myself I thought that is what voided saw but when I asked what he saw he never mentioned it. not that he gave me a lot anyways. thad was in that game but I think he had already been lynched by then.

so you refutation is crap

and you are making bi-polar as hell in this game about you in this game

like I am going to need therapy

[Nachomamma8]

I know at least 2 players who drop this tell on a regular basis and neither of them like playing scum

EXACTLY

[ffullisade]

Actually, this makes sense. Red Ryu was a ninja. We were bound to have either a watcher or a tracker.

@Rena: Did anybody visit Om n1 or Bacde n2?

didn't she say "nothing of interest happen"?

holy shit

you are role-fishing like a mofo

if you guys let this pass you are all on my list.

I am ready to slap a vote on this but will talk to fery first

nacho if you are town look at this shit. look at it.

[ffullisade]

people I want to hear from about rena's claim:

ak
nero
bc
slandy

^ were all in gears where messiah claimed watcher and sailed to endgame

also these people:

nero
perv

^ these 2 were in posh where the traitor IaI heavily breadcrumbed starting in his very first post. they look a lot like rena's I mean I would be worried that scum would up on it and nk me for sure.

talking things out with fery

[Nachomamma8]

and you are making bi-polar as hell in this game about you in this game

like I am going to need therapy

first step is accepting that the problem is you and not me
second step is therapy

nacho if you are town look at this shit. look at it.

ummmmmmm
i don't think it's really rolefishing
considering if he was rolefishing, he would've checked to see if rena claimed people targetting bacde before he asked her about it
stupid question though

[ffullisade]

I know at least 2 players who drop this tell on a regular basis and neither of them like playing scum

EXACTLY

erm...what you are agreeing with exactly? I mean you said you think it comes from players who like to play scum and I am saying it does not matter. I have even seen praying do it and she loves to play scum.