Open 503 - POLYGAMY IS EVIL. GAME OVER

[Voodoo Lady]

NO WAIT A SECOND

He DID claim on his second post, before I "pressured" him about anything
Speaking of which I wasn't pressuring him, I called him town when he claimed and we were just arguing about whether claiming is good or not

So you're lying.

I... missed that.

[Wisdom]

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Does it affect your read on Core/TAM in any way?

[Nachomamma8]

kill her please

[Voodoo Lady]

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Does it affect your read on Core/TAM in any way?

Not at all, honestly. TAM's behavior is still weird, and Core could have preemptively claimed because he was scared he was going to screw up and wanted the security of claiming with an obvtown partner. (Not that I'm saying TAM is town-aligned, since I've made it clear I think he isn't.)

You're free to lynch me if you'd like. Though pushing for a hasty D1 lynch is hardly pro-town.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote me then.

[Nachomamma8]

Because your other suspicions are crap.

[Wisdom]

wanted the security of claiming with an obvtown partner.

And how come TAM was obvtown when Core claimed?

[Voodoo Lady]

Vote me then.

Because your other suspicions are crap.

Are you trying to push me towards making a flimsy OMGUS vote? Don't be ridiculous. I vote for who I suspect, and I don't suspect you.

I'm keeping my vote on TAM unless he convinces me otherwise.

[Nachomamma8]

"But pushing for a hasty lynch is not pro-town"
Then what was that about?

[Wisdom]

Are you trying to push me towards making a flimsy OMGUS vote?

The last time I saw someone saying "I don't vote because it will be OMGUS and I will look bad" they were scum...

[Nachomamma8]

Are you trying to push me towards making a flimsy OMGUS vote? Don't be ridiculous. I vote for who I suspect, and I don't suspect you.

AND WHAT IS THIS
WHY WOULD I BE TRYING TO PUSH YOU INTO MAKING A FLIMSY OMGUS VOTE IF I WERE TOWN???

[Voodoo Lady]

wanted the security of claiming with an obvtown partner.

And how come TAM was obvtown when Core claimed?

Did anyone question TAM's alignment at the start of the game? Nope.

TAM is very good at going unsuspected as scum, if you ask me.

"But pushing for a hasty lynch is not pro-town"
Then what was that about?

I am saying that it is hardly to our benefit to have a lynch a week and a half before the deadline.

[Voodoo Lady]

Are you trying to push me towards making a flimsy OMGUS vote? Don't be ridiculous. I vote for who I suspect, and I don't suspect you.

AND WHAT IS THIS
WHY WOULD I BE TRYING TO PUSH YOU INTO MAKING A FLIMSY OMGUS VOTE IF I WERE TOWN???

I wasn't saying you were. (Trying to push me into a flimsy OMGUS vote, I mean.) I was

asking

if you were, because otherwise I couldn't think of any other reason you'd outright ask me to vote for you.

[Wisdom]

Did anyone question TAM's alignment at the start of the game? Nope.

Did anyone state that they have a townread on TAM before Core claimed? Nope.
If you ask me most of the current townreads on TAM (including mine) are because of Core.

TAM is very good at going unsuspected as scum, if you ask me.

lol
no offense to TAM, but in both games that I played with him and he was scum he wasn't that good. In the second one I figured him out easily.

[macmollie]

okay voodoo is looking pretty bad

I wanna talk to mac first before we lay down a vote

[Nachomamma8]

I am saying that it is hardly to our benefit to have a lynch a week and a half before the deadline.

ok maybe but I don't think that it helps to wait until deadline if we're just going to lynch you anyways

I wasn't saying you were. (Trying to push me into a flimsy OMGUS vote, I mean.) I was asking if you were, because otherwise I couldn't think of any other reason you'd outright ask me to vote for you.

question remains.

[Ms Marangal]

VL, no. This is TAM's town game and this isn't Core's scum game.

Mollie, VL isn't scum and I can say that with 100% certainty

Wisdom...

Mara/VL/macmollie scum team? what are you smoking?

I'm sitting here, out-right defending Voodoo, while mollie is sitting there calling me town and VL as plausible scum making it an awkward as fuck interaction. VL and I both won the last polyg. game, you don't do that with awkward as fuck interactions, you do that by forcing wierd as fuck associations

[Nachomamma8]

Mollie, VL isn't scum and I can say that with 100% certainty

Do you know why mastin2 is mastin2 and not Mastin?

[Ms Marangal]

between other people

UNVOTE:

Mollie, who are your top reads?

Pedit: no.

[Wisdom]

Well could be wrong about mollie, but I'm sure as hell not wrong about Voodoo

[Nachomamma8]

Pedit: no.

because he claimed a 100% townread on someone who wasn't town
if you're gonna say shit like that you better have some good things to back that up

[Mutleyddmc]

Do you know why I'm mutleyddmc and not mastin4?

[The Acting Method]

On its own, claiming your buddy like that isn't indicative of alignment. But if I think TAM is scum, his partner making a movement that could potentially be scum-motivated is more significant.

Why was it scum-motivated?

Player under suspicion claims with unsuspected partner to make themselves appear less scummy? Like I said-- it's a thing I've seen scum do before in Polygamist games.

Whoops. Read his join date as March 17, 2013 by accident and thought he was new here.

It's an argument I'd expect new players to make moreso than old ones is what I'm getting at here.

I caught that, but I was wondering how the revelation that he wasn't inexperienced changed your view of him.

Skews my view of him a tiny bit more towards the scum end of the spectrum. Still null on him; would like to hear his reads.

I was getting to that.

Was there a reason you didn't do it before?

Intended to vote for TAM with my next post. Decided to see if my other games here had updated before I did so. Came back to see you had posted.

Core was not under suspicion... if anything, I was under more heat because I've been so damn upfront and open. Which by the way... Voodoo, I'm shit at scum unless I'm surrounded by newbie players who are too scared to vote me because I'm the IC. It's not easier to pick me out as scum vs town. But trust me. I would not have been so instantly disagreeable and instantly on VV's case if I was scum. Why? because the claiming partner's benefits me. I have no reason to object I just let it happen. I have a white knight complex towards Marangal. BTW, the reason I called her town is because of as I said her first post... so far she's done nothing to change that so she's town, but based on her first post and her reaction to the suggestion of the early claim, I considered it safe to assume she's town.

Voodoo you are acting rediculous and I don't think I was scum in the n00b I played with you. You're "I'm good at scum" line is BS.

[Ms Marangal]

Voodoo being scum? you're beyond wrong there

though, if the two of us are scum, who make up the other pair Wisdom?

[Wisdom]

mollie possibly
Not sure about 4th yet