Newbie 1388 Nexlexia Game Over

[yessiree]

^EBWOP "If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM (mod), or bold the text you wish to draw to (mod's) attention."

[Nobody Special]

On a separate note: NS, is it your nature as a player to post compressed and short texts? I am under the impression that you might be the type to keep your thoughts mostly to yourself until it's necessary to push players towards your line of thinking. I don't see anything wrong with that, but it's difficult to get a read on you without knowing for sure. Assuming that this belief is correct, I think you're town on the basis that each time you posted, it's presented some form of constructive argument. I even consider the vote on me to be constructive, because frankly speaking no one else has voiced an opinion on my actions, and that's either weak, lazy, or overpowering fixation on gene at the time. On the other hand, if your concise nature isn't part of your standard play, my followup question would be 'why is this different', and what's otherwise a town read becomes a lot weaker.

This is me. I have a sort of reputation for being hard to read, but this is how I naturally play. And to answer the next question, yes, I tend to play this way regardless of alignment. I've somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 games onsite, feel free to read some.


On another note, I heartily agree with Bacde. CDB is not being his usual self, to memory.

VOTE: OMG CDB

[yessiree]

I've read some of NS's recent game posts histories. Most of his posts are under two sentences long.

VOTE: UNVOTE

Un-voting him for now.

However, NS, if you're town, you don't necessarily seem too eager doing your share of scum-hunting.

[Bicephalous Bob]

Of the top wagons, I agree with the votes on gene the most, and I'm still somewhat confused by the yessiree slot. Though he is being deliberately anti-town by using methods that are not better at finding scum than random (such as statistics), and also by playing to a "survivalist" strategy, I'm not sure that a mafia would be so candid about playing to such a variant style.

I don't think yessirree is playing differently on purpose. This is both his and my first game on this forum and I didn't know the exact winning condition of a townie until you stated it, so that's a null tell or whatever you kids call it these days.

Also, saying that you don't find yessirree suspicious is one thing, but saying you don't understand why others find him suspicious is quite another. We're talking about the guy who said, "I am town. So I will not be lynched today, I will not be lynched tomorrow, and I will not be lynched on any day thereafter."

If you can explain why a townie would say that, I'll happily switch my vote back to CDB.

[yessiree]

Bob, would you like to get lynched?

[Rikablu]

I don't think yessirree is playing differently on purpose. This is both his and my first game on this forum and

I didn't know the exact winning condition of a townie until you stated it,

so that's a null tell or whatever you kids call it these days.

Also, saying that you don't find yessirree suspicious is one thing, but saying you don't understand why others find him suspicious is quite another. We're talking about the guy who said, "I am town. So I will not be lynched today, I will not be lynched tomorrow, and I will not be lynched on any day thereafter."

If you can explain why a townie would say that, I'll happily switch my vote back to CDB.

Wait what.

Vote Bicephalous Bob

[DoctorPepper]

VOTE: Bicephalous Bob

Bob, the role PM states the exact win condition of town. This is your first game right? By saying you didnt know the wincon, you didnt get the PM containing the town wincon.

How did I not notice that slip???
Barring an epic bus, Rikalbu is town.
Bacde is town, he isnt playing like the scum Bacde I've been partners with
Yes actually looking at meta cases actually strikes me as an effort to scum hunt, but he still defends himself too much.
The only scummy thing with CDB is his lack of posting, which isnt exactly scummy but sure he needs pressure.


But this is a huge slip, lets lynch Bob

[Rikablu]

Technically, all PMs are in initial posts the Mod provided (I had to doublecheck before the vote), so everything was open content. But I'm more willing to assume this is a scumslip due to lazy scum not reading the opening posts than town not even reading their own role PM.

[DoctorPepper]

Yes, because its in a spoiler tag that people might not read.

Bob, if you didnt know the "exact" wincon, what did you think it was, if you were town?

[Bacde]

Biceph might be scum, but I'm not convinced that what he posted was a slip.

Why is it that when Bob admits to not knowing the win condition of a townie, its a slip, but when yessirree insists that he wants to be alive at the endgame for a "bigger feeling of accomplishment", despite that meaning nothing and not being in the town win condition, its not a slip?

[Bacde]

"I am town. So I will not be lynched today, I will not be lynched tomorrow, and I will not be lynched on any day thereafter."

There are town-motivated and scum-motivated reasons to post this, this statement is a null tell.

[DoctorPepper]

Wording. Bob's is more direct and feels like a slip. Yes, just feels like someone who wants to be alive, which is both scum because thats the wincon and a townie who feels that being alive is some sort of accomplishment. That didnt register to me as a slip, when I was a newbie, I wanted to be alive til endgame, town or scum.

Bacde, if it wasnt a slip, how exactly did he not know the win con of town?

[Nobody Special]

Biceph might be scum, but I'm not convinced that what he posted was a slip.

Why is it that when Bob admits to not knowing the win condition of a townie, its a slip, but when yessirree insists that he wants to be alive at the endgame for a "bigger feeling of accomplishment", despite that meaning nothing and not being in the town win condition, its not a slip?

One's an attitude of play, the other is not realizing your opponents wincon is posted in the thread.

[yessiree]

Bacde, the difference between Bob and I is that: I want to be alive knowing that I would still win if I die, where Bob states he doesn't know the

exact

win condition. Whether that was a scumslip or not, I'm not sure. But let's see how he defends himself.

[Bacde]

I'm liking the similar responses from my townreads--I'm feeling like we have a well organized town core in this game

Then again, I often feel this way right before being brutally destroyed by scum

I want to see Bob's response to the slip accusation, which looks as though it may have been a slip.

[yessiree]

@Mod, in case you missed it, gene needs a replacement

I request replacement.

[DoctorPepper]

Yes. You do realize that being alive as town means that scum think youre an asset to them or lynch bait.

Anyway, I'd like to see if Bob can squirm out of this, but I dont see it happening. You cant just say "I didnt read my role PM properly" to explain how you didnt know the town win condition.

I do wish CDB would come back as he promised. NS, do you still think Rika is scum after that?

[Bacde]

I'm actually being somewhat reserved about calling out my townreads. Perhaps this will result unfavorably, but I'm comfortable for now. I definitely want to hear what Bob is going to say about this slip accusation before I make any vote commitments.

[yessiree]

Yes. You do realize that being alive as town means that scum think youre an asset to them or lynch bait.

Only realized that after Bacde told me about it.

Anyway, I'd like to see if Bob can squirm out of this, but I dont see it happening. You cant just say "I didnt read my role PM properly" to explain how you didnt know the town win condition.

I do wish CDB would come back as he promised. NS, do you still think Rika is scum after that?

On that note, JKM has disappeared for more than 2 days now...

[Nexus]

Pebro replaces gene1991

[Pebro]

Could someone give me a quick rundown about the game so far. Who's suspected of being mafia and why.

[DoctorPepper]

Hi, Bob made a scum slip. That is all.

[Pebro]

He might just be really lazy..

On that note,

Nexus

, is it possible to have more vote counts. Preferably one every page. I'm too lazy to scroll back and look how many votes someone has.

@Nobody Special, how does Channel play normally?

[Bicephalous Bob]

The role PM doesn't clearly say whether or not a townie has to be alive to win. I assumed, even after I read the role PM, that the real winners are the ones who live to tell about it since that's the case in most games. Bacde said yessirree was probably town because he was using a uncommon survival tactic, so I said I, too, wasn't aware of this:

You don't need to survive to win

In fact, often dying can be good for your win condition (as town) as people will see that your posts are coming from a town perspective, and can remember your opinions

It was a confession, not a slip. It's also the only point I was making in that post. I didn't dedicate a post to saying I didn't know that the townies win when the mafiosi are no more, which is essentially the only thing said in the role PM.

[DoctorPepper]

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated

Unless you are a threat to town, its okay to be eliminated. Im not buying it.