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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:03 am

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In post 148, TheIrishPope wrote:I voted Zoidberg for calling random people out without reason. Metal Sonic is doing stupid things. Zoidberg is doing silly things.
*cough* two months *cough*
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Son, it's not enough for you to just give your "reasons" for voting. Anyone can do that, and if you think what you're doing now qualifies as scumhunting then you're sorely mistaken.

You have to demonstrate why I have scum motives and why I don't have town motives.

Why is "Calling people out without reason", as you put it, something scum would do? Why
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What you're doing is just skimming off the top, looking at only the most shallow and superficial level of what's going on.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:07 am

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why do you guys play like newbie mcnewbieton?

why not emulate zoidberg?
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:09 am

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In post 143, Psyche wrote:Wagon-hopping is an effective way to drive the game forward. It should be obvious by now that I think so. I don't think TIP's content was "good"; I think it indicated that he is town.

You don't have a very good understanding of what makes something scummy. While I'll do my best to help you for the sake of this game, this is a problem you'll ultimately have to work through yourself.
There's a difference between wagon-hopping and jumping on every damn wagon which is around using other people's reasoning. Wagon-hopping is an easy way for scum to masquerade as town ("look, I'm voting everyone for pressure, I'm town!") It's not a singularly town motive. You never explain why was TIP's content town as opposed to him playing dumb either.

and guess what? I don't particularly feel like being patronised by you. I don't really know why you bothered putting it in (to make me think you're a good player and show deference?) but honestly I don't think I need your "best of help" and if you worked on posting less of this nonsense:

In post 82, Psyche wrote:
In post 80, Rubicon wrote:How in the world is 73 a towntell?
Attention of the suspect was placed on figuring out who to lynch as opposed to a wagon whose basis the suspect found spurious.

But really, it's the culmination of a style of reaction to pressure that is not at all aberrant.
and showing off your vocabulary we'd get places faster. You intentionally flaunted it there for no reason. Be concise. See, now I'm helping you! Ultimately though, you'll have to work through it.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:11 am

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Hey TSO what do you think about TIP and Roflcopter?
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:13 am

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I was intentionally rude for the lulz and I am sorry.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:13 am

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There's a difference between wagon-hopping and jumping on every damn wagon which is around using other people's reasoning. Wagon-hopping is an easy way for scum to masquerade as town ("look, I'm voting everyone for pressure, I'm town!") It's not a singularly town motive. You never explain why was TIP's content town as opposed to him playing dumb either.
Also, yes I did. Read again.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:14 am

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Trolololol syntax
Zoidberg, so your actions are Town motivated? Explain.
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:18 am

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In post 156, TheIrishPope wrote:Trolololol syntax
Zoidberg, so your actions are Town motivated? Explain.
You're the one saying I'm scum, so it's incumbent upon you to fucking
demonstrate
why I'm scum.

I'm not explaining shit to you until you actually produce something resembling scumhunting.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:19 am

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huehuehuehuehuehuehue

"Explain why what you're doing is town, because from my scum POV I'm having trouble understanding the town mindset in this circumstance"

I mean really.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:21 am

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In post 135, Mr E Roll wrote:There seems to be some incongruity between your supposed excitement to discover the scum flavor you expressed in 114 and the disappointment you’ve expressed in 117 about the lame flavor.

I’m also concerned about your lack of interest in scum. Flavor should be something that adds to the enjoyment not something that negates the importance of scum hunting.
Why does the incongruity itself make him scum though?

The last part is a rehashed line that more often than not is not actual mafia but layz town.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:25 am

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Because hiding info is sooo beneficial, ain't that right scumZoidberg
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:28 am

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In post 160, TheIrishPope wrote:Because hiding info is sooo beneficial, ain't that right scumZoidberg
Well in this case, it sure is. As you're demonstrating so eloquently, scum have a hard time putting themselves into the town mindset.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:31 am

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In post 144, TheIrishPope wrote:I'd disagree
Silly = scum
Stupid might be Town or scum
In post 156, TheIrishPope wrote:Trolololol syntax
Zoidberg, so your actions are Town motivated? Explain.
Why describe the difference between silly and stupid if you are going to use them interchangeably?
In post 159, Zed17 wrote:Why does the incongruity itself make him scum though?
The incongruity makes me believe he is lying. I think lying about an interest in discovering the flavor is more likely to come from scum.

In fact I think he told us what the scum flavor is.
In post 114, Metal Sonic wrote:there is no scum in this game, only calvin
Scum flavor is the bad/evil/mischievous side of Calvin.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:52 am

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In post 162, Mr E Roll wrote:Scum flavor is the bad/evil/mischievous side of Calvin.
Could be. Not sure why there's more than a passing interest in what the scum flavour is, though. Unless there's a rolecop it's irrelevant due to the (easy-mode) habit of moderators on this site whereby they give bulletproof fakeclaims.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:53 am

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Rather than speculate about what the scum flavour is, let's talk about Roflcopter and IrishPope.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:54 am

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In post 153, Zoidberg wrote:Hey TSO what do you think about TIP and Roflcopter?
I trust rofl's judgment usually but again he's not justified his vote so I feel no need to address him.
I've said already TiP's scum game is to act foolish and he tried in the early game to do this. It didn't work and so he changed. He's on the scum side of null.

PEdit: Metal Sonic looks shit for making flavour comments and no scumhunting at all. There's no point speculating d1 when we haven't even seen the amount of kills. :|
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:56 am

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In post 165, T S O wrote:I trust rofl's judgment
So you think I'm scum based on rofl's judgment?
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:58 am

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No, I said that he didn't justify it so really I can't know. I'm saying he's a strong town player and he co-orchestrated a Village win I had so I respect his ability.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:38 am

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Zoidberg, it's incumbent upon you to show me you are Town. You haven't done anything Towny, and I don't see Town motivation from your posts.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:20 am

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In post 162, Mr E Roll wrote: Why describe the difference between silly and stupid if you are going to use them interchangeably?
Did you miss this question or choose to ignore it?
In post 168, TheIrishPope wrote:Zoidberg, it's incumbent upon you to show me you are Town. You haven't done anything Towny, and I don't see Town motivation from your posts.
If you believe town has the burden to prove their innocence what should I make of your decision to withhold your reads until some pressure was taken off of you? If definitely did not appear that you felt it was incumbent upon you to show yourself as town..
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:23 am

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My bad. Well, I admit I used the wrong word. I will be more careful with what I say.
No no no, you misrep me, good sir. I am not withholding reads because I have votes on me. I withhold reads because scum will see me as lynch bait because of it.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:39 am

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In post 168, TheIrishPope wrote:Zoidberg, it's incumbent upon you to show me you are Town. You haven't done anything Towny, and I don't see Town motivation from your posts.
To be fair, you throwing down the gauntlet and demanding that Zoidberg show you he's town, means that you're going to try and take any little thing that you feel he isn't doing pro-town and try to blow it up as scummy (in my opinion).
TheIrishPope wrote:I am not withholding reads because I have votes on me. I withhold reads because scum will see me as lynch bait because of it.
How will scum see you as lynch bait? You with-holding information doesn't help anyone. If you have information, put it on the table so we can read it over. You said it yourself:
TheIrishPope wrote:Because hiding info is sooo beneficial, ain't that right scumZoidberg
I'll rest my case here

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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:52 am

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Meh
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:08 am

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well put sir...well put.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:52 am

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