Calvin and Hobbes Mafia(GAME OVER! Grownups Mafia Wins!)

[Metal Sonic]

Supreme 180

Why don't you join a skateboarding competition

[Zoidberg]

It's not a lie; I have never played with him before. I'm pressuring him, so shh go away

Pro tip: When you're the most anti-town player in the thread, "pressuring someone" doesn't work.

[TheIrishPope]

I'm the most anti-town? I was unaware. Hmm.

[Zoidberg]

'Too dumb to be scum' is a legit strategy. Props, TIP.

You quoted this on your wiki page. Right now you're playing like you've gone full retard. How 'bout you make some cogent, well-reasoned arguments instead of playing to your admitted scum meta.

[TheIrishPope]

If you check the game in question and my play here, you'll see it's very different.

[T S O]

Skull is working on town rationale. Too bad scum can play that card, too.
Not getting the Irish Pope/Zoidberg tension. It feels contrived, given they're both flinging baseless arguments back and forth as if they had merit.
Otherwise, I definitely don't like how inflammatory Irish Pope is, especially in response to Skullduggery.
We're getting nowhere as it is.

My history with big games has generally been a pretty big day 1, then short days for the rest. Honestly, I'd prefer lynching out weaker players so they don't make it to those last clutch days.
Also, those players could easily be scum hiding behind the guise of being a weak player, or playing to their meta, etc.
Not that there's much else to go on at page 8 right now. Eh, maybe I'll comb the thread and notice something worthwhile.

What I got from this:

"Skull seems town- wait, no that's how scum can play too."
"Pope-Zoidberg is contrived, Pope is being obtuse."
"I'm all for policy lynching weaker players, regardless of alignment."
"You see, newer players -could- be scum."
"I might re-read."

1/5 useful things.

[Metal Sonic]

If you check the game in question and my play here, you'll see it's very different.

I like your avatar

I don't like your name

[penguin_alien]

Metal Sonic, who do you actually think is scum?

[Metal Sonic]

Well theirishpope is certainly suspect

[Desperado]

Skull is working on town rationale. Too bad scum can play that card, too.
Not getting the Irish Pope/Zoidberg tension. It feels contrived, given they're both flinging baseless arguments back and forth as if they had merit.
Otherwise, I definitely don't like how inflammatory Irish Pope is, especially in response to Skullduggery.
We're getting nowhere as it is.

My history with big games has generally been a pretty big day 1, then short days for the rest. Honestly, I'd prefer lynching out weaker players so they don't make it to those last clutch days.
Also, those players could easily be scum hiding behind the guise of being a weak player, or playing to their meta, etc.
Not that there's much else to go on at page 8 right now. Eh, maybe I'll comb the thread and notice something worthwhile.

What I got from this:

"Skull seems town- wait, no that's how scum can play too."
"Pope-Zoidberg is contrived, Pope is being obtuse."
"I'm all for policy lynching weaker players, regardless of alignment."
"You see, newer players -could- be scum."
"I might re-read."

1/5 useful things.

There's a useful thing in that lot?

Vote: Varsoon

And I naked voted in RVS because I felt like it.

[Varsoon]

Not my fault if players have terrible perception.

More aware players could pick up a lot from what I'm putting down, but I'll spell it out for you.

Skull is null leaning town.
Pope and Zoidberg are both scum-reads of mine.
I support my vote on Metal Sonic because he's not doing anything to advance a strong town agenda and because he's coming off as a weaker player that I'd rather not have around in a Lylo situation.

Also, (this is mostly a bone for BRO, who wants to see more reaction shenanigans from me), one could see what I wrote as a deliberate attempt to cull a response like the ones I got from you guys. It's interesting that Desperado slams a vote, where T S O just calls it largely useless and does nothing about it. This makes me lean Desperado more town than T S O, even though Desperado is being defensive about his naked vote. Desperado, you don't need to be so defensive if you're town. /shrug.

Regardless, I'll post what I want, when I want, how I want. If you guys have a problem with that, give me hell for it, but you'll just be antagonizing town.

[Desperado]

Desperado, you don't need to be so defensive if you're town. /shrug.

This is a weird misrep. TSO bolded a question asking me to explain my naked vote. So I answered him. How does this equate to me being so defensive?

[Metal Sonic]

just thought of some bullshit about my claiming



aha hah haha

lol nah

[Varsoon]

Desperado, you don't need to be so defensive if you're town. /shrug.

This is a weird misrep. TSO bolded a question asking me to explain my naked vote. So I answered him. How does this equate to me being so defensive?

Sorry, didn't catch that.
Please quote stuff that you're responding to if it isn't on the same page, man.
At the least, I feel a lot better about my town-read on you now.

[Varsoon]

just thought of some bullshit about my claiming



aha hah haha

lol nah

What?

[Zoidberg]

just thought of some bullshit about my claiming



aha hah haha

lol nah

Don't spam the thread, please.

[Zoidberg]

roflcopter:

Did you miss this? Here it is again.

Why should we lynching zoidberg today?(If the answer is because he’s scum, follow up question; why is he scum?)

Don't want you to miss it.

Here it is again.

Why should we lynching zoidberg today?(If the answer is because he’s scum, follow up question; why is he scum?)

Eagerly waiting your reply, but also expecting you to just dodge the question again.

[BROseidon]

Vote: MEtal Sonic

114 is weird, thought process doesn't seem natural. I doubt that if he were really wondering about scum's flavor he would say there's no scum in the game right above it.

117 is also concerning if we take 114's context. If he were scum, his thought process would follow as something like 'why is my flavor so out of place with my alignment' which is a lot more reasonable than if he were town going along the lines of 'why do i have bad guys in my flavor if I'm town'. More likely the former because if he were town thinking what I just wrote (given what he said before), he wouldn't have asked about scum's flavor because he knew it wouldn't be alignment indicative.

Have you played with MS before?

Varsoon's first content post worries me a little. It would worry me a lot of TIP weren't in this thread, because Varsoon might not be being the VI because we already have one.

NS is coming off as town. One of my stronger townreads.

I don't like day 1 lynching VIs, because I feel like they tend to be town more often than scum. I don't actually see scum-motivation in TIPs actions, just stupid motivation.

E Roll have you ever played with MS?

Actually that question applies to everyone on the MS wagon? Have you played with him before?

TSO can be town for now too. Yeah, TSO is my strongest townread at this point.

Skullduggery can be town too.

TIP's VI-ness feels more like an act than actual VI behavior, and it's interesting that an MS counter-wagon has started to form.

VOTE: TIP if he flips scum than I want to look at that MS wagon.

[Zoidberg]

Vote: MEtal Sonic

114 is weird, thought process doesn't seem natural. I doubt that if he were really wondering about scum's flavor he would say there's no scum in the game right above it.

117 is also concerning if we take 114's context. If he were scum, his thought process would follow as something like 'why is my flavor so out of place with my alignment' which is a lot more reasonable than if he were town going along the lines of 'why do i have bad guys in my flavor if I'm town'. More likely the former because if he were town thinking what I just wrote (given what he said before), he wouldn't have asked about scum's flavor because he knew it wouldn't be alignment indicative.

Have you played with MS before?

Varsoon's first content post worries me a little. It would worry me a lot of TIP weren't in this thread, because Varsoon might not be being the VI because we already have one.

NS is coming off as town. One of my stronger townreads.

I don't like day 1 lynching VIs, because I feel like they tend to be town more often than scum. I don't actually see scum-motivation in TIPs actions, just stupid motivation.

E Roll have you ever played with MS?

Actually that question applies to everyone on the MS wagon? Have you played with him before?

TSO can be town for now too. Yeah, TSO is my strongest townread at this point.

Skullduggery can be town too.

TIP's VI-ness feels more like an act than actual VI behavior, and it's interesting that an MS counter-wagon has started to form.

VOTE: TIP if he flips scum than I want to look at that MS wagon.

Wow this post is scumtastic.

You don't like voting for VIs, you don't see scum motivation, but at the same time you think it's an act and that he's scummy and you're voting him?

[Zoidberg]

Vote: MEtal Sonic

114 is weird, thought process doesn't seem natural. I doubt that if he were really wondering about scum's flavor he would say there's no scum in the game right above it.

117 is also concerning if we take 114's context. If he were scum, his thought process would follow as something like 'why is my flavor so out of place with my alignment' which is a lot more reasonable than if he were town going along the lines of 'why do i have bad guys in my flavor if I'm town'. More likely the former because if he were town thinking what I just wrote (given what he said before), he wouldn't have asked about scum's flavor because he knew it wouldn't be alignment indicative.

Have you played with MS before?

Varsoon's first content post worries me a little. It would worry me a lot of TIP weren't in this thread, because Varsoon might not be being the VI because we already have one.

NS is coming off as town. One of my stronger townreads.

I don't like day 1 lynching VIs, because I feel like they tend to be town more often than scum. I don't actually see scum-motivation in TIPs actions, just stupid motivation.

E Roll have you ever played with MS?

Actually that question applies to everyone on the MS wagon? Have you played with him before?

TSO can be town for now too. Yeah, TSO is my strongest townread at this point.

Skullduggery can be town too.

TIP's VI-ness feels more like an act than actual VI behavior, and it's interesting that an MS counter-wagon has started to form.

VOTE: TIP if he flips scum than I want to look at that MS wagon.

Wow this post is scumtastic.

You don't like voting for VIs, you don't see scum motivation, but at the same time you think it's an act and that he's scummy and you're voting him?

[BROseidon]

Wow I need to edit my posts more.

I tend to post as I read. His earlier posts were null. His later ones were worse.

[BROseidon]

But yeah I probably deserve to be lynched for that regardless of alignment >.>

[Mr E Roll]

E Roll have you ever played with MS?

Actually that question applies to everyone on the MS wagon? Have you played with him before?

No. And for clarification I left the MS wagon and am voting TIP

[Skullduggery]

NS is coming off as town. One of my stronger townreads.

NS = Nobody Special, right? If so, how is he one of your stronger Town reads already when he's made a grand total of two posts -- both of which are basically just saying that he'll be more active later? I get nothing from that.

Null, sure. Null-leaning-Town, understandable. One of your strongest Town reads, though? I don't see how that's possible.

In fact I think he told us what the scum flavor is.

there is no scum in this game, only calvin

Scum flavor is the bad/evil/mischievous side of Calvin.

If Metal Sonic was Scum, why would he tell us this?

My theory is that his disappointment with the very bad and lame, flavor resulted in sub-optimal play.

If you think my premise is wrong what do you think he intended to convey by saying there is no scum only Calvin?

Good question. I think Metal Sonic would be more qualified to answer it, though.

I was kind of hoping Metal Sonic would actually answer this, but...

Suppose Metal Sonic is Scum and the flavor really is that the Scum team is different evil sides of Calvin. It would be detrimental for him to tell everybody what his team's flavor is because after we get a flip or two, we're all going to wonder how Metal Sonic knew what the Scum flavor was ahead of time. Then, of course, we'd draw the logical conclusion and lynch him.

I'm inclined to say that Metal Sonic is Town for this reason alone. Worthless Town, sure, but Town nonetheless.

[TheIrishPope]

I highly think VI-ness is impossible to fake.

Regardless, I'll post what I want, when I want, how I want. If you guys have a problem with that, give me hell for it, but you'll just be antagonizing town.

This struck me as awkward. Saying you don't have boundaries doesn't make you Town.
VOTE: Varsoon