Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[Andrius]

It is not possible for bro-gif-spinach-ms to all be scum. It is however possible for all of them to be stupid. Can I talk to somebody else please?

I'm all ears.

she leaves out MS from her scum pile even though she called him scummy before and after this. Not sure if she would more likely leave a partner out or remember to keep a partner in her scumpile.

Good find.

[Andrius]

I'll read later tonight when I'm finally done traveling..

[TiphaineDeath]

Hi andi, what do you think of my proposed scumteams?

MS=blue

Spinach/bro or Spinach/GIF as red?

[waynegg]

Hi andi, what do you think of my proposed scumteams?

MS=blue

Spinach/bro or Spinach/GIF as red?

Yes Andy. What do you think of TiphaneDeath throwing a big pile of shit and hoping it sticks on anyone but himself? I too would be interested in your thoughts on this.

And where has Nacho been

lurking

hiding the past couple of days?

[Nachomamma8]

I've been repainting my mom's deck for father's day.

[Nachomamma8]

Okay, I'm still confident in Andy town thanks to claim+earlier play. I'm not going to go through that read again.

[TiphaineDeath]

... Spinach, get back in your hydra.

I have not been throwing shit everywhere. I have two solid town reads, Nacho/andi. in addition to myself that's 3/8 remaining alive that I am confident are not scum of any kind.

SAD-Spinach-Bro-MS-GIF must then be my remaining scum pool.

3/5 of you are scum.

I haven't been poking sad because he just isn't fucking posting. I don't know what to do with lurkers, hopefully he'll get replaced.

Assuming I am not going to try to get a lurker lynch that leaves 3/4 of Spinach-Bro-MS-GIF as scum.

So yes, those four people? I've been attacking them. Will you shutup about shit throwing now please? You seriously irritate me.

[Nachomamma8]

GiF still seems town, but I would love if he posted more.

[GuyInFreezer]

So far since my read reset

MS ↑
TD ↓
Nacho ↨
SAD ↓
BRO ↨
Andrius ↑↑↑♫
Spinach ↨

I expected someone to comment on this, but no one didn't :<

Hi andi, what do you think of my proposed scumteams?

MS=blue

Spinach/bro or Spinach/GIF as red?

No.

If spinach is scum, I think he's blue.

GiF still seems town, but I would love if he posted more.

Hi
Let's talk about spinach.

[GuyInFreezer]

no one did*

[GuyInFreezer]

well MS did, but all he said was "cutie arrows"

[Nachomamma8]

Hi
Let's talk about spinach.

I currently don't think he's scum. Cabd said this would be his first game as scum, and his paranoid nature is shining through pretty clearly. His scumhunting by "liar's tells", his gambit to get someone to tell him to rush the day, all of those seemed to be pretty strong towntells to me. Do you disagree?

[GuyInFreezer]

I agree that his "liar tells" are strong townmove. I was reading TMT's iso and his initial reads were bothering me a hell lot enough to cast doubt in my townread on him and since then I've been going back and forth on him regarding my read on him.

[TiphaineDeath]

I'm pretty confident MS is the last blue scum, look at the relational stuff with rach and orc.

[Nachomamma8]

In the end, TMT's ISO wasn't enough for me to make a strong read on. But in particular, the backdown on AJ which we now know has absolutely nothing to do with alignment and the way he engaged my read on him felt sort of town, as well as the way he was replaced; he clearly didn't even look up his name and see if he was lynched/in trouble before he started posting, and that feels like something that town is far likelier to do than scum.

[Nachomamma8]

Yay, another person who can tell me why he's town. Oh, Beauty and the Beast agrees. I'm not seeing it.

BRO still wasn't voting at this point, and I have no idea why. He USUALLY doesn't have that much trouble putting a vote down in early game...

Think that 2 is likely scum. Nacho is reading super townie and I trust his read on ffery, especially when my gut is giving me the same thing after reading the whole thing. Ffery cracked pretty fucking hard.

<snip>

Oh, yeah, VOTE: TD. Think this is the best wagon to jump on right now.

Saying that he trusts me and then deciding to vote TD instead of 2 is very, very strange ESPECIALLY since ffery cracked "pretty fucking hard".

I’m down for a 2 lynch. I've thought she’s scum since her , and nothing that has happened since I first scumread her has made me want to change my read.

VOTE: 2

BRO finally hops on the 2 wagon when there's already 6 votes on them. But he doesn't really engage the wagon before then and he sort of dances around it until now, which leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

B updates his scumreads. TD vs MS seems to be town vs town at this point.

1943 is just more evidence that AJ is scum. Ffery's "case" doesn't build in any way, just providing analysis of individual posts, when the entire point of building a case like that is to determine a trajectory and look for overarching patterns.

Yeah, thinking Letters (or w/e the slot is called now), TD, and MS are all town. AJ seems like a very likely scumpartner. I'm having a rough time finding who the others would be from this, though.

Why did you say that TD vs MS was town v town, BRO?
I also don't like that the only conclusion that he makes is that AJ was a scumpartner and the group of people were town. It does suggest BRO doesn't know it was multiball, which is a towntell at this point.

2 was obvscum. Not so much the buldey-half, but the ffery-half reeked of scum. How could you not see that?

And this seems sort of weird as well, considering he didn't vote 2 until very late.

Hmmm.

[Nachomamma8]

Really starting to not like 2 after these last few pages :/.

MS also danced the fuck around the 2 wagon without putting down a vote on it.

GIF and MS go in to the, "To be checked out pile"

After tunneling the fuck out of MS the entire game, he suddenly backs off...? Why?

Hmmmmm.

[Nachomamma8]

I don't know what to do with lurkers, hopefully he'll get replaced.

plus this is just bullshit

[Nachomamma8]

I think the final scum are MS-TD-SAD. And I think that SAD should be the first lynch because I'm extremely confident that he's scum.

and before anyone goes "oh let's not lynch a lurker it's not a good plan",
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=4450
Andy should remember that.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh Nacho.
I don't think you explained your readchange on MS.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh also thanks for clearing up my head a bit for me re: spinach.

This post alone was the most of the reason I had that slot as town:

GIF can you do me at the same time because we can do it in real time, we may not be on at the same time like this for a while

[Nachomamma8]

Oh Nacho.
I don't think you explained your readchange on MS.

I didn't. He shifted out of the townread slot when I looked at Mainstream Mafia, where he got lost and basically said "fuck it, I'm not doing shit". With that in mind, his reads list while he was getting left behind seems more like trying to seem like he was doing something without doing anything at all.

[Nachomamma8]

There's also the inconsistencies in reads earlier that I just didn't like.

[GuyInFreezer]

Strange. That same game made me townread MS.

[Nachomamma8]

Why?