Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[Nachomamma8]

Chance to crosskill VS automatically one NK less? I'll take the one NK less every time. Every-Single-Time.

Pedit: huh, I'm calling you red scum, if redscum flip than I was right X_x. Explain that question better.

^

You two get along so well when you're trying to attack me.
Enemy of my enemy, as they say.

[TiphaineDeath]

Now you are acting stupid, and stupid you are not. I refuse to continue this line of questioning because it has reached its logical conclusion and you are still poking it with a stick.

I have repeated myself for you like three times, ask something new and meaningfull or bugger off.

Pedit: There are two red scum left, unless SAD is the one who flips red scum, nothing.

[Nachomamma8]

I have repeated myself for you like three times, ask something new and meaningfull or bugger off.

There are 8 alive. If we lynch blue scum today and no kill is blocked, there will be 6 alive tomorrow. We will have 2 mislynches to catch 2 red scum.
If we lynch red today, blue scum can hit red scum and red scum can hit town (or vice-versa), meaning there will be 5 alive tomorrow and we will have 2 mislynches to catch one scum.
Alternatively, red scum and blue scum can shoot one another and we can automatically win.

So why is "one less NK" more valuable than more mislynches or a chance to instantly win?

[Nachomamma8]

unless SAD is the one who flips red scum, nothing.

What if SAD flips red scum? Who is your new suspicion for other red scum?

[Andrius]

and before anyone goes "oh let's not lynch a lurker it's not a good plan",
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=4450
Andy should remember that.

[spinachattack]

You slipped. That simple. Pretty much nothing short of that or a night action reveal would have made me change my read on you but.... there it is.

What happens if redscum flip?

Ugh!!! A 3v3 and I gotta step in to point out the obvious??? NACHO HAS CONCEDED THAT HE SLIPPED, IS SCUM, AND IS NOW JUST CRUMBING HE IS RED. If it has to be Blue, he isn't the tree to be barking up.

[TiphaineDeath]

One less NK is a guaranteed bonus, the other scenarios you described rely on the living scum misplaying or on blind chance.

I like neither trusting my enemy to misplay, nor trusting to chance to fall in my favor.

I'll take the 100 percent bonus thank you very much.

Pedit: God, if SAD flips red scum I think I would have an apoplexy. Lets think for a minute. That would pretty much clear you. So we would have You-Andi as town. I dunno who I would pick as SAD's buddy from GIF-Bro-Spinach. GIF maybe? In the unlikely even that this occurs I would probably end up doing full iso's on all three of those people.

[Metal Sonic]

then TD is wrong?

[TiphaineDeath]

Wait, nacho is crumbing red, where. Help me I'm lost.

[Nachomamma8]

The rest is mostly weak reads and process of elimination.

And expand on this too! How are your reads weak if the end result PoEs BRO as the last red scum?

[Nachomamma8]

Ugh!!! A 3v3 and I gotta step in to point out the obvious??? NACHO HAS CONCEDED THAT HE SLIPPED, IS SCUM, AND IS NOW JUST CRUMBING HE IS RED. If it has to be Blue, he isn't the tree to be barking up.

[spinachattack]

SAD is town =/= strong town

SAD cannot be my buddy, meaning he's not red. And he's absolutely convinced that you're the blue.
So...

And here too... Damn some people are slow on the uptake.

[Metal Sonic]

You slipped. That simple. Pretty much nothing short of that or a night action reveal would have made me change my read on you but.... there it is.

What happens if redscum flip?

Ugh!!! A 3v3 and I gotta step in to point out the obvious??? NACHO HAS CONCEDED THAT HE SLIPPED, IS SCUM, AND IS NOW JUST CRUMBING HE IS RED. If it has to be Blue, he isn't the tree to be barking up.

well who's going over? TD or nacho?

[TiphaineDeath]

...... I'll go through this one last time.

MS is blue scum
You are red scum.
Andi is town.
I was working on the assumption that GIF/Spinach were red scum. Given that you are neither of them can be and they are both town.
SAD is not your buddy and is thus town.
POE Bro is your buddy

[Metal Sonic]

TD cant be trusted with that^

[TiphaineDeath]

Check out that beautiful false dichotomy from MS. He sees a way out/forward and he takes it instantly.

Can we lynch this smug little shit?

[TiphaineDeath]

I can't be trusted with WHAT? Elaborate.

[Metal Sonic]

Can we lynch this smug little shit?^

[Nachomamma8]

One less NK is a guaranteed bonus, the other scenarios you described rely on the living scum misplaying or on blind chance.

But the misplays and blind chance benefits are far and above better than the "one less NK" benefit. You keep dodging the question (I shouldn't have to ask it this many times, really), but what benefit does one less NK afford us?

GIF-Bro-Spinach. GIF maybe? In the unlikely even that this occurs I would probably end up doing full iso's on all three of those people.

and not bro who was your scum suspect 10 minutes ago?

[Nachomamma8]

SAD is town =/= strong town

SAD cannot be my buddy, meaning he's not red. And he's absolutely convinced that you're the blue.
So...

And here too... Damn some people are slow on the uptake.

i was pointing out TD's logic, but you missed that too!

[Nachomamma8]

You slipped. That simple. Pretty much nothing short of that or a night action reveal would have made me change my read on you but.... there it is.

What happens if redscum flip?

Ugh!!! A 3v3 and I gotta step in to point out the obvious??? NACHO HAS CONCEDED THAT HE SLIPPED, IS SCUM, AND IS NOW JUST CRUMBING HE IS RED. If it has to be Blue, he isn't the tree to be barking up.

well who's going over? TD or nacho?

spinach
this is what it feels like when scum buddy up to you

[TiphaineDeath]

Bro is only my scum suspect by process of elimination, I have nothing-else-on-him.

"What benefit does one less NK afford us"

One

Less

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Have I said it enough times to get it through to you yet?

[Nachomamma8]

I was working on the assumption that GIF/Spinach were red scum. Given that you are neither of them can be and they are both town.

Spinach/bro or Spinach/GIF as red?

No you weren't.

[spinachattack]

Wait, nacho is crumbing red, where. Help me I'm lost.

In the two places I quoted.

[Nachomamma8]

Have I said it enough times to get it through to you yet?

Why is that a benefit?