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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:34 am

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In post 1123, Iecerint wrote:I also really don't like the his vig claim + softclaim
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:36 am

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In post 1125, Demon wrote:christ
Well, that's hardly an apposite claim, Christ isn't even in
any
of the books.
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:22 am

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Vote Count 2.9


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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:16 pm

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In post 1100, Selkies wrote:ThAd, what is your read of Amrun?
I found her argument with ghostlin annoying, and obviously am not fond of her going after me, but despite this I think she is probably frustrating town - mainly because I'm unsure scum-amrun would be ballsy enough to go after people she knows would flip town power roles. It's not a strong read, though.
In post 1106, Amrun wrote:ABSOLUTELY. The worst thing that can happen for Scum Marangal at this point is for you to flip town. You flip town commuter, and then we go, "Well, what the fuck, how can there be that AND a doctor?" (Answer: exceedingly unlikely)

As long as you are alive, and people are still even marginally suspicious of you, that WIFOM is still alive. Her defending you is something I find pretty scummy, because I think it's far more natural for a town doctor to suspect you, as a claimed commuter, EVEN IF by some crazy turn of events you are both town.
This all makes sense. Even still I can't help having a gut feel that she is indeed town.
In post 1113, Amrun wrote:Demon is lurking, but that doesn't mean he should be lunched over people who are far scummier.
Would you say demon is one of your picks for scum? I did a quick iso of you earlier and it does seem that you have issues with a few things demon is posting.
In post 1115, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:So upon an ISO read of him, I’m for sure willing to lynch demon today. At this point, his lurking feels like an attempt to let the thad/mara fight keep him free from more scrutiny.
I think this is spot on.

Note that once again demon only appeared to defend himself...

It feels like there is quite a lot of support for a demon lynch yet the only people voting him are me and mara.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:19 pm

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Appearing to defend myself is scummy? Can you link me to games where you were town and used this to catch scum, else you can stop repeating the same line, ty.

I also lurked before the Thad/Mara thing so...fuck off anyone who's trying to get onboard with that idea.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:23 pm

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Yes, but I view Demon as low priority.
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:10 pm

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In post 1129, Demon wrote:Appearing to defend myself is scummy? Can you link me to games where you were town and used this to catch scum, else you can stop repeating the same line, ty.

I also lurked before the Thad/Mara thing so...fuck off anyone who's trying to get onboard with that idea.
Beetlejuice tell is a well known one, am fairly certain I have been in games where it has caught scum (although can't remember off the top of my head), and regardless makes sense with a scum mindset - scum would prefer to cruise under the radar if they're allowed to but would feel obligated to come out and defend themselves if attacked.

I guess another question would be why are you only posting when people are attacking you? Why aren't you contributing to the game of your own volition?
In post 1130, Amrun wrote:Yes, but I view Demon as low priority.
Would you consider a compromise? I feel that if demon flips scum mara looks really good, if he flips town I would probably be willing to vote mara tomorrow.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:17 pm

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To be honest? Only at deadline. But probably.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:19 pm

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Don't expect a claim from me today if I do get lynched.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:23 pm

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Well that's an exceedingly pro-town attitude...
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:15 pm

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We're at a conflict of reads between ThAd and Demon ATM...
In post 1131, ThAdmiral wrote:Would you consider a compromise? I feel that
if demon flips scum mara looks really good
, if
he flips town I would probably be willing to vote mara tomorrow
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Care to walk me through your logic here ThAd?

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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:04 pm

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Mara, can you spell out the Demon stuff for me?

I actually thought he was pretty town D1, but it seems like you've read him as scum all game.
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:42 pm

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Demon thinks that the major point of my case had to do with his suspicion on Matt, or rather that's the only part he's focused on

He's circumstantially Opportunistic, and he refuses because "it can't really be found in his post" even though I explained multiple times, it had to do with what others around him had to say

he was only on the defensive

Multiple times, he tried to deflect my attacks and tried to get me to move my vote

has cocky scum attitude in the way he says he isn't going to be lynched

and, along with that he just flies under the radar.

meanwhile, I have asked so many times for cases on why Demon is town yet I have yet to see one

His post also have absolute shit RE scum-hunting

I have restated these reasons for demon scum over and over again :/
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:43 pm

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oh, and how he tries to deflect Thad's case is scummy as all fuck

and is similar to what he's been doing to me all game
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:54 pm

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I'm thinking Mara might be town for consistently believing such rubbish.
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:58 pm

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I don't even know. This is another one of those "too dumb for scum" things so I'll let my vote sit for a deadline but I'm looking at Iecerint and GCBC.
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:21 am

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Hi demon

fery and I are not agreeing on GCBC

Talk to us
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:33 am

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I was town reading Mara 'cause she awkwardly claimed her role in Gears of War mafia much like she did here.
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:55 am

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In post 1142, Nero Cain wrote:I was town reading Mara 'cause she awkwardly claimed her role in Gears of War mafia much like she did here.
Can you expand on this?
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:24 am

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In post 1141, Selkies wrote:Hi demon

fery and I are not agreeing on GCBC

Talk to us
Hey demon less than 2 days left to nightfall. Any time now would be good.

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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:50 am

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I'm town, you're town, and I have Iecerint as a choice if that also is where you want to go.
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:16 am

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In post 1145, Demon wrote:We're leaning town on Iecerint. Orcinus has a stronger scum read on GCBC than I do. Mostly I just feel like they aren't scumhunting as hard as I believe BC is capable of.

We'll vote ThAd if it comes to that or No Lynch. Orcinus is not as unhappy with that option as I am.

I'm getting a little worried that Nero seems not to be that stuck into the game day 2. He's mostly pushed lynches that aren't likely to go through today (amrun and us/Selkies).

Though I think his meta reasons for reading the fferyllt half of Selkies as scummy make sense from a town-Nero perspective. I play differently depending on my hydra partner, their game style and their availability to synch up. So I dunno, he's still essentially sidelining his vote.
We're leaning town on Iecerint. Orcinus has a stronger scum read on GCBC than I do. Mostly I just feel like they aren't scumhunting as hard as I believe BC is capable of.

We'll vote ThAd if it comes to that or No Lynch. Orcinus is not as unhappy with that option as I am.

I'm getting a little worried that Nero seems not to be that stuck into the game day 2. He's mostly pushed lynches that aren't likely to go through today (amrun and us/Selkies).

Though I think his meta reasons for reading the fferyllt half of Selkies as scummy make sense from a town-Nero perspective. I play differently depending on my hydra partner, their game style and their availability to synch up. So I dunno, he's still essentially sidelining his vote.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:21 am

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In post 1137, Ms Marangal wrote:He was only on the defensive
The thing is, I think he was actually kind of aggressive at times D1, albeit never in a way that was very convincing to others (e.g., voting players rapidly, following-up on his votes at times).

But I do think it's changed today; now his behavior is reactionary.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:24 am

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I read Thads play as pretty town this day..and I've nothing'd Nero's play the whole game.

Totally forgot about Beli and swords though..so much to catch up on.
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:38 am

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In post 1148, Demon wrote:I read Thads play as pretty town this day..and I've nothing'd Nero's play the whole game.

Totally forgot about Beli and swords though..so much to catch up on.
My read on ThAd is mixed. He comes off town sometimes.

I'm feeling pretty good about swords atm, though I had a back and forth moment. Won't be interested in voting him today. Or in voting Beli to a lesser extent.

It's kinda freaking me out that there apparently are so many PRs.
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