Newbie 1387 - Game Over

[waynegg]

He could also be trying to get it to L-1 so his scumbuddy can hammer and save his skin for a day.

@starttransmission

You said you work in the restaurant industry. My son is a chef so I understand the hours you work. However, you also said that Monday was your Saturday, that you would get up to speed then, and to expect a couple of posts from you daily. It's Wednesday and you haven't done anything...

[TheIrishPope]

We never know if we don't try, SuperMafiaMan. This game is all about risks. Join me.

[Voodoo Lady]

VL, well, yeah, I want him to post more and not lurk this thread

Didn't I already explain this in 64?

Why vote for someone who's inactive? Like, seriously-- what's your motivation here? Miszu is not suddenly going to wake up in the middle of the night and make a post here just because you voted for him.

Replace Miszu with MP5 here... voting for a lurker is not going to make them post more.

MP5 has been online as of late, so I'm going to

request a prod

.

[TheIrishPope]

Hard to tell, since your posts are huge walls

[waynegg]

Reading back over the game thus far and Pope has an associative tell. His lynch, if he flips scum, will out the other scum as well.

[TheIrishPope]

lol
You guys won't lynch me

[SuperMafiaMan]

We never know if we don't try, SuperMafiaMan. This game is all about risks. Join me.

I'm just going to have to simply say no on this offer. You started TIPping me off as odd recently.

Because I'm here to play Mafia, not saying what kind of puppy I am
Now unvote me

This demand for an unvote is very suspicious. At the time it was just one vote from wayne. Why did you turn aggressive towards a single vote when everyone else seems too timid to follow in wayne's footsteps or too distracted in pursuing MP5?

And then there is your very odd dodging of wayne's very simple question. In what way would it benefit you to dodge a silly question if you are town? If anything it brings in more communication and provides a nice bit of entertainment for everyone.

And then of course there is this:

Hate to admit this, but wayne is Town
He's too dumb to be scum
And I know when people fake dumbness
I won a fucking game thanks to that
So yeah, wayne is Town
So let's vote MP5 and put him at L-1
VOTE: MP5

It also seems very suspicious that you would want to hop on the nearest wagon and bring someone to L-1. Seems to me like you are trying to deflect the vote pressure off of you again like you did when you asked for wayne to unvote, but this time in an attempt to harm town more by either forcing a PR roleclaim so you know who to hit Night 1 or forcing him to claim Vanilla Townie (which

w

could be the truth, but we as town have no way of telling resulting in a mislynch and therefore a lost day and an increased chance of hitting a PR night 1.

Another thing we must consider is that TIP might be distancing himself from his scum buddy in asking for this L-1. I find this highly unlikely but still possible.

[TheIrishPope]

TIPping you off. Love it.
He still has no reasons for voting me. It's a silly vote. It's outright silly to vote me, TIP.
Answer me this: in what way would it benefit Town to answer that? It won't, so yeah
L-1 =/= Lynch, again, SMM
I'm actually helping town because it would either give us a confirmed Townie or scum so we can hammer

[MP5]

Awesome this is what you play Mafia for, to put your scum hunting skills to the test.

Sorry this will amount to little more than a prod dodge, but I'm phone posting from work - more tonight when I'm home.

Should just quickly ruin through correct hammering procedure also -

If you think I'm scum and wish to hammer -

state your intention

to do so first, and ask for a role claim. Give me time to a) claim, and b) post my latest/final thoughts, and then decide how to take it from there.

We've got a mountain of time left before deadline and there's a fair bit for me personally and the rest of us to get through, so I will be taking a closer look at TIP later.

[waynegg]

^ but if someone writes out a long-ish, washy washy bullshit post about how they will claim later after they xyz, hammer their ass, they're stalling and probably scum.

[SuperMafiaMan]

TIPping you off. Love it.
He still has no reasons for voting me. It's a silly vote. It's outright silly to vote me, TIP.
Answer me this: in what way would it benefit Town to answer that? It won't, so yeah
L-1 =/= Lynch, again, SMM
I'm actually helping town because it would either give us a confirmed Townie or scum so we can hammer

I'm pretty sure wayne has provided quite enough justification for his vote. Although it was a RVS vote at first it has evolved beyond that. I'm sure wayne should be able to defend this, but it's not really my battle.

Answer me this instead TIP: In what way would answering wayne's question

hurt

town?

I have to concede that you are right on your last two points, but I never outright said that both terms were one and the same, I'm sure I understand the difference. One must admit that for Day 1, getting a Role Claim out of someone who has only been inactive and has voted inactives seems just rather silly to me when we could instead go for some of the more scummy looking people.

If someone wants to do L-1 and get a Role Claim out of MP5, go ahead. I now don't see how it could do all that much harm, if we lose a PR on Night 1 we can look at TIP's motivations for calling for the L-1 afterwards and see where we can go from there.

[MP5]

Of course, claim comes first, so it goes intent -> claim, then the onus is on me as the claimer to get any thoughts out, and the hammerer to follow through or not.

I an asking for more time to be able to sit down at my computer and write out a decently length-ish post, if anyone cares to state intent I'll claim first thing, and the rest of the town can decide from there whether the intent was premature and/or scum motivated, and right this minute I would suggest so.

[TheIrishPope]

SMM, it hurts Town because SOMEONE *cough* wayne *cough* is diverting us from playing the fucking game

[spinachattack]

Hate to admit this, but wayne is Town

He's too dumb to be scum
And I know when people fake dumbness
I won a fucking game thanks to that
So yeah, wayne is Town
So let's vote MP5 and put him at L-1
VOTE: MP5

SMM, it hurts Town because SOMEONE *cough* wayne *cough* is diverting us from playing the fucking game

Town have no reason to divert. We have 7, you have 2. I have no problem dying to prove you're scum as a 2 for 1 trade off is still a decisive town victory. But, since now out of nowhere you're inferring I'm scum, do explain.

[spinachattack]

Running a gambit to coax someone into claiming a cute fuzzy kitten IS PLAYING THE GAME to my win condition you dolt.

[waynegg]

Hate to admit this, but wayne is Town

He's too dumb to be scum
And I know when people fake dumbness
I won a fucking game thanks to that
So yeah, wayne is Town
So let's vote MP5 and put him at L-1
VOTE: MP5

SMM, it hurts Town because SOMEONE *cough* wayne *cough* is diverting us from playing the fucking game

Town have no reason to divert. We have 7, you have 2. I have no problem dying to prove you're scum as a 2 for 1 trade off is still a decisive town victory. But, since now out of nowhere you're inferring I'm scum, do explain.

Frick

[waynegg]

And

[waynegg]

Running a gambit to coax someone into claiming a cute fuzzy kitten IS PLAYING THE GAME to my win condition you dolt.

Frack!

[TheIrishPope]

They have no reason, but they do it subconsciously. Newbie mentality.
And wait are you even in this game who are you

[waynegg]

Yes, I am. That's my hydra which I didn't realize I was still logged in as. Hence quoting so it can be found in my ISO.

[Voodoo Lady]

MP5, could you answer the questions I asked you in post 64? And sooner rather than later, preferably.

They have no reason, but they do it subconsciously. Newbie mentality.

...huh?

[Rena]

Vote Count 1.4

MP5

(L-2)

: Voodoo Lady, Starstorm, The Irish Pope
The Irish Pope

(L-3)

: Waynegg, SuperMafiaMan
Frequency

(L-4)

: MP5
SuperMafiaMan

(L-4)

: Startransmission

Not voting:

Frequency, Miszu

To Lynch:

5/9

Deadline:

Saturday 29th June, 9pm BST

V/LA:

None

Prodded: Starstorm, Frequency, Miszu and Startransmission

None

Notes:

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[TheIrishPope]

Dem prods
UNVOTE: MP5
Unvoting because I lost interest in this wagon
VL, why the huh?

[Voodoo Lady]

Dem prods
UNVOTE: MP5
Unvoting because I lost interest in this wagon
VL, why the huh?

Because I have no idea what you're trying to get at here. Diversion is an active thing.

[TheIrishPope]

But there's a difference between diverting Town on purpose, as experienced scum would do, and diverting Town without wanting to, such as inexperienced town