NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

ISO · Post Post #4075 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:12 am

I'm perfectly aware that Rena is not getting lynched today. She could be redscum, too, but my case is mostly associative.

I guess it's possible that we're just dealing with an SK and Mastin is trolling us, but I doubt it. And the SK theory is probably assuming ThAd is said SK, and he just isn't.

Bacde · Post Post #4076 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:17 am

In post 4073, Cephrir wrote:I think it's very possible.

She could also be lying, though the no result on Bacde would be incredibly ballsy.

Dude I was so disappointed by the idea of no one visiting me

;_;

ISO · Post Post #4077 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:49 am

At the time she claimed, though it wasn't entirely clear to me whether she was saying no one visited on those nights. Possible hedging.

mastin2 · Post Post #4078 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:08 am

Fun fact: The last time there was a crash that resulted in data loss, I was

also

modding a game. Is this a sign from above, that I should never mod again? Heck no! It's merely a sign of how awesome my games are; they're so volatile, the site crashes trying to handle them!

Ninety-Second Votecount

:

(Twenty-Fifth Votecount of Day Three,

AKA, the "Mastin's games are clearly too good for this site to comprehend!" votecount.

)

Amethyst Kitty - 3 (Kublai Khan, Cephrir, ffullisade)

Nachomamma8 - 3 (Nero Cain, Bacde, ThAdmiral)

Nero Cain - 3 (Nachomamma8, Bulbazak, CrashTextDummie)
Seanald - 3 (Desperado, PeregrineV, ArcAngel9)
ThAdmiral - 2 (Human Destroyer, Slandaar)
PeregrineV - 1 (penguin_alien)
Bacde - 1 (Rena)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)

Not Voting - 1 (Seanald)

With

18

alive, it's

10

to lynch.

Day Three's deadline is Friday, July 5th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-07-05 12:30:00).

Bulbazak is V/LA over weekends indefinitely.
ArcAngel9 is V/LA until Wednesday, Jun 19th.
mastin2, the moderator, is V/LA for...a while.

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 163, post 4055.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History D3

Spoiler: Votecount History D3

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #4079 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:35 am

In post 4022, PeregrineV wrote:Because I was looking for something a little more comprehensive, like

I'm not that familiar with Cephrir's meta.

In post 4027, ffullisade wrote:see, I don't think mara is acting at all like she did in polygamy. she seems too calm, almost like she is being coached. I see the same behaviour in popcorn either other than she was calmer in that game to a degree, she just didn't know what to say when wisdom went after her and I was not around to help. I have been negging on her scum game hard <---- cos I want her to improve her game. she and mala will understand this and I think so will you.

I see what you mean; I have my little flags here and there, but I'm not really sure which way I want to move with it, you know? I felt Mara was town in polygamy and I felt she was scum in popcorn although in both cases I allowed bigger things to override that gut read. So I'm trying to recalibrate or whatever the hell you people call it. It doesn't really feel she's being coached, though? Mala scum is easier for me to pick out than Mara scum (usually) since Mala's scum game is better developed and I know what to expect from it. The big posts don't seem like Mala scum, but I'll go back through them later to see if anything better comes up.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4080 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:10 am

They don't feel like Mala scum posts because they

aren't

Mala scum posts.

Bulbazak · Post Post #4081 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:41 am

In post 4035, ffullisade wrote:I think you are red scum and there is someone on your team who is coaching you

Are you suggesting that the red scum team has day talk?

I actually like Desperado's case. It seemed to come out of nowhere, though. Might I ask what prompted it?

In post 4051, Amethyst Kitty wrote: These are the tells you keep brining up against us:

•being calm
•aTe

How do those 2 work together to justify a scum case anyway?

In post 4059, Seanald wrote:UNVOTE: AK

the vote wasn't personal AK, i just have a self-made zero tolerance rule for people freaking out, its just unnecessary, but you've explained your self well and back in mah town reads.

Desp I understand your case on me, but I honestly thinking your reaching for connections, you could probably go through the whole player list and do exactly what you did on me to everyone else, or even make the arguement that those without any interactions with bluescum what so ever are most likely blue scum, its all just not very concrete.

I was also surprised to see this case just randomly pop up from you, after you were saying I was likely town. maybe saying that spurred you to Iso me and take a second look which I can see, but considering your my neighbor I'd rather us work together on things,

so what questions do you want answered from me? or how can we work this out together because your a pretty concrete town read for me and I don't want to see the extra communication we get go to waste, even though we've probably been wasting it up to this point lol.

Town pacification

and

buddying.

In post 4065, ThAdmiral wrote: killing at night:
crashtextdummy

Why?

In post 4073, Cephrir wrote:I think it's very possible.

She could also be lying, though the no result on Bacde would be incredibly ballsy.

Seeing as how there was a ninja on the blue team, there is no way that Rena is blue scum. Get off of your confirmation bias and look somewhere else.

In post 4075, Cephrir wrote:And the SK theory is probably assuming ThAd is said SK, and he just isn't.

Why not?

Unvote

Vote Seanald

Desperado · Post Post #4082 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:54 am

In post 4081, Bulbazak wrote:I actually like Desperado's case. It seemed to come out of nowhere, though. Might I ask what prompted it?

AK mentioned something (might have gotten lost) about how the composition of today's major wagons (Rena, Thad, Nero, themselves) was troubling for them, so I compared all four wagons at their peak and Seanald showed up (late) on both Rena and AK, for extremely weak (or nonexistent) reasons, as I said.

Given my townread on him before I felt like I should ISO him for possible connections, hence the case.

ISO · Post Post #4083 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:02 am

If Thad is an SK he isn't a good one. The theory is to balance your posts somewhere between lynchable and nightkillable, but Thad just hasn't made any effort to be townie enough. I could see maybe a deliberate lurking strategy, but his "I don't give a fuck" responses and his insistence that he's going to kill CTD are just not SK material.

I suppose I might be tunneling at this point. I'll try to drop that for the time being.

I like the Seanald wagon. I'm tired of him doing nothing but hopping between myself and the biggest wagon. And I know I can hardly be objective in the matter but his suspicion of me as well as dat vote on AK were pretty terrible. AK are looking a bit better since they stopped flailing so hard anyway, and besides I have three solid townreads on this wagon.

Unvote, Vote: Seanald

Rena · Post Post #4084 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:51 pm

I'm not feeling an AK scum. It seems too easy.

I could easily see Seanald as scum ie lurking through most of the days to the extent I forget he's actually playing this game, coming in to bandwagon that sort of thing.

ISO · Post Post #4085 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:34 pm

How was AK too easy? I don't see that at all.

mastin2 · Post Post #4086 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:13 pm

So I was thinking, "Why are there so few posts in my game? I'd expect there to be a new page or two?", and then I realized, I forgot to send the massprod earlier.

Sending now, so expect a rise in activity.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #4087 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:38 pm

In post 4081, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 4065, ThAdmiral wrote: killing at night:
crashtextdummy
Why?

Honestly I'm leery that everyone thinks he is town (even though I used to). Looking back I don't see much to imply he's as towny as everyone says he is.

--~~--

Seanald wagon seems good enough for me.

vote: seanald

Slandaar · Post Post #4088 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:02 am

This gameday needs to end

VOTE: Sean

Human Destroyer · Post Post #4089 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:07 am

In post 4078, mastin2 wrote:Fun fact: The last time there was a crash that resulted in data loss, I was also modding a game. Is this a sign from above, that I should never mod again? Heck no! It's merely a sign of how awesome my games are; they're so volatile, the site crashes trying to handle them!

I love you sometimes.

<<< Only

some

times?

>>>

Not sure I'm particularly interested in the Seanald wagon, but I'll freely admit I haven't read due to lack of time.

Someone want to explain/quote a post explaining?

ISO · Post Post #4090 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:31 am

Desperado posted a case a few pages ago.

Alternatively ISO Seanald yourself, it's not like he has a lot of posts.

penguin_alien · Post Post #4091 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:52 am

I suppose of the options to lynch among the neighbors, I'd rather lynch one whose own co-neighbor finds him scummy, although the PeregrineV-ThAdmiral mutual admiration society still makes me leery.

And I don't see how Seanald voting someone for something he finds annoying rather than scummy is town-motivated.

UNVOTE: PeregrineV
VOTE: Seanald

Human Destroyer · Post Post #4092 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:57 am

In post 4090, Cephrir wrote:Desperado posted a case a few pages ago.

Alternatively ISO Seanald yourself, it's not like he has a lot of posts.

Read the case, considering the vote.

In post 4091, penguin_alien wrote:I suppose of the options to lynch among the neighbors, I'd rather lynch one whose own co-neighbor finds him scummy, although the PeregrineV-ThAdmiral mutual admiration society still makes me leery.

And I don't see how Seanald voting someone for something he finds annoying rather than scummy is town-motivated.

UNVOTE: PeregrineV
VOTE: Seanald

Why is it scum-motivated though?

Desperado · Post Post #4093 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:02 am

That's L-2

<<< And that's a double-post I had to delete. >>>

ISO · Post Post #4094 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:03 am

I think that could be something scum might do to look town (unafraid of looking anti-town) but I have trouble imagining town caring little enough to vote for such a dumb reason when they are supposedly actually suspicious of someone else. Plus, why does Seanald care if someone is annoying when he barely seems to be reading the thread?

That's WIFOM, but still, it's an idea.

penguin_alien · Post Post #4095 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:15 am

In post 4092, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 4091, penguin_alien wrote:I suppose of the options to lynch among the neighbors, I'd rather lynch one whose own co-neighbor finds him scummy, although the PeregrineV-ThAdmiral mutual admiration society still makes me leery.

And I don't see how Seanald voting someone for something he finds annoying rather than scummy is town-motivated.

UNVOTE: PeregrineV
VOTE: Seanald
Why is it scum-motivated though?

Easy reason to help push a wagon while being able to backtrack later under the guise of having wanted to pressure AK into changing their posting behavior rather than lynching. Which is pretty much what happened.

ffullisade · Post Post #4096 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:10 am

Molllie and I have a few pages to catch up on.

We'll think about the case desperado built on Seanald. Still have significant concerns about AK.

- f

CrashTextDummie · Post Post #4097 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:42 am

In post 4087, ThAdmiral wrote:
In post 4081, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 4065, ThAdmiral wrote: killing at night:
crashtextdummy
Why?
Honestly I'm leery that everyone thinks he is town (even though I used to). Looking back I don't see much to imply he's as towny as everyone says he is.

And here I thought it was just because I dared question your claim.

You haven't given any reason to think I'm actually scummy so there's nothing for me to address except for the post you interpreted as me "putting my hand up to die". It should be beyond obvious that I'm not scum with either one of Slandaar or Nacho, the two people you said you were going to shoot between, giving me every incentive to leave you alone for today if I was scum. If you want to see a legitimately scummy reaction to your claim, look no further than Nero Cain's (who happens to be absent from your list of reads).

You obviously aren't interested in engaging me in an argument, so I guess that's that.

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I'd like to be given a day or two to post my full thoughts on the game before we go to night.

Bacde · Post Post #4098 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:23 am

Can't say that I disagree w/ the Seanald wagon

but he was like, the most interesting scum in this game, honestly I would have preferred to lynch his buddies first

ISO · Post Post #4099 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:30 am

I thought the theory was that we already did? Are you saying you don't think he's blue? I don't necessarily disagree, I could see either way, but is that what you're saying?