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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:20 pm

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In post 96, Alabaska J wrote:
In post 85, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote: VOTE: Stryker
srs vote.
you do realize how bad this looks right? and where has stryker "actively attempted to shut down discussion"? are you talking about the number argument flip? i would hardly say that qualifies. this looks like lazy scum/bad town play right here, and i'm leaning towards the former. your pseudo-lurking doesn't help you much.

fos: YTWC
Saying that there is no point in discussing the biggest topic of discussion at the time looks like an attempt to shut down discussion to me. And you're already accusing me of lurking two days in? dis gon b gud.

Please, spoon feed it to me. How bad does it look?
In post 94, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote: VOTE: Belisarius leaving an RVS on a town?
...You know PPP's town? Or you have a townread on PPP, so a vote for him is scummy?
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:51 pm

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In post 100, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:
In post 96, Alabaska J wrote:
In post 85, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote: VOTE: Stryker
srs vote.
you do realize how bad this looks right? and where has stryker "actively attempted to shut down discussion"? are you talking about the number argument flip? i would hardly say that qualifies. this looks like lazy scum/bad town play right here, and i'm leaning towards the former. your pseudo-lurking doesn't help you much.

fos: YTWC
Saying that there is no point in discussing the biggest topic of discussion at the time looks like an attempt to shut down discussion to me. And you're already accusing me of lurking two days in? dis gon b gud.
pseudo-lurking. you've posted, but i don't see much content. not necessarily a scumtell, but with your opportunistic hop on stryker because of someone else's case basically makes you look like scum flyer under the radar to me. not enough to warrant a vote, but enough for an FoS for sure. and i saw that as an attempt to shift discussion elsewhere from something that was a pet theory but not immediately relevant. perhaps we have strikingly different views about the early importance of Siveure DtTrikyp's theory on day 1. care to enlighten me on how important it is that no one should try and redirect attention elsewhere?
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:02 pm

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In post 96, Alabaska J wrote:
your tone sounded very final to me, as if you were disregarding the possibility. my point is that your theory is so vague and not likely to help until later that i don't see why you make such a big deal about dismissing the doubling up thing in the first place. i don't think it is relevant, while you seem to imply:
In post 91, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Also, if you wait for certainty you get nothing done because even a cop with a guilty could be scum fakeclaiming. You have to go with the most likely scenario, which is that scum didn't double up.
that we should
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it. that seems a bit severe. you seem to think that i am for using the theory to scumhunt, which is incorrect. i am saying it could be interesting but something we shouldn't use as a case right now. you say we should actively not think about it, which i find puzzling. do you see the difference here?
You say you considered the drafting or something somewhere. W/E.

And we shouldn't think on it if our thoughts are "OMG WIFOM WE CAN'T KNOW ANYTHING," when it's fairly clear that stuff works.
In post 91, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:
In post 54, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:And how the hell is my pick of over 9000 relevant? I could have picked TWO and I wouldn't be implicating myself.
it is relevant because you are accusing scum of choosing lower numbers since you think they can afford to take the risk while you yourself don't choose a lower number - in fact you choose the highest number. i'm not saying it is a smoking gun by ANY means, but it is certainly relevant because you are conveniently not in a position to be suspected by your own theory.

you seem pretty defensive here, so i'm gonna go with my gut and
VOTE: Siveure DtTrikyp
Can't argue with defensive. W/E. This SUCKS. So much. Euck.
no you can't argue with defensive, but you could try and defend yourself in a non-scummy way. it is not that you are defensive, but the context around your defensiveness that warrants my vote. also, since this is my first really serious vote of the day, there is, to be frank, less to go on than, say, a vote on day 3. you going straight for the OMGUS here really reinforces my view. you act as though you are in danger of being lynched already, for pete's sake![/quote]

What context? I assume you don't mean it being the first vote on me when I've gone kinda aggressively pushing some stuff before? What omgus? I can't even find anything that could be omgus. And the stuff that sucks is me playing very good (for me) early on and still getting suspected which I'm kinda tired of. Or maybe I just whine about how much I get suspected without actually being suspected that much. W/E.

I get lynched a lot, so I always panic when someone who seems to know what they're doing (which is basically everyone who can make a case) comes up with a case on me. It's a sivtell.

Random other responses below.

I don't like the fos on YTWC - you're not seeing the same stuff that we're seeing on stryker, which is kinda weird.

I suck at hard data and logic.
out of curiosity, what numbers did you pick the other times?
My previous numbers were 3 (following my scumbuddies recommendation of a 1-2-3 pick) and 9 (thinking the max was 10 and thus going high.)

PEdit: Where was stryker trying to direct the conversation TO?
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:20 pm

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In post 100, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:You know PPP's town? Or you have a townread on PPP, so a vote for him is scummy?
That's a hard misrep -- he's voting me because
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:32 pm

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I'm not sure what's gone on there, but I think it's more a case of hasty reading by TMTOL.

But why are you calling it a "hard misrep", Beli? That line of questioning was directed
at
TMTOL, not you. And neither TMTOL or YTWC appear to have any agenda towards misrepping you.

Also, is that the only aspect of the game you feel is worth commenting on?
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:35 pm

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In post 102, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote: You say you considered the drafting or something somewhere. W/E.

And we shouldn't think on it if our thoughts are "OMG WIFOM WE CAN'T KNOW ANYTHING," when it's fairly clear that stuff works.
clarification? i'm having trouble figuring out what you mean here.
In post 102, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:What context? I assume you don't mean it being the first vote on me when I've gone kinda aggressively pushing some stuff before? What omgus? I can't even find anything that could be omgus. And the stuff that sucks is me playing very good (for me) early on and still getting suspected which I'm kinda tired of. Or maybe I just whine about how much I get suspected without actually being suspected that much. W/E.

I get lynched a lot, so I always panic when someone who seems to know what they're doing (which is basically everyone who can make a case) comes up with a case on me. It's a sivtell.
context as it being early and, yes, the first vote on you. i don't see how you can respond aggressively to votes before the first vote though...? so i am not seeing that argument (or maybe am misreading you). i interpret your "this sucks. Euck." as referring to my case on you. if you meant the situation however, it wouldn't be OMGUS necessarily. clarify this please.
In post 102, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Random other responses below.

I don't like the fos on YTWC - you're not seeing the same stuff that we're seeing on stryker, which is kinda weird.
my fos is based on his timing and overall lack of content, not the fact that he thinks stryker is scummy. again, this is about context.
In post 102, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:PEdit: Where was stryker trying to direct the conversation TO?
i don't think he has a specific definition, but his post still reads more like someone who doesn't see the point to the speculation as opposed to someone who wants to bury it because he is afraid it will implicate him/his scumbuddies. also i can't for the life of me see you guys right now as both being scum, so there's that as well (although that is lesser).
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:36 pm

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In post 103, Belisarius wrote:
In post 100, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:You know PPP's town? Or you have a townread on PPP, so a vote for him is scummy?
That's a hard misrep -- he's voting me because
I
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i didn't read it as that either
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:37 pm

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In post 104, pieceofpecanpie wrote:But why are you calling it a "hard misrep", Beli? That line of questioning was directed
at
TMTOL, not you. And neither TMTOL or YTWC appear to have any agenda towards misrepping you.
It's a hard misrep of TMTOL, not of me.[/quote]
Also, is that the only aspect of the game you feel is worth commenting on?
So far, yes.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:42 pm

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Then why do what you did in your #90?

If it's not suggesting that you have something of a case or read on any other player, why even remove your RVS?

Is that merely to avoid drawing attention or suspicion to yourself? Because making a move like that, yet not being involved in the game beyond it is very conspicuous.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:52 pm

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In post 99, pieceofpecanpie wrote:
In post 89, Mutleyddmc wrote:I read your other games too ;)
And...?

Oh ..... I thought you were flirting with me
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:17 pm

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So you lied?

Are you planning to keep this up all game?
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:24 pm

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No I flirted.

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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:24 pm

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In post 64, Cade wrote:VOTE: Stryker

I don't like the fence sitting. Appears to like the RVS than relevant discussions but doesn't want to get too involved in it either.

Oh and he is scum

VOTE: Cade
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:44 pm

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In post 68, Alabaska J wrote:this looks REALLY opportunistic. fos: cade
In post 96, Alabaska J wrote:
you do realize how bad this looks right?
and where has stryker "actively attempted to shut down discussion"? are you talking about the number argument flip? i would hardly say that qualifies. this looks like lazy scum/bad town play right here, and i'm leaning towards the former. your pseudo-lurking doesn't help you much.
I noticed this. While I agree that Cade's vote looks scummy (complaining about a lack of content/involvement while Cade himself hasn't contributed anything, go figure ...) I don't think for a moment that YTMC's vote is opportunistic or scummy.
PPP has a good case on Stryker. I don't think anyone could have another case on Stryker, PPP covered everything possible and that shows the lack of Stryker's posts. Posting like that is either stupid or scummy, or maybe both.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:50 am

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In post 105, Alabaska J wrote:context as it being early and, yes, the first vote on you. i don't see how you can respond aggressively to votes before the first vote though...? so i am not seeing that argument (or maybe am misreading you). i interpret your "this sucks. Euck." as referring to my case on you. if you meant the situation however, it wouldn't be OMGUS necessarily. clarify this please.
Huh?

I'm asking where is the OMGUS and you're asking ME to clarify? No. This is clear. You first.

The first is not referring to votes.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:40 am

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Vote Count 1.5
Cade
: Mutleyddmc (L-7)
Siveure DtTrikyp
: Alabaska J (L-7)
Stryker
:Siveure DtTrikyp, pieceofpecanpie, Cade, Your Troubles Will Cease (L-4)
TMTOLBTWNTOF
: Sakura Hana (L-7)
Your Troubles Will Cease
: Deckard (L-7)


Not Voting (6): Belisarius, Smudger, Stryker, TMTOLBTWNTOF, Xdaamno, Crimml
With 14 alive, it's 8 to lynch.


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Note: I did not count the vote in this post because it was not on its own line. Please remember, all votes and unvotes should be on their own line, separate from any commentary!
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:20 am

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Early doors reads:

Stryker: yeah, already said.

Belisarius: Doesn't read like townBeli to me, seems too passive. (yes I have meta on this, will share if anyone wants it.)

TMT: Misreads all round on both parts, what I thought was foreknowledge was actually me being hasty. Mildly town.

Crimml: *goes to catch up* *never catches up*

Mutley: anti-town. Not scum, but anti-town.

Siv seems town.

Everyone else is null.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:47 am

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How can you say I am anti-town?
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:58 am

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How can you say you're not?
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:07 am

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Cos I want the town to win
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:11 am

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But you're doing fuck all to help it, insofar as I can see.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:13 am

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That's what you think
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:52 am

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Does anyone have any way of telling mutley's alignment? I assume he's always like this but does he ever change at all?
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:41 am

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No idea, i've seen a town game of his only, but he was like this and i'm not sure how he is when he's scum.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:44 am

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It doesn't even matter, ignore as much as possible for Day 1 at the very least.
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