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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:35 pm

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Orc/selk what 2 scum games did I replace out of?
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:45 pm

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You know what? Fuck waiting for demon.

I'm Perrin Aybara. My golden eyes (that's the ability name) allows me to have wolves follow a player and tell me who if anyone at all, visited them. The issue I am having is this:

I targeted Selkies last night. I got back a note from the mod saying my wolves were unable to locate selkies. I cleared it up with the mod, and had I been re-directed, I would have been told that my wolves could not find "new target name here" or "my wolves say X Y Z visit new target name here"

The only reason I could have seen for that was that Selkies dream walked last night. But Selkies just said they did not. Therefore, selkies is a liar.
VOTE: SELKIES
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:51 pm

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what were your other results?
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:56 pm

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Amrun night one, nobody visited Amrun on night one.

The results were worded entirely differently than the results night two, hence why I'm so sure it wasn't simply a case of nobody visiting selkies.
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:08 pm

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In post 1276, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:You know what? Fuck waiting for demon.

I'm Perrin Aybara. My golden eyes (that's the ability name) allows me to have wolves follow a player and tell me who if anyone at all, visited them. The issue I am having is this:

I targeted Selkies last night. I got back a note from the mod saying my wolves were unable to locate selkies. I cleared it up with the mod, and had I been re-directed, I would have been told that my wolves could not find "new target name here" or "my wolves say X Y Z visit new target name here"

The only reason I could have seen for that was that Selkies dream walked last night. But Selkies just said they did not. Therefore, selkies is a liar.
VOTE: SELKIES
That makes no sense.

We are able to dreamwalk, but we haven't done it at all in this game so far because we can't do anything else when we dreamwalk. Last night we had to choose between dreamwalk, our other ability, and using the redirector device we were given on night 1.

I'll say who we used it on, though I'd like to hear from that player beforehand.
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:10 pm

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And why do you want to hear from me?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:10 pm

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Also, I'm not saying who gave us the device, though the breadcrumb was pretty obvious. I am hoping it wasn't a one-time thing and they were able to pass out another gift to someone on night 2.
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:11 pm

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In post 1280, Nero Cain wrote:And why do you want to hear from me?
We didn't use it on you.
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:13 pm

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In post 1275, Nero Cain wrote:Orc/selk what 2 scum games did I replace out of?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:16 pm

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You'll have to wait for orcinus on that one. He didn't link me to games where you replaced out.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:31 pm

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I would actually rather wait for orcinus before role claiming, but given GCBC's results we'll need to anyway.

Our name is gwene al'Vere,

We are a Town Channeler, Dreamer and Dreamwalker.

The dreamer part is prophetic dreams, and is investigative. We can choose a player to dream about and we'll get back one random ability the player has. The example given in our role pm was a vigilante doctor. We'd get back either "killing" or "protecting" with 50% chance of either. We would not get back anything alignment oriented.

Night 1 we chose to dream about ThAd. We got back that we tried to dream, but couldn't, i.e., no result. When he role claimed, we knew that the bit about being some sort of commuter was probably accurate. It's why I was pretty reluctant about lynching him, though that confirmation wasn't a guarantee that he was town.

Night 2 we decided to use the redirect. We planned to do both that and dream, but found out that we couldn't do both in the same night when we sent in our actions.

So, either GCBC is lying, or we were the target of some other action that took precedence.

I don't think BC would have initiated all those meta dives with me late day 1 as some sort of set up.
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:27 pm

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go demotivated+flippant tone
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go demotivated
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go demotivated despite attempts to show otherwise
That's my point, TAM. You've seen my scumplay (and so has Monkey) and both of you know that I'm not being a lurky coward this game. I'll pull up your quotes here in a bit.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go contentless
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go distanced from game
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go shit play.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go flaked out
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go look at that insane dedication on red's side
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go flippancy in tone

i can't find that second replace out and i'm thinking that i misread it as a hydra

whatever
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:32 pm

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nero's scumplay has definitely been getting better but he's still transparent as fuck

not a very good scum player

re: replace out, sure okay we only have one data point but look at it. In the town game you played at the same time, you were night killed on night 1

so
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:38 pm

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In post 1276, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:You know what? Fuck waiting for demon.

I'm Perrin Aybara. My golden eyes (that's the ability name) allows me to have wolves follow a player and tell me who if anyone at all, visited them. The issue I am having is this:

I targeted Selkies last night. I got back a note from the mod saying my wolves were unable to locate selkies. I cleared it up with the mod, and had I been re-directed, I would have been told that my wolves could not find "new target name here" or "my wolves say X Y Z visit new target name here"

The only reason I could have seen for that was that Selkies dream walked last night. But Selkies just said they did not. Therefore, selkies is a liar.
VOTE: SELKIES
fery thinks you were roleblocked

i think you are scum

re how i found the wwe game--it was nominated for a scummy

so you can get your fucking act together now

VOTE: demon

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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:44 pm

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In post 1272, Ms Marangal wrote:I love that game, The Sugar Cain hydra was a fun one.

also, I protected Amrun last night so I think Scum have a Strong-man or something to bypass my protection.

Pedit: Nero...
no one has pushed for your lynch yet

despite a claimed doctor being alive at day 3

if scum were leaving you alive to be mislynched they would've pushed for you by now

also this is scum covering up for a tracker/watcher

VOTE: marangal
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:34 pm

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2 votes in 2 posts, 6 minutes apart -- both from Orci by the posting style. Wherefore?

Mara's protection claim certainly doesn't do anything to diminish the way her claimed role and ThAd's don't jive, though.

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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:58 pm

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i had a brainwave
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:39 pm

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Orc, using the WWE game and not realizing that it was not this GCBC is still dumb as fuck.

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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:02 pm

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...

we are in mylo guys, if I get lynched we lose the game

I'm pretty sure that Nero and Beli both are town, though I'm less certain of my read on Selkies now though if my read on them is wrong then it's likely that my read on Demon could be wrong.

It also means that scum could quick hammer right now if they wanted to and pull through with the win.

also, Orci saying that no one has pushed for my lynch yet is a complete lie. I was pushed yesterday, and alot of people agreed that I should be pushed, who's to say that none of them were mafia?

also, looking at what he stated yesterday, it looks like he was setting me up to be lynched today so that his team could win. He wanted to leave me alone and sort me out later, doesn't push me despite thinking that I was likely scum regardless of my claim D1. My vote is likely to go there, but I don't want scum to quick-lynch if I am wrong about them.

also half of the the players today havn't even posted, and the day just started so we don't even know if the mafia team are even on and the fact that he's using this logic at this point is strange.

also, Beli alot of us believed that Thad's role didn't fit, Thad being a commuter outside of the dream-walkers didn't fit well with the dream-walkers, but it was there. You can't call me scum due to the fact that my role doesn't mesh with Thads because his didn't mesh with roles alot of other people had, yet he had it and he was town.

the fact that mafia possibly have a strong-man, and maybe other ways to bypass a protection role makes my role that much more likely to exist in this set-up.
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:49 pm

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unvote


still don't have a town read on you but I'll let things simmer.

We should mass claim.
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:44 am

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In post 1293, Ms Marangal wrote:also, Orci saying that no one has pushed for my lynch yet is a complete lie. I was pushed yesterday, and alot of people agreed that I should be pushed, who's to say that none of them were mafia?
why aren't you giving names

demon claims
also, looking at what he stated yesterday, it looks like he was setting me up to be lynched today so that his team could win. He wanted to leave me alone and sort me out later, doesn't push me despite thinking that I was likely scum regardless of my claim D1. My vote is likely to go there, but I don't want scum to quick-lynch if I am wrong about them.
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Nero Cain wrote:Orc, using the WWE game and not realizing that it was not this GCBC is still dumb as fuck.

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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:47 am

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In post 1293, Ms Marangal wrote:also half of the the players today havn't even posted, and the day just started so we don't even know if the mafia team are even on and the fact that he's using this logic at this point is strange.
Oh yeah

right

SOO, Nero, us, you, GCBC, Beli have posted

Demon and Iece have not

2/8=1/2 HMMMMMMMM

oh please you're flailing.
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:49 am

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and when the fuck did you have a town read on beli

LYNCHLYNCHLYNCH

i don't actually think there's a need for claims today since marangal is sort of y'know scum.
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:29 am

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Because I don't remember people, aside from Amrun and Demon, that actually pushed my lynch really, really Hard. Swords advocated for my lynch I think, and so did Thad and I'm pretty sure more people were pushing for me to get lynched

yeah, I remember hard-boiled and I remember you not trying to back down from the 1v1 either.

Scenario here is different than the Scenario there.

the 1/2 of the player base didn't post yet was an exaggeration, but my point is there.

I had a nullish read on beli for the majority of the game, and the fact that I have stronger scum reads make him possible town

Funny how you comment on how I got my town-read on Beli and not Nero when I had treated them both the same the entire game
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:14 am

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Vote Count 3.1


Ms Marangal 2
(Selkies, Belisarius)

Selkies 1
(GoodCop_BadCop)

Not Voting 5
(everyone else)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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