Mini 1451: A Memory of Light (Game Over)

[Selkies]

Given day 2, I think it's going to take a vote or two on Demon to summon him.

One of the reasons (quite possibly fallacious) I haven't wanted to go after Mara since her full claim late day 1 was because her mix of abilities matched ours: channeler, dreamwalker, and something else.

GCBC were you the third dreamwalker in that QT on night 1?

- f

[Iecerint]

The pattern of claims so far (GCBC null result on Selkies; MM protects deadAmrun) + likely mylo make me think a massclaim is what needs to happen.

I also like Demon going first. I'll take Selkies' advice.

VOTE: Demon

[Nero Cain]

GCBC-Why did you claim that Thad has a role like yours?

[Demon]

?

Massclaims a good idea but I'm not going first, have fun with that?

[Demon]

Pretty sure scum can dreamwalk and channeler is more flavor aligned than anything. Probably provided in a fakeclaim.

[Demon]

Scum is probs Selk/Mara/Beli

Lets all lynch from Selk/Mara.

Why not beli today.

[Selkies]

?

Massclaims a good idea but I'm not going first, have fun with that?

No. You need to claim now.

- f

[Selkies]

VOTE: Demon

- f

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Soo... everyone has posted.

No one has provided evidence that would explain why we couldn't watch Selkies last night. Selkies admits to being able to Dreamwalk, yet denies having done so and also isn't claiming who he/she redirected to until everyone else has claimed. Dreamwalking is literally the only explanation as to why we couldn't watch Selkies.

Orc's spasmatic voting looks like a combination of distraction and flailing.

I was planning on voting Mara at the beginning of the day because she is likely scum, especially seeing ThAd's role-flip, then came the reveal of Selkies which directly countered the information we were given from our role. With the consideration that it is likely MYLO, its much safer to lynch lying scum over someone who is likely scum.

GCBC were you the third dreamwalker in that QT on night 1?

Is this a loaded question? N1 we watched Amrun with no one targeting her. N2 we watched you and got a failed result.

GCBC-Why did you claim that Thad has a role like yours?

I know that someone tried to target me last night and failed.

Here he claims he watched himself. I have the watcher role and initially thought there was no way there are two watchers but decided to hold off on the counter-claim.

We should be lynching Selkies today.

~GC

[Selkies]

GCBC - WE targeted ThAd and failed.

And Demon needs to get back in here and claim.

- f

[Selkies]

Is this a loaded question? N1 we watched Amrun with no one targeting her. N2 we watched you and got a failed result.

Sorry, missed this question at my first read because I am kinda focused on Demon.

I asked because Mara's 3rd person on the n1 qt is still a question mark, and if someone I think is town was that 3rd person, then it impacts my read of her.

Orcinus thinks she scum and has a good case IMO. I'm still in data acquisition mode because I am coming up with more questions over time, and not as many answers as I'd hope for.

Orcinus also thinks you are scum because he sees this as a blatant fake claim at MYLO.

Maybe it is. But, I came away from day 2 with a town sense from BC (due to the meta exploration he initiated) and I trust a strong read more than a game state full of questions, so I'm not proceeding from that starting point today.

Will you me get a claim out of Demon?

[Selkies]

^^ will you

help

me get a claim out of Demon?

[Demon]

?

I already said I'm not going first.

This goes my way because 1) you're not going to risk lynching me in Mylo (you scumfucks out there know I'm town) and 2) your pressuring me is affecting me in exactly zero ways.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Hey demon, how about this? I'll go first, selkies can go second, and you go third. Sound good?

[GoodCop_BadCop]

I mean, that seems like a valid compromise to me.

[Selkies]

There's an interesing correlation between votes and replies with him.

Our vote won't be moving before he claims. It moving afterwards is contingent on what he claims.

[Demon]

See you in 2 days.

[Selkies]

We targeted you last night. Now, please claim.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Does anyone here have mod-meta on ceph? I'm starting to wonder if fakeclaims here are VI-type as in "ask the mod when you're ready for one, and then you get it in a few hours" as that would certainly explain what is going on with the repeated refusals to claim from demon.

[Demon]

LMAO you're either scum or autistic

This post is over the line. Tone it down.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Here's the thing, Demon. Maybe I am mental, because I just can't see town motivation to actively refuse to mass claim at this point.

A mass claim helps us sort this out, and with quite a few players already claimed, you're just holding us up from making any sort of progress at solving the puzzle.

Demon has made it clear he's not claiming outside of L-1. However, if he's town, he's inviting a quick hammer by acting as such. Which would be against a town wincon.

I'm not seeing town in Demon. Like at all.

Selkies, I will still re-vote you in a heartbeat if the massclaim does not provide a valid reason as to why my role would have failed on you, but...

VOTE: Demon

Also, Selkies, you claimed most recently, you can popcorn to the next person while we wait on Demon to get back here.

[Selkies]

If the reason you couldn't investigate me has a town origin, I have a guess who it would be. But, tbh I am not expecting a town origin.

Nero or Iece, one of you go next please. Order is not that important IMO.

[sword_of_omens]

sorry all... on my phone, but work emergency had me run out to a customers today...
just heading back now... Will read and do a full update tomorrow..

[Selkies]

Selkies, I will still re-vote you in a heartbeat if the massclaim does not provide a valid reason as to why my role would have failed on you, but...

see here

this is willing obliviousness by scum

if GCBC were actually town he would be considering "HMMM SCUM HAVE PRs"

but he's not considering that

so he's not town

*shrug*

[Selkies]

demon->iece->whoever.