Newbie 1387 - Game Over

[GuyInFreezer]

Half of them*

[waynegg]

209 thru 216 are from reread. What I quoted in QFT has content from others which pertains to my points, hence I QFT.

[waynegg]

So yeah, short read even without skimming and would value your take on it.

[GuyInFreezer]

209 I already commented.
Next one are you calling VL town or scum?

[waynegg]

Just adding something to the soft buddy you and Mara have brought to light at this point to build on.

[GuyInFreezer]

U just jelly.

[waynegg]

Umm...which means?

[GuyInFreezer]

You're just jealous.

[waynegg]

So, on deflecting to nearest wagon and then running scared?

[GuyInFreezer]

Huh?

Also, MP5 is town for his 133 and 137 (I think I got the post number correctly.)

[waynegg]

On Pope deflecting to MP5 when he was feeling pressure, his Ina ility to explain why he did it, and the abruptly hopping off MP5.

Also, isn't Frequency a virgin? His vote doesn't strike me as awesome but it sure doesn't strike me as scum.

Pedit. I have MP5 town as well.

[waynegg]

*inability

[waynegg]

133 comes off town, 136 is ambiguous, 137 is Pope.

[waynegg]

Interesting

[waynegg]

Yep. Very interesting indeed.

[Ms Marangal]

Ur such a spammer... I went to bed and now I'm hanging out with my friend. Dont expect me to do anything for a few houra. You guys can handle that right?

[waynegg]

Not spam at all. You don't find it interesting Mara?

[waynegg]

Look at Pope's play style before you guys replaced in. He was compelled to respond to every post directed at him. Immediately. Even when it was dreadfully slow. Even when he misinterpreted a couple of posts that weren't directed at him, but he thought were.

Now this morning you and GiF start posting. Pope comes along to show that he's actively lurking the thread still, and even though a few posts have been directed at him, nothing. A complete 180 in play style suggests outside advice. Since this is a Newbie and neighbors/masons don't exist that leaves exactly one group he could get that advice from. That also means one of you is probably the other scum if he does in fact flip scum.

That's interesting.

[GuyInFreezer]

Except for that scum QT is locked during the day and outside communications are strictly prohibited.
Inb4 "omg he knows about the QT he must be scumz!"

[waynegg]

Huh. Didn't know that. That's different, thanks!

While you're here GiF, think you could answer that question you left unanswered this morning?

[GuyInFreezer]

Which is?

[waynegg]

Pope deflecting to MP5 when he was feeling pressure, his inability to explain why he did it, and the abruptly hopping off MP5 after being questioned about it.

Also, isn't Frequency a virgin? His vote doesn't strike me as awesome but it sure doesn't strike me as scum.

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't quite see it as a deflection, but it is indeed flailing.

Re: Frequency - I refuse to answer.

[waynegg]

Hate to admit this, but wayne is Town
He's too dumb to be scum
And I know when people fake dumbness
I won a fucking game thanks to that
So yeah, wayne is Town
So let's vote MP5 and put him at L-1
VOTE: MP5

I'm not going to answer your puppy question
Deal with it

Not the deflection I'm talking about. I'm talking about deflecting your vote to the nearest wagon instead of explaining how you're not scum. Which of course you can't. Any more than you could answer the puppy question now. Because its too late. You're caught.

So, are you bussing MP5 or is someone else your scum partner? I'm thinking someone else, but I would like to hear it from you.

I'll have to just simply agree with wayne on this one. Something is very suspicious about deflecting to the wagon and then trying to call for someone to bring it to L-1. Why are you so eager to get someone so close to a lynch TIP? We have 11 days to come to a decision.

In addition I find it really really suspicious that TIP would dodge the question as though he still thinks that wayne is scum, even though he had unvoted him, indicating that he may now think otherwise.

VOTE: TIP

On the topic of the silly question, I have to say I am not really a dog person (Not really an any kind of pet person either) and couldn't name a breed for the life of me.

Hate to admit this, but wayne is Town
He's too dumb to be scum
And I know when people fake dumbness
I won a fucking game thanks to that
So yeah, wayne is Town
So let's vote MP5 and put him at L-1
VOTE: MP5

...so do you have a reason for voting MP5 or are you just bandwagoning?

We never know if we don't try, SuperMafiaMan. This game is all about risks. Join me.

I'm just going to have to simply say no on this offer. You started TIPping me off as odd recently.

Because I'm here to play Mafia, not saying what kind of puppy I am
Now unvote me

This demand for an unvote is very suspicious. At the time it was just one vote from wayne. Why did you turn aggressive towards a single vote when everyone else seems too timid to follow in wayne's footsteps or too distracted in pursuing MP5?

And then there is your very odd dodging of wayne's very simple question. In what way would it benefit you to dodge a silly question if you are town? If anything it brings in more communication and provides a nice bit of entertainment for everyone.

And then of course there is this:

Hate to admit this, but wayne is Town
He's too dumb to be scum
And I know when people fake dumbness
I won a fucking game thanks to that
So yeah, wayne is Town
So let's vote MP5 and put him at L-1
VOTE: MP5

It also seems very suspicious that you would want to hop on the nearest wagon and bring someone to L-1. Seems to me like you are trying to deflect the vote pressure off of you again like you did when you asked for wayne to unvote, but this time in an attempt to harm town more by either forcing a PR roleclaim so you know who to hit Night 1 or forcing him to claim Vanilla Townie (which

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could be the truth, but we as town have no way of telling resulting in a mislynch and therefore a lost day and an increased chance of hitting a PR night 1.

Another thing we must consider is that TIP might be distancing himself from his scum buddy in asking for this L-1. I find this highly unlikely but still possible.

Dem prods
UNVOTE: MP5
Unvoting because I lost interest in this wagon
VL, why the huh?

This is pretty much the whole conversation surround that specific topic. There were some side conversations, but this is it on his deflecting I believe.

1. He was getting plenty of pressure on him

2. He casts a vote to the nearest wagon at that time and immediately pushes to get MP5 to L-1

3. He can't give any logical reason why he voted other than to get a claim (more on that in a minute)

4. He unvotes because he "lost interest in this wagon"

That tells me he voted to deflect pressure off him for no reason other than to deflect attention from him. Then once he sees that isn't working out he unvotes for a vote he obviously had no conviction with in the first place. All of which is self motivated and very scummy.

[waynegg]

In case you wanted to read the whole case...