Newbie 1387 - Game Over

[waynegg]

I would also like to point out the obvious that seams to have escaped everyone. If Mara is scum, and Pope town, then she's playing against her wincon. Pope's been at L-1 for a while now and Mara could end that. I think she's hedging her vote because she knows its a hammer and how that could be viewed, so she's conflicted. Put her at L-1 and see how she reacts.

Starttransmission I had leaning scummy. His absence reads as not being able to figure out how to deal with the built in dissonance of being both IC and scum, but I hate to vote on I activity.

[GuyInFreezer]

Newb 1339.
I saved someone who was in L-1 as scum.
People said that I couldn't be scum because If I was scum I would be playing against wincon.
Saving weak town from lynch is very helping I scum because you get immense towncred and you have his support all the way.

[GuyInFreezer]

As scum*

[waynegg]

Ok GiF. And leaving a distractor would help scum with WIFOM as well. I'll sheep you. Now were even.

UNVOTE POPE

VOTE MISSES MERANGUE PIE

[waynegg]

Ouch. These new shoes are really tight. Lets see how this pair feels

UNVOTE:
VOTE: GiF

[GuyInFreezer]

If there was a joke involved, I didn't get it.

[GuyInFreezer]

Ok GiF. And leaving a distractor would help scum with WIFOM as well. I'll sheep you. Now were even.

UNVOTE POPE

VOTE MISSES MERANGUE PIE

I don't understand this post either.

[waynegg]

It wasn't a joke. I thought about sheeping you on Mara and then I thought better of it. D1 is where I do my best work, and sheeping someone would be me doubting myself. You're throwing out a bunch of WIFOM with the whole White Knight is my play regardless. I've pointed out you're walking a razor's edge. Instead of rebuffing that, you're basically just like so what. You completely disregarded what I've thrown up on Pope until I questioned you directly and repeatedly to the point you couldn't avoid it other than pope, your slot was the only other scum read I got. I'm trusting me and the way you have continued with your slot has only made it look worse.

Mara hasn't done anything that reads from a scum pov, and startransmission's inactivity could be for a million reasons.

[Voodoo Lady]

Yes, two games. hardly enough to have any strong meta read on you Voodoo. Your town/scum games aren't different enough for me to be able to pick up a Meta difference like TIP.

I don't know your playstyle as well as you think, and I don't think you know mine as well as you think.

no, I have never seen you direct queries in the form of large text, but that isn't the basis of my scum-read on you. It's the perceived reason to why I think you're doing it.

Four games together, I think. The two Polygamists and I think I've been in two other games with you.

Anyway, what is this "perceived reason" you're referring to?

[TheIrishPope]

I would also like to point out the obvious that seams to have escaped everyone. If Mara is scum, and Pope town, then she's playing against her wincon. Pope's been at L-1 for a while now and Mara could end that. I think she's hedging her vote because she knows its a hammer and how that could be viewed, so she's conflicted. Put her at L-1 and see how she reacts.

Nope
Scum wincon is to eliminate town people until they have the majority
That's why scum can hammer their scum partners
It's not against their wincon
It's a risky move, but they might pull it off
Also, if Mara hammers me and I flip Town (which I will), wouldn't all eyes be set at her? Yeah.

[waynegg]

No. Like I already explained to you, town is lynched most of the time D1. If we can't find scum, a non contributing claimed VT is much better than a shot in the dark. Mara hammering you wouldn't be the slightest bit suspicious. Scum hammering their partner D1 of a nine person is suicide.

[TheIrishPope]

Stop it with your silly statistics and theory
They mean NOTHING, alright?
And I've seen scum win while hammering their partner

[waynegg]

VL, who do you like between Pope and GiF?

Pedit you really need to reevaluate how to play this game. Your logic and total disregard of what people before you havedone to further this game, analyze this game, and develop better game play as a result is really pathetic. Now I just want you gone so scum can't hide in the WIFOM you're providing them. You're scum in my eyes, but I'll be thankful to be rid of you before the stupid infects others either way.

VOTE: Pope

[TheIrishPope]

These newbies
Again, it's not about individual people

[GuyInFreezer]

It wasn't a joke. I thought about sheeping you on Mara and then I thought better of it. D1 is where I do my best work, and sheeping someone would be me doubting myself. You're throwing out a bunch of WIFOM with the whole White Knight is my play regardless. I've pointed out you're walking a razor's edge. Instead of rebuffing that, you're basically just like so what. You completely disregarded what I've thrown up on Pope until I questioned you directly and repeatedly to the point you couldn't avoid it other than pope, your slot was the only other scum read I got. I'm trusting me and the way you have continued with your slot has only made it look worse.

Mara hasn't done anything that reads from a scum pov, and startransmission's inactivity could be for a million reasons.

Sure I implied that wk is my playstyle while explaining that wk is not necessarily scum to town.
But I never implied that I'm town because of wk nor planned to do so, otherwise I wouldn't even bother giving you my scumgame with wk.
My point was that wk is null tell.
It is your fault for entangling your mind by wrongly assuming my point.

[waynegg]

So yeah. WIFOM. About you. Provided by you. That does nothing to further scum hunting or town hunting to eliminate from scum pool. So, scum.

[TheIrishPope]

Anti-town =/= scum
Important lesson for the Newbies

[GuyInFreezer]

You talk about wifom and you failed to mention this. Why?

But we're both scum so don't get your hopes up.

[GuyInFreezer]

So yeah. WIFOM. About you. Provided by you. That does nothing to further scum hunting or town hunting to eliminate from scum pool. So, scum.

What you're doing here is basically this:

You say that you need to put pepper sause to make a cookie.
I correct you and say that you need a sugar instead of pepper sause.
You accuse me for using your sugar.

[waynegg]

You talk about wifom and you failed to mention this. Why?

But we're both scum so don't get your hopes up.

Because its so much more effective to lead you into doing it yourself :p

[waynegg]

So yeah. WIFOM. About you. Provided by you. That does nothing to further scum hunting or town hunting to eliminate from scum pool. So, scum.

What you're doing here is basically this:

You say that you need to put pepper sause to make a cookie.
I correct you and say that you need a sugar instead of pepper sause.
You accuse me for using your sugar.

I e had some damned good cookies made with Louisiana hot sauce...

[waynegg]

Anti-town =/= scum

Can you try a little harder please...?

[GuyInFreezer]

Anti-town =/= scum

Can you try a little harder please...?

TIP himself is an example.

[TheIrishPope]

Thank you GIF
GIF is an example of an experienced player
I am an example of Town who operates better at the start of D2

[waynegg]

Anti-town =/= scum

Can you try a little harder please...?

TIP himself is an example.

No. Pope's just a bad player. You aren't a bad player. Like your teamwork though.