I don't, I'm just reading your posts and everyone else's.
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Your play advocates a(n)
( ) insightful ( ) interesting ( ) uncommon (X) crazy
approach to finding scum. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from meta to meta.)
( ) Scum can use it as a blank check to hide.
(X) It is just as likely to get false positives.
( ) It violates the mod’s rules.
( ) It will get townies killed
(X) It requires scum to be stupid
( ) It does not account for the closed nature of the setup
( ) Your solution speculates at the setup
(X) The townbloc won’t put up with it
( ) Requires too much cooperation from scum
( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) The town cannot afford the risk.
(X) Scum will see it coming ten miles away
( ) Anyone could fake the result they want
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Rules expressly prohibiting it
(X) Lack of confirmed townies
( ) Timezones
( ) Ease of planning a response in advance assuming scum daychat
(X) Asshats
(X) Nobody trusts you
( ) Unpopularity of new gambits
(X) The existence of already successful scumhunting tactics
( ) Susceptibility of newbtown to fall for it as well
(X) Willingness of players to give you a chance
(X) People who hate your play
(X) Scum can make strong cases too
( ) Scum safeclaims given by mod
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) Flavor Gambits suck
(X) Why should we have to trust you and your methods?
(X) Incompatibility with the current player base
(X) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Revealing info does nothing but assist scum
( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
(X) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, asshole! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
house down!
Your play advocates a(n)
( ) insightful ( ) interesting ( ) uncommon (X) crazy
approach to finding scum. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from meta to meta.)
( ) Scum can use it as a blank check to hide.
(X) It is just as likely to get false positives.
( ) It violates the mod’s rules.
( ) It will get townies killed
(X) It requires scum to be stupid
( ) It does not account for the closed nature of the setup
( ) Your solution speculates at the setup
(X) The townbloc won’t put up with it
( ) Requires too much cooperation from scum
( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) The town cannot afford the risk.
(X) Scum will see it coming ten miles away
( ) Anyone could fake the result they want
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Rules expressly prohibiting it
(X) Lack of confirmed townies
( ) Timezones
( ) Ease of planning a response in advance assuming scum daychat
(X) Asshats
(X) Nobody trusts you
( ) Unpopularity of new gambits
(X) The existence of already successful scumhunting tactics
( ) Susceptibility of newbtown to fall for it as well
(X) Willingness of players to give you a chance
(X) People who hate your play
(X) Scum can make strong cases too
( ) Scum safeclaims given by mod
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) Flavor Gambits suck
(X) Why should we have to trust you and your methods?
(X) Incompatibility with the current player base
(X) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Revealing info does nothing but assist scum
( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
(X) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, asshole! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
house down!
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This is a compelling list, good sir. If I may present a rebuttal:
I don't care
I don't care
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We're in early D1, and nothing is happening, and me vote hopping isn't changing anything
And now I'm confirmed town, so that's good
And now I'm confirmed town, so that's good
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You evidently don't know what the term means.In post 1354, TheIrishPope wrote:We're in early D1, and nothing is happening, and me vote hopping isn't changing anything
Andnow I'm confirmed town, so that's good
Syryana and fferyllt: doing nothing but tunneling while giving virtually no other reads worth anything. Also, puppies.
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Don't be jelly
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You have picked up some town reads, and some players have even gone to bat for you. That does not equate to confirmed town.In post 1356, TheIrishPope wrote:Don't be jelly
Syryana and fferyllt: doing nothing but tunneling while giving virtually no other reads worth anything. Also, puppies.
If it were that simple, if it were only that simple, we would never have called you in about it, Rydra Wong. -- Samuel R. Delany,
If it were that simple, if it were only that simple, we would never have called you in about it, Rydra Wong. -- Samuel R. Delany,
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But will you guys lynch me? Nuh uh
Because you know I'm more likely to be Town this game
Because you know I'm more likely to be Town this game
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Never say never, especially in mafia.In post 1358, TheIrishPope wrote:But will you guys lynch me? Nuh uh
Because you know I'm more likely to be Town this game
Syryana and fferyllt: doing nothing but tunneling while giving virtually no other reads worth anything. Also, puppies.
If it were that simple, if it were only that simple, we would never have called you in about it, Rydra Wong. -- Samuel R. Delany,
If it were that simple, if it were only that simple, we would never have called you in about it, Rydra Wong. -- Samuel R. Delany,
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... but I didn't
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Calcifer has given me the scum shivers since I replaced in, but these most recent posts have sealed the deal:
That's top notch scum yakshit.
There's this little fake out about multiscum vs. singlescum, followed by sowing the seeds of a witch-hunt on a townie based on a multiscum theory (urgh what? you're right, it makes no sense whatsoever = scum). Either the game is singlescum and this is safe distancing (I doubt it) or Calcifer knows the game is multiscum and wants a stupid reason to go after a townie.In post 1327, Calcifer wrote:If this game turns out to be multiscum, we're speed-lynching Zdenek.In post 1321, Zdenek wrote:Maybe across scum teams. They probably aren't all buddies.
TMT is trying to get calcifer to do his dirty work and defend his buddy.
I mean - look at the above post, it's nothing but relativist scumtells. So-and-so MAY BE scum, but only if that-other-one is town, but partially leaning on Bozo-the-clown being SK.In post 1302, Calcifer wrote:So, Nacho recommended me not bothering to read the whole thread and to just get the gist of the happenings right now.
What I got from the last five pages is...not much. Metal Sonic looks town, Rift obviously looks town, too.
Selkiesorcinus might be scum (or not, now that I know it's him, but worth looking into further). Ankamius looks like scum to me, too.
Granted, both of these are partially reliant on BulbaFenix being scum. Though I certainly sorta lean that way, it's far from solid, regrettably.
Stubbs looks town, too.
Granted, still need 52 and 53, and this is weak-as-hell, but it's where I stand.
That's top notch scum yakshit.
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There is an error in this post.In post 1360, TheIrishPope wrote:... but I didn't
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Is that so? Enlighten me, kuriboh
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Calcifer is scum? Nah
And hey! Look!
I don't give a fuck if I lost points
And hey! Look!
I don't give a fuck if I lost points
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Your powers of perception are weak. Your credibility with the gods is correspondingly small.In post 1366, TheIrishPope wrote:Calcifer is scum? Nah
And hey! Look!
I don't give a fuck if I lost points
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yeah whatever can you play the game now
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Nero is scum. He is not posting walls to harass us to lynch 7 townies in a row. He is tunneling on just one player, and hasn't yet produced a fake guilty on that player. He is insincere and therefore scum.
The bowl of Alpha-Bits player is also scum but we all know that, there is however a curse on voting him that might lead to the earth being sucked into a wormhole straight into another dimension.
The bowl of Alpha-Bits player is also scum but we all know that, there is however a curse on voting him that might lead to the earth being sucked into a wormhole straight into another dimension.
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Are you sure you're not biased because he insulted you?
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The amount of insults proffered by Nero are ordained by a simple mathematical formula involving your total number of posts, your average number of words per post, the total times you address him directly or completely ignore him, and how many posts have been made by others between your most recent post, and his.
He is like the tides.
One cannot be offended by tides.
He is like the tides.
One cannot be offended by tides.
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I am not completely at ease with the idea that Calcifr is town, but so far he's hitting the right notes in terms of what I listen for.In post 1361, Serene wrote:Calcifer has given me the scum shivers since I replaced in, but these most recent posts have sealed the deal:
There's this little fake out about multiscum vs. singlescum, followed by sowing the seeds of a witch-hunt on a townie based on a multiscum theory (urgh what? you're right, it makes no sense whatsoever = scum). Either the game is singlescum and this is safe distancing (I doubt it) or Calcifer knows the game is multiscum and wants a stupid reason to go after a townie.In post 1327, Calcifer wrote:If this game turns out to be multiscum, we're speed-lynching Zdenek.In post 1321, Zdenek wrote:Maybe across scum teams. They probably aren't all buddies.
TMT is trying to get calcifer to do his dirty work and defend his buddy.
I mean - look at the above post, it's nothing but relativist scumtells. So-and-so MAY BE scum, but only if that-other-one is town, but partially leaning on Bozo-the-clown being SK.In post 1302, Calcifer wrote:So, Nacho recommended me not bothering to read the whole thread and to just get the gist of the happenings right now.
What I got from the last five pages is...not much. Metal Sonic looks town, Rift obviously looks town, too.
Selkiesorcinus might be scum (or not, now that I know it's him, but worth looking into further). Ankamius looks like scum to me, too.
Granted, both of these are partially reliant on BulbaFenix being scum. Though I certainly sorta lean that way, it's far from solid, regrettably.
Stubbs looks town, too.
Granted, still need 52 and 53, and this is weak-as-hell, but it's where I stand.
That's top notch scum yakshit.
Syryana and fferyllt: doing nothing but tunneling while giving virtually no other reads worth anything. Also, puppies.
If it were that simple, if it were only that simple, we would never have called you in about it, Rydra Wong. -- Samuel R. Delany,
If it were that simple, if it were only that simple, we would never have called you in about it, Rydra Wong. -- Samuel R. Delany,
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